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  1. 1 hour ago, RiotGear said:

    Shan Yu effectively being another head of state, should have political/military options Mim doesn't. 

    An invasion of Arrendale or trying to force a marriage is going to cause Elsa to behave in way that is going to make it easy for her to go dark side.

    She may start with the best of intentions, but enough hard choices, concessions, moral compromises. Tend to change people. Heavy is the head that wears the crown and all that stuff.

    In other words the things that come with political manoeuvering and war may just break her resolve and cause her to ice age the country...again.

    Eh, I have a feeling that Elsa would effectively squash a potential invasion with her powers before it has much chance to get off the ground. Sure, there may be some causualties along the way, but Elsa would have warded the Huns off with the best of intentions. Besides, armies from the Dark Ages and before tended to be pretty superstitious and fearful of curses and the like, so the sight of Elsa conjuring up extreme cold would likely scare off a lot of the Huns as they start to march into Arendelle.

  2. 17 hours ago, Peypeypeypey said:

    Madam Mim isn't a vampire though, and Elsa isn't nocturnal.

    That's not even close to the point I was trying to make, lol. 

    My point is that, seeing the destructive potential in Elsa, and knowing how much she revels in seeing evil done, there's a good chance Mim would try to do whether it takes to try to sway Elsa, even if that includes reigning herself in. 

    Besides, being a fellow magic user, Mim can at least offer to mentor Elsa in better controlling her abilities. This is something Shan Yu can't do.

    2 hours ago, Pizzaguy2995 said:

    Sorry but in my opinion Shan Yu was a bloodthirsty brute who approached warfare like an anxiety teenager playing GTA: no strategy, no thinking ahead, he just wanted to have fun killing and pillaging until he was inevitable wasted. The guy sounds like he’s more unhinged then Madam Mim!

    Haven't seen Mulan in full, but from the glimpses I caught of Shan Yu in the film, I got this impression of him as well. I have played through Mulan's world in Kingdom Hearts II, though, and Shan Yu seemed to pretty much try the same thing with Heartless. 

    1 hour ago, Peypeypeypey said:

    ... but as is, I don't think either of them really deserves a vote

    I guess it's a good thing I've always been more focused on talking to the community at large for these Draft debates, then. 

  3. Pretty good set-up, Movie-Brat. And heh, Black Bolt's in the fracus now? What everyone else needs to do is get behind Blackagar and let him whisper/speak a few words. Not only should BB's voice just about wipe the field of Cybermen, it might even disrupt whatever portals the extras are coming through. 

    As for the match, I think the Foot Clan is in pretty big trouble. Karai and the Elites may hold out for awhile, but unless they come to their senses and join up with the good guys, the Cybermen will likely overwhelm them. 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Twogunkid said:

    Speculation and not something we've seen in the film. Considering she looses it at sunshine, I don't see her being able to mask her emotions very well.

    The solution for that would be simple: only approach Elsa at night or in otherwise darkened settings.

    Meanwhile, Shan's attempts at "manipulation" would likely amount to him trying to intimidate Elsa via physical force. That would not be wise to do with someone of her vast freezing abilities, especially with Yu's already-intimidating appearance. At the very least, Mim could disguise herself as something more approachable and maybe use some suggestive magic to sway Elsa.

  5. 56 minutes ago, Peypeypeypey said:

    First, she's called Mad. She's not known for reigning in her ecccentricity.

    More importantly though, Elsa is never conflicted about using her powers for good or for evil. She never thinks of using them for evil, She's just conflicted about hiding her powers vs. Not hiding them. She is very much a good person who just loses control. Mim's pure evil is a very bad manner to try to convince people to her side

    Again, I seriously doubt Mim's merely morphed into various creatures and people just for giggles or to kill things on the spot. It's probable she's also used her transformations and other magic to manipulate others at some point. Considering Mim is pure evil, she'd realize that manipulating others is one way to induce evil acts. 

  6. 37 minutes ago, Peypeypeypey said:

    They don't call her "Mad Madam Mim" because she's angry lol. She's off her rocker. She's not one to manipulate or trick, or slowly corrupt. She hates Merlin's use of magic and tries to kill him for it. Madam Mim isn't good for this challenge at all

    I'd say she has a good chance at this. Mim hates Merlin's magic because she sees him actively using it for good. Once she sees a much younger and less-experienced Elsa unsure of whether to use her powers for good or evil, Mim may want to try to nuture her talents to cause as much chaos and destruction as possible. Besides, someone that's apparently been using magic as long as Mim would surely have an idea of when to restrain her more ... eccentric ways for this task. 

     

  7. ^^Y'all trying so hard. :D 

    From what I've seen of Shan Yu, he's actually much more brutish than manipulative. The only people I've seen Yu convince to willingly do anything are his own Hun soldiers, and considering the Hun all seemed so like-mindedly thuggish in the film anyway, it likely wasn't a tough sell for him. 

    Meanwhile, I could see more manipulating potential in Mim. She has convinvcing turned herself into a beautiful maiden. Since Mim also loves to see evil and despair, I think she'd pretty motivated to take someone with Elsa's potentially destructive freezing capabilities under her wing. 

    With some restraint, Mim certainly has a shot to pull this off. In fact, it might make a good crossover event, like Disney likes to do every now and then. 

  8. 2 hours ago, Peypeypeypey said:

    Punisher's best argument would probably be scaling him to people like Wolverine and Spider-Man who he's fought evenly with and gotten the better of

    One difference here is that Punisher is quite familiar with Logan and Peter and prepares for them accordingly. He won't have that chance in this fight, and even if he factored in Midnigher's Battle Computer, it may not really matter if Frank did prepare.

  9. Consider Midnighter to be a something of a combo of Wolverine, Spider-Man, and Deathstroke. His healing factor compares favorably to Wolverine's, he hits harder than Wolvie or Slade (or Spider-Man in some instances), his Battle Computer outdoes the Spider-Sense in spades, and he's quicker than any of them in spurts.

    Midnighter could close the 50-yard gap between him and Frank before Frank could get off more than a few shots and use his much-superior speed and strength to take him out, or his Battle Computer could simply show him a way to take Punisher out before he could even get those shots off.

  10. If various versions of Sarah Connor can evade and take out cyborgs that can't be harmed by conventional firearms and have all manner of ways to seek out their targets (various types of vision, researching, etc.) she can definitely evade and take out less intelligent, more squishy creatures with fewer tools to work with for 24 hours.

  11. Eh, may as well give this a try ...

    The moment the fight starts, the Equalists could throw down some gas grenades to give themselves some cover and possibly disorient the Infantry troopers. While it's true that the troopers could also start the batlle trying to mow down the Equalists, they may not tag them all, giving the remaining Equalists opportunities to scatter and possibly ensnare some with their bolas and electrical discs (which they won't be dodging with nearly the ease that Tenzin did here). 

    Also, while the trooper may be trained combatants, I seriously doubt they'd be as quick and formidable as the Equalists can be up-close. 

    Note that Korra and Mako are very likely stronger, quicker, and better at melee than the average Infantry trooper. 

    Between their chi-blocking, bolas, and electrical gloves, I'm thinking the troopers would be in serious trouble if the Equalists manage to close the gap. 

  12. Another great set-up, Boratz. Had you started this a little earlier, it kinda looks like you could've made this into an expansive X-Mas arc. 

    As for the match, the only thing I could find relating to Echo's combat skill is mention of his inexperience, so he may not want to engage Hook up close. Echo's armor should probably protect him to an extent, though, and he may have a good shot of taking Hook down with his blaster. 

  13. 13 hours ago, RiotGear said:

    He may well just choke Achilles out. The Greek hero does seem to require oxygen.

    I seriously doubt Achilles could be choked out. I'd have to imagine that was one of many maneuvers warriors tried against him in combat in ancient times, but failed. 

    This should come down to Achilles' weak spot, and Frank shouldn't have too much problem figuring that out and attacking accordingly. 

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