Nesh
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Look, let's just leave it at this: you see ki as a power, I don't. We've differing perspecives, which froma certain point of veiew are right.
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A regular human can't master 127 martial arts either. Batman isn't on human levels either.
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Define power. Serious define what power means.
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It is an energyy wiith in every being abd you can learn to use it like learning you to tal or walk, I suppose those are powers now?
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IOt's not a power if eryone in the universe could do it, That makwes it a skill, something you learn.
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Wouldn't that make martial arts a power too? Yo have to learn it and it's not natural?
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That means using ki is a skill, you learn how to do it.
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The ki was already there. The abilty to fly is an application of the ki. Videl didn't suddenly gain ki when she learned how to fly. That's like saying I only gained legs when I leaned to move them.
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Those things flight, blast are rfered to as techniques thing yo can learn to do wit ki, they don't come with ki.
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I understand that it's a stomp, I said as much in my first post on this thread. However by merit of it OP which says simply "No powers, no prep." and the nature of it not being a power anymore than Batman's or martial arts and its benenefits coming from training and being a honed skill. That Goku is at full power and therefore does stomp..
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Really, last I checked you weren't Shocwave. Sockwave never said no pwers, ki isn't a power. H never said in blaxck and white that Goku is at peak human levels. That was your interpertation.
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It's not a poweer. A power implies that it's someting special that some group can't lear. Batman could learn to manipulate ki, so could Superman, Martian manhunter etc. Anyone could learn.
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Every living thing has ki, the ability to manpulate it is a skill both your ki levels and your manipulation are improved by training. Everyone in DBZ could theoretically use ki, just like everyone could use martial arts.
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Don't ask me but that's how it plays out do to the peremiters of the OP as ki isn't a power.
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Nowher in that post does it say that Goku has been taken down to Human levels it says, no power, no prep. Ki isn't a power, everyone has it and Goku trained to attian his high levels. The benefits spang from his training.
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Ki isn't a power, everyone as it. His training made him stronger and faster and yes it increased his ki levels but ki is not a power. You can restrict things lie ki blasts and flight and call them powers but the ki itself and its pysical benfits are a result of training just lie Bruces impossible martial arts skill.
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They already knew how to fight though. Krillin was a monk and Goku had training from Grandpa Gohan. So Roshi didn't need to tech them how to fight.
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How the hell did Bruce manage that? It takes years to master one style and Bruce is no older than Goku. Peak Human my ass. Tecnically Goku didn't actively manipulate i until he learned the Kamehameha and for a good while that was all he could do with it. So Goku hasn't always been reliant on ki manipulation.
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Everyone goes on and on about Batman knowing 127 martial arts, I actually see that as a disadvatage, There's no way you can learn so many and actually have time to master one. Goku however is a master of his style and was a proficent martial artist before he could even manipulate his ki to any significant or did you not watch the early sagas of dragonball? His skill isn't all reliant on i manipulation.
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Ki manipulation isn't a power, it's a skill, something anyone can learn with proper training like martial arts. Sure it makes you stronger and faster and able to take more damage but so does any sort of physical traing, which is how you train with ki anyway. Now transformations ar powers so Super saian and Oozaru are off limots but still Goku stomps.
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Katie exchanged glances with Vanilor as if to say "Are you hearing this too?" "That doesn't sound like the Kat I know and love..."
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"Kat, you can't fool me, now tell me what's going on or I'll have Vanilor fly you bac to the TARDIS and put you under the Doctor's watch."
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Hinata IIRC. *holds in pairing rant.*
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"Kat, what's wrong?" atie was visibly worried about her sister at the appearance of the outburst.
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"Looks like an Imperial weapons store. at and I will drop through the roof, Annabelle, Emerald, take the front, evveryone else to the back door." She would move to carry out her own instructions.
