RakaiThwei Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Which is basically the same thing as Scarface's so called lifting of 16 tons. It was done in game mechanics. I could present in so many ways how it's not... and how I've even had a friend of mine who has worked on video games as a student in school tell me that it's not... But you know what, I'm not... I'm done trying to convince people... So... how about we stop beating this dead horse with a stick.. You don't wanna believe, fine. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Nah, I said I'd never let it go. Its not a matter of belief after all, its a matter of what's real and what's not, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I agree with JP, if you're going to use the door feat, why wouldn't you use the scorpion feat? They both occur in game, so therefore, both are equally valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I agree with JP, if you're going to use the door feat, why wouldn't you use the scorpion feat? They both occur in game, so therefore, both are equally valid. I never said anything about the scorpion. Not once. Not ever. Hell, I'm not even in this debate. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I never said anything about the scorpion. Not once. Not ever. Hell, I'm not even in this debate. -Rakai'ThweiI got it the first three times Rakai, what makes you think I'm talking to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I got it the first three times Rakai, what makes you think I'm talking to you? Kinda hard to tell through text. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 There's a pretty big difference between something occuring inside a game and something occuring a game's cutscene. After all, if you follow force_echo's idea that they are the same, then obviously SPARTAN IIs have telekenesis, since all manner of vehicles are flipped without the use of hands! Game mechanics are sometimes limited by a game engine, game cutscenes sometimes aren't (some of them do use the game engine, like the ones in Halo, some don't, like say the ones in Final Fantasy games). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 There's a pretty big difference between something occuring inside a game and something occuring a game's cutscene. After all, if you follow force_echo's idea that they are the same, then obviously SPARTAN IIs have telekenesis, since all manner of vehicles are flipped without the use of hands! Game mechanics are sometimes limited by a game engine, game cutscenes sometimes aren't (some of them do use the game engine, like the ones in Halo, some don't, like say the ones in Final Fantasy games). I almost want to respond to that but at the same time, I'm tired of trying to present things. I almost want to try and say something but what's the point anymore? -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'm actually responding to force_echo's ridiculous statement. I've got no beef with you Rakai, you said you are out of the debate (because you admited not knowing about the Elites) and that's fine with me. I stay out of things I know nothing about too. Except right now, because it's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'm actually responding to force_echo's ridiculous statement. I've got no beef with you Rakai, you said you are out of the debate (because you admited not knowing about the Elites) and that's fine with me. I'm sorry. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 No need to be sorry man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 There's a pretty big difference between something occuring inside a game and something occuring a game's cutscene. After all, if you follow force_echo's idea that they are the same, then obviously SPARTAN IIs have telekenesis, since all manner of vehicles are flipped without the use of hands! Game mechanics are sometimes limited by a game engine, game cutscenes sometimes aren't (some of them do use the game engine, like the ones in Halo, some don't, like say the ones in Final Fantasy games).The door lifting feat didn't occur in a game cutscene you idiot. I'm simply saying that if the door lifting is counted, so can the tank flipping. You can either have both, or neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Blue Blur Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The door lifting feat didn't occur in a game cutscene you idiot. I'm simply saying that if the door lifting is counted, so can the tank flipping. You can either have both, or neither. Temper temper. You stated Spartans could flip a tank. Seeing as how that is game machanics if you count on you have to count the other. You proclaimed a game feat first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 The door lifting feat didn't occur in a game cutscene you idiot. I'm simply saying that if the door lifting is counted, so can the tank flipping. You can either have both, or neither. Ah, I had thought it was in a cutscene, but apperantly it's not, oh well. Can someone actually post the event in question then? That'd be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red Blue Blur Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Ah, I had thought it was in a cutscene, but apperantly it's not, oh well. Can someone actually post the event in question then? That'd be awesome.the tank flipping and door lifting appear only in game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranglehold-prime Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Stay tuned for my next Deadliest warrior match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bloody Freak Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Predators > Elites. Just saying. =P Both are pretty badass though. EDIT: I'm late, aren't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 No, Elites > Predators. Anyone could kill if they had a cloaking field, hiding tactics, and superior technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Anyone could kill if they had a cloaking field, hiding tactics, and superior technology. That's true.... BUT.... Dachande was one of the greatest warrior's alive who often de-activated his cloaking device when facing an opponent. And he won many battles, without his cloaking device. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bloody Freak Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 No, Elites > Predators. Anyone could kill if they had a cloaking field, hiding tactics, and superior technology.Funny, that describes the elites as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Funny, that describes the elites as well...Elites have cloaking fields, but they never use them. Elites have never used hiding tactics, they are soldiers, not hunters. Superior technology? Maybe. but not by much, as Master Cheif so plainly illustrated. At least they don't use plasma casters that blow up towers and smart discs that cut through anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Oooooooh boy... have we devolved into a franchise vs franchise debate now? ....I REALLY am staying out of this one now.... -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 That's true.... BUT.... Dachande was one of the greatest warrior's alive who often de-activated his cloaking device when facing an opponent. And he won many battles, without his cloaking device.Yet the VAST MAJORITY of their race decides to cloak themselves and hunt prey that cannot reasonably fight back. Not only that, but the VAST MAJORITY of Elites do not go into combat with the Crutch of a Cloak. Funny, that describes the elites as well...Not quite, Humans at the time were advanced enough to actually comprehend what they were fighting, as well, as having a significant technological edge over modern Humans. Those same modern Humans that Predators seem to favour for their Blatant Ease of Killing. As well, Elites go into battle without concealing their intentions, they're there to kill you, and there's no pussy footing around with hit and run tactics. Just face it, the fact that Elites aren't Dependent on Cloaks means that their Society is better suited for Combat. The lack of a Crutch like the Cloak in battle, separates the Wheat from the Chaff, allowing only the Strongest to survive all the wars that they fight. Besides, Energy Shields are something that make them just plane Better then Predators. By the reasoning of pretty much half the arguments, Elite Shields should be able to take Several hits from a Plasma Caster before going down. While Elite return fire could kill a Predator with as little as 1 or 2 hits. Elites will get FAR more opportunities to kill Predators as they have almost 10x the Rate of Fire with their guns as Predators have with their Plasma Casters. And the simple Fact that Elites have Dealt with Cloakers before, and have faced off against Many Different Alien Species, will mean that the Advantage to the Predators is more moot then it is against Humans who don't even believe in Aliens before being hunted by a Pred. Also, Bloody Freak, what is your reasoning behind: Predators > Elites. Just saying. =P Both are pretty badass though. EDIT: I'm late, aren't I?If you're just saying then Back it up. Maybe you missed some key point or something... Just saying A > B is not contributing anything to an argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yet the VAST MAJORITY of their race decides to cloak themselves and hunt prey that cannot reasonably fight back. You don't know that. I can tell you for a fact that you don't know that. That's like saying every Native American tribe uses the same hunting tools, the same hunting methods, and hunts after the same prey. Different clans, different hunters, different method of hunting, different rules of hunting prey. Granted, the ones we have seen in the films do that, but for the most part there are hunters out there that don't hunt in the same way the ones we have seen in the films. You cannot base a majority assumption based on the select FEW we have only seen in the movies. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ricrery Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Anyone could kill Any one who uses low kilojoule plasma weapons won't be killing a Yautja anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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