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okay its only the inverse of manhattans transformation, not the inverse of his actual Being, or himself. even if it was the inverse of manhattan, it would cancel out manhattan, not jon himself, who would have already changed at the subatomic level so it would render the inverse useless. and again, he did not come back from complete obliveration, like the kind the silver surfer could generate. if the surfer was to completely destroy all of manhatans atoms, there would be nothing left to come back from. noone has ever tried to do this in the past,(destroy all his atom) therefor he has never came back from nothing. secondly: it cannot be entirley decribed as just clairvoyance. it is the way he perceives time as a whole. he sees past present and future as one and cannot change that. he cannot just turn off his perception and to say he can is the pinnacle of idiocrity. and that temporary lapse could be just what surfer needs to end the fight.

and im saying it is safe to assume they will.

these are comic book charectors. not scientific law. for simplicities sake, lets say tachyons do exist in this univese, because otherwise, i can say the surfers weakness "may or maynot exist" in the lik you posted, and i quote: "...weakness appears to be tachyons; a large burst of them can 'jam' or slow his ability to see the future to a large extent, as well as temporarily confusing his perception of the 'present time'..." manhattan will undoughtedly put up a fight, but regardless,so would the surfer. and the inverse thing was not a garantee to do anything against manhattan. it is not proven that manhattan was destroyed from the inverse, that was just one method of trying to defeat him. so you can not say or imply that he can come back from nothing

again, this is a scenario where if a charector has stated they could do something in confidence, they can.

this event does not take place in any particular universe, as if it would matter and he doesnt really disentegrate as much as "disperse the cells of the body in every outward direction, otherwise, only ashes would be left of the bodies. blood appears on the floor when he "disentegrates" people implying that its not true disentagration. jon sees past presnt and future at the same time. it is known that enough tachyons can oscure his vision of future, therefore obscure the past and present thereby distorting his perception of time itself and disorienting him. so yes, tachyons are a "big whoop" i do agree with you on that multiple copies are the only "real" advantage he has. but its not enough. and jon does not have more powers than surfer, as i posted a list of some of the things sufer can do. also, when jon was "destroyed in the wathcmen series, he came back a minute later, able to completley regeneate his body from as little as a few atoms. if he were to be completley desroyed (every atom) there would be nothing left to come back.nothing to regenerate. a feat the surfer could easily accomplish. but to say easily would be an overstatement on my part.

wow. drmanhattan also "stated" he can create life. and in the scenario, he has, so we can safely assume that if the charector has stated that he Can do somthing, then he can do so. (in the whole watchmen series jon never actually created life)

manhattan has only demonstrated killing normal HuMaNs with one shot, while surfer is a cosmic powered being. The surfer can kill humans with one shot too, he just chooses not to, as he is not fond of coldblood murder of a human. sufer can transmute existing element into tachyons to obsure his sight of the future, and then see into the future to see whats coming and change the outcome. Also he can time travel: a huge advantage if you ask me. something that manhatten cannot do. what good is teleportation if you know where hes going to be? plus, his teleportation is not instantaneous, so surfer will know if he is going to teleport. also, manhattan is made of matter, which the surfer can transmute into energy and absorb. comments? i welcome them...

as far as i know, he does not have a healing factor, but he is immune to any physical injury like u said, crazy durable, plus the forcefeilds around him so ..

true, i nearly forgot about terry.., but since they are human, wouldnt they be consumed by venom and carnage?

mr.sinister?

spidermen, only because they have spider powers and spidersense, and batman has no prep time at all so he may get *insensitivity'd*. and bats is unfamiliar with these badguys whereas spiderman can better fend for himselfs wat with the powers. id give it to bats if he had prep time, but he dont, and he dont know any of spidey villain weakness, not like he just gonna stumble across em. hell never beat venom. or carnage. doc ock will give him hell.so will scorpion. rhino prob easiest to beat cus hes dum as shxt.

true, she could block some...just not the ones that matter, like a scatter shot or full power special beam cannon

in an issue of fantastic four, johnny attcks surfer with flames, and he calmly says: "fire? as a weapon? i can understand that logic, but your heat is meaningless for one who has walked across the surface of suns" so he is more than just durable. the surfer does not need his board to acsess the power cosmic. if his board is completley destroyed, he can simply create another one, which has been done. and he and his board are linked. not only does surfer have more experience, but he has cosmic awareness, yet another advantage. here are a few of his powers: The Silver Surfer wields "the power cosmic", absorbing and manipulating the universe's ambient cosmic energies. He can augment his strength to incalculable levels, and is almost totally indestructible. He can navigate space, hyperspace and dimensional barriers, and can fly at near-limitless speeds on his board, entering hyperspace when he exceeds light speed. He has even proven capable of time travel on occasion. The Surfer does not require food, drink, air or sleep, sustained entirely by converting matter into energy. He is immune to temperature extremes and most radiation, and can survive in vacuum environments such as outer space and hyperspace. He can analyze and manipulate matter and energy, and restructure or animate matter at will, even transmuting elements. He can heal living beings (though he cannot raise the dead), and has proven capable of revitalizing or evolving organic life on a planet wide scale. He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions, fire energy blasts, form and manipulate energy constructs, manipulate gravity, absorb and discharge most forms of energy, and phase through solid matter. His senses enable him to detect objects and energies light years away, and to perceive matter and energy in subatomic detail; he can even see through time, and with concentration can achieve limited perception of past and future events in his general vicinity. The Surfer has demonstrated limited telepathic ability on occasion, and has proven able to influence human emotion and sensation. this is all him without the board.(exept obviously the hyperspace,lightspeed space flight part) The Surfer's board is composed of the same impervious, cosmic-powered silvery material as its master's skin, and is mentally linked to the Surfer; it moves in response to his thoughts, even when he is not in physical contact with it. The board is almost totally indestructible, but on those rare occasions where it has been damaged or destroyed, the Surfer has been able to repair or even re-create it. The Surfer can attack opponents remotely by directing the board against them, and the board is capable of absorbing and imprisoning other beings.

its a good story man, i got no clue who it is, heres a list of guesses: galactus death onslaught magneto daredevil daredevil kanye west daredevil s'all i got lol

it would be unfair for me to choose as i am unfamiliar with dante and vin power.

juggernauts strenghth comes from a magic gem of near limitless power. and the only way to remove his helmet is by physical brute hulk level strenth. at least in the comics anyway. we all know better than to go by cartoons and movies rite??

wow then no contest storm. there are literally a handful of ways she could win this. hands down super storm wins, althogh i dont know if its comfortable having 4 rubies crammed into your pocket. lol with all that power, you wouldnt even need storm. u could throw in a loser, like.. oh i dont know, daredevil

tough one.. the zombies, does that include ALL marvel supers?

Marvel rocks lol but dc also has some of my favorite (powerhouses and otherwise)

alot of their powers are the same, but the silver surfer has years of experience with his power and fought a large chunk of the marvel universe against people like the hulk and thor. i say they are very evenly matched, but manhattan never had exp fighting anyone with any type of power let alone power on a cosmic scale. based on this, the surfer wins the fight.

avengers would win because of scarlet witch. she has relity altering powers and can make it so that amazo was never even created. some would argue that amazo would copy this abilty, but if she created a clone of herswlf like shes done before in house of m, you cant copy a clone, the clone would distract him while she sneaks up n does her mojo. matter of fact, she doesnt even need to be near him to do it. or even in the same counrty. scarlet witch is powerful like that.

im biased towards kratos.

pheonix force alone would take them all down.

okay. blocking piccolos blasts with braclets? so what if i gave you a speacial unbreakable invulnerable Shoe and told you to defend yourself from the blast of a bomb with it. scoffs.

okay..sighs.. read some comics with juggernaught to understand his power. juggernauht is powered by the ruby of crytaoak(not spelled right) which gives him the power of a GOD. a god whose power is limitless strength.juggernaught could even beat up the hulk as shown in WWH. you cant just say city blocks will be smashed to rubble to indicate it was a hard foght battle. hands down the jugg would win. you are implying that two smart humans can beat up a GOD. the only way to remove jugernaughts helmet is by brute strenght, which cap and bat lack!