Darkseid vs Thanos

[Indolent]

He isn't destroying a Galaxy.

 

Stating and doing are two different things.

[The Void]

He isn't destroying a Galaxy.

 

Stating and doing are two different things.

 

 

I know that, and I know someone was going to say that

 

But still he could have.

 

Here is him destroying a galaxy.

 

 

 

I really do not need to post this, because marvel stated that Odin and Surtur are galaxy busters. Odin is the strongest skyfather.

[Guest sirmethos]

I read your link and Darkseid does hold back, but Thanos also holds back when he fights Silver Surfer or even powerful beings like Fallen one.

 

Thanos can also make people his slaves, he made Silver Surfer believe that he was dead.

 

 

ok, let's try and dissect a few of Thanos' high level feats that have been used in this thread(those unassisted by outside sources).

 

Thanos took a blast from Galactus: yes, but a blast fired with Absolutely No effort, and he wouldn't have survived a second one.

 

Thanos took a full blast from Odin: uh... no, he took a Blast from Odin, yes, but far from a full power blast. Odin was able to casually knock around Thanos and Silver Surfer at the same time, when they refused to back off, Odin knocked the Surfer down with a single blast, far from Full power.

 

Thanos takes on 'skyfathers' for a living: Ok, which Skyfathers has he actually gone up against aside from Odin(who casually knocked him around with no effort) ?

 

Thanos outsmarted the keepers of the Infinity Gems: i'll once again refer you to the link i posted before, if you don't grasp the concept, let me know and i'll try to explain it.

 

Thanos went into Galactus' mind: yea, when Galactus wasn't aware of him and wasn't actually doing anything to keep him out. as soon as Galactus actually noticed him, he was kicked out with absolutely no effort.

 

 

 

i'm still waiting for someone to post some feats for Thanos that are actually Feats.

 

as i already said, in terms of Powers and Skills, Darkseid is easily superior.

 

in terms of popularity Thanos easily wins, he has created more die hard fanboys than most other Marvel characters, i'm still waiting for Hyperion, the only one who is a more obvious copy of a DC character than Thanos, to get his own die hard fanboys.

[Indolent]

I do not know what to make of that scan. o.o

[Guest xman4life]

Why do people give thanos the LEAST amount of powers.

 

He has telepathy

Telekenisis

In the top three for intelligence in the UNIVERSE. .

Extreme duribility

Been able to regenerate from a skeleton

Immortality

Longevity

Energy manipulation

Invulverability

And does anyone list that he was entrusted with the reality gem(the most powerful one of them all)

And almost destroyed the UNIVERSE over 5 times. I'm sure darkseid has almost done this feat too. But thanos has done it quite frequently. More than one occasion. And it is listed that in the universe he is ON PAR with almost any cosmic entity you can name. Even galactus himself is on par with him but no real proof he's passed him.

[Guest sirmethos]

Why do people give thanos the LEAST amount of powers.

 

He has telepathy

Telekenisis

In the top three for intelligence in the UNIVERSE. .

Extreme duribility

Been able to regenerate from a skeleton

Immortality

Longevity

Energy manipulation

Invulverability

And does anyone list that he was entrusted with the reality gem(the most powerful one of them all)

And almost destroyed the UNIVERSE over 5 times. I'm sure darkseid has almost done this feat too. But thanos has done it quite frequently. More than one occasion. And it is listed that in the universe he is ON PAR with almost any cosmic entity you can name. Even galactus himself is on par with him but no real proof he's passed him.

 

 

here is the list of his powers that i posted(aside from the standard physical powers):

 

Energy Manipulation

Telepathy

Matter Manipulation

Teleportation

 

he also has Dimenionsional Teleportation

 

 

he does Not have Telekinesis.

 

he does Not have Invulnerability

 

Immortality also means Longlivety, why do you put the same thing twice?

 

the only reason he regenerated from being reduced to a Skeleton, was because he was incapable of dying. ie. same as immortality, why do you post the same thing several times?

 

Durability is one of the 'standard physical powers' that have already been mentioned.

 

 

so, the Actual list of Thanos' powers(aside from the standard physical powers):

 

Energy Manipulation

Matter Manipulation

Telepathy

Teleportation

Dimensional Teleportation

 

that's it.

 

 

the list of Darkseids powers(aside from the standard physical powers):

 

Omega Effect/Omega Sanction

Telepathy

Telekinesis

Matter Manipulation

Avatar Creation

Energy Manipulation

Size Manipulation(his own size)

Life Creation

Time Travel

Dimensional Teleportation

De-Evolution(the ability to de-evolve living beings)

 

that's it.

 

 

now that we have That over with, let's adress some of your other points.

 

being entrusted with the Reality Gem is not a power, nor a skill, thus it's irrelevant.

 

and, Thanos is not even Close to being on par with most Cosmic Entities, Galactus nearly killed him with No effort at all, if he had put even Minimal effort into his blast, Thanos would have been reduced to dust. Odin knocked him around with no effort at all(and the Silver Surfer at the same time).

 

 

as i have said several times, in terms of Powers and Skills, Darkseid is far superior to Thanos. unrestrained by Comic Mechanics, Thanos would get stomped and end up either dying, or becoming Darkseids newest slave.

 

the only reason Thanos ever gets a win against Darkseid, is because he has so many fanboys that refuse to believe Thanos can lose. in an actual fight, he wouldn't stand a chance.

[Guest xman4life]

Ok well on comic vine it stated telekenisis and said that he is on the same level as galactus as far as power and passed him in intellect so I don't know what else to say. On comic vine it said thay there is only like one person who may know more than him in the whole universe. Darkseid may have more powers but some powers negate others like devolving him. How do u devolve something who came from other godlike beings?

[Guest sirmethos]

Ok well on comic vine it stated telekenisis and said that he is on the same level as galactus as far as power and passed him in intellect so I don't know what else to say. On comic vine it said thay there is only like one person who may know more than him in the whole universe. Darkseid may have more powers but some powers negate others like devolving him. How do u devolve something who came from other godlike beings?

 

 

there are several errors on ComicVine, but since i'm currently about to go to bed, i'm not about to give you a list, if you want a more reliable online source, i suggest http://www.marvel.com

 

and Knowing a lot, doesn't make you intelligent.

 

also, Thanos didn't come from 'godlike beings', Thanos is an Eternal, the Eternals are evolutionary offshoots of the race native to the planet. the Eternals of Earth are evolutionary offshots of humanity, likewise, the Eternals of Titan(of which Thanos is one) are an evolutionary offshoot of another native race.

 

thus, like any other living being, Thanos could be de-evolved back to an amoeba or a bacteria.

 

as for being on the same level as Galactus... i really hope you're joking, 'cos otherwise i won't be able to take you seriously in the future.

 

 

Marvel has stated that Galactus has the most advanced intellect in the universe, bar none. Thanos doesn't even come close to being equal to that, on top of that, Galactus has more experience than literally Any being in the universe.

 

in terms of power, Thanos is less than a bacteria compared to Galactus, hell even Odin is just a bacteria in comparison to Galactus, and Thanos doesn't even come close to being equal to Odin.

[The Void]

ok, let's try and dissect a few of Thanos' high level feats that have been used in this thread(those unassisted by outside sources).

 

Thanos took a blast from Galactus: yes, but a blast fired with Absolutely No effort, and he wouldn't have survived a second one.

 

Thanos took a full blast from Odin: uh... no, he took a Blast from Odin, yes, but far from a full power blast. Odin was able to casually knock around Thanos and Silver Surfer at the same time, when they refused to back off, Odin knocked the Surfer down with a single blast, far from Full power.

 

Thanos takes on 'skyfathers' for a living: Ok, which Skyfathers has he actually gone up against aside from Odin(who casually knocked him around with no effort) ?

 

Thanos outsmarted the keepers of the Infinity Gems: i'll once again refer you to the link i posted before, if you don't grasp the concept, let me know and i'll try to explain it.

 

Thanos went into Galactus' mind: yea, when Galactus wasn't aware of him and wasn't actually doing anything to keep him out. as soon as Galactus actually noticed him, he was kicked out with absolutely no effort.

 

 

 

i'm still waiting for someone to post some feats for Thanos that are actually Feats.

 

as i already said, in terms of Powers and Skills, Darkseid is easily superior.

 

in terms of popularity Thanos easily wins, he has created more die hard fanboys than most other Marvel characters, i'm still waiting for Hyperion, the only one who is a more obvious copy of a DC character than Thanos, to get his own die hard fanboys.

 

 

Okay now you are getting of topic. And are you calling me a Thanos fanboy? If so I both characters, but I think seid is cooler. Okay back on topic.

 

Forget about Thanos shield taking a blast from Galactus(which Seid wouldnt survive). Lets talk about Thanos surviving a blast from Post Retconned beyonder, planet busting attacks, big blast from Kosmos and a blast from fallen one.

 

Atleast Thanos was able to breach his mind and Thanos mind powers are superior to Seids.

 

What about Thanos taking on Kosmos, taking a blast from Fallen one? What about him tricking Akhenaten who is more powerful then the source? What about him taking on most earth heros all at once? what about him mind tricking Mephisto who is a powerful hell lord?

 

What about current Darkseid who is a jobber getting outwitted by Batman? What about him getting out matched by Doomsday or supes? Thanos easily fairs well against powerhouses.

 

He beat Drax who can easily bust a planet with ease, warrior madness Thor who strength increases ten fold and he had the power gem, caption of the universe who is a skilled fighter and also had the power gem.

 

Also Darkseids energgy blast wont do anything aganst Thanos since he absorbs almost any enegry.

 

Thanos was said to absorb life force.

 

Thanos is superior in power,mind, and skill.

 

Thanos wont need to h2h, because he prefers to use his telepahy powers and enegy blast.

 

Seid is not getting past his shields and Thanos can react better then Seid, since he goes up against faster people.

[Guest sirmethos]

Okay now you are getting of topic. And are you calling me a Thanos fanboy? If so I both characters, but I think seid is cooler. Okay back on topic.

 

Forget about Thanos shield taking a blast from Galactus(which Seid wouldnt survive). Lets talk about Thanos surviving a blast from Post Retconned beyonder, planet busting attacks, big blast from Kosmos and a blast from fallen one.

 

Atleast Thanos was able to breach his mind and Thanos mind powers are superior to Seids.

 

What about Thanos taking on Kosmos, taking a blast from Fallen one? What about him tricking Akhenaten who is more powerful then the source? What about him taking on most earth heros all at once? what about him mind tricking Mephisto who is a powerful hell lord?

 

What about current Darkseid who is a jobber getting outwitted by Batman? What about him getting out matched by Doomsday or supes? Thanos easily fairs well against powerhouses.

 

He beat Drax who can easily bust a planet with ease, warrior madness Thor who strength increases ten fold and he had the power gem, caption of the universe who is a skilled fighter and also had the power gem.

 

Also Darkseids energgy blast wont do anything aganst Thanos since he absorbs almost any enegry.

 

Thanos was said to absorb life force.

 

Thanos is superior in power,mind, and skill.

 

Thanos wont need to h2h, because he prefers to use his telepahy powers and enegy blast.

 

Seid is not getting past his shields and Thanos can react better then Seid, since he goes up against faster people.

 

 

Thanos surviving a blast from Post-Retcon Beyonder: just like with a lot of other similar feats, surviving a 'blast', is not in itself particularly impressive. since we have no indication of which power level was used for the blast. it could be anywhere from 100% to 0.000001%

 

Thanos surviving planet busting attacks: you mean like Darkseid does everytime he gets punched by Superman? it's been stated that Superman generally doesn't hold back against Darkseid, and his full power punches are powerful enough to destroy the earth several times over.

 

Thanos surviving a big blast from Kosmos: again, we have no indication of the power level used

 

Thanos surviving a blast from the Fallen One: same as above

 

Thanos' mind powers are superior to Seids: uh... not so much, Darkseid is capable of connecting with any mind in the universe, and has at one point used it to enslave an entire planet with billions of people. their telepathic powers might be Equal, but Thanos is definitely not superior in That field.

 

Thanos taking on Kosmos: taking on a being with literally, no skills, no experience, and who was literally insane. yea, that's really impressive.

 

Thanos taking a blast from the Fallen One: didn't we already cover that one?

 

Thanos tricking Akhenaten who is more powerful then the source?: first of all, what does Power have to do with Tricking someone? secondly, more powerful than The Source? not so much, Akhenaten is a powerful being with Cosmic Powers. The Source is literally Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent. The Source is the Cosmic Conscience of the DC universe, even Galactus isn't equal to that.

 

Thanos tricking Mephisto: again, what does Power, have to do with Tricking anyone? Dr. Doom has tricked Mephisto, not a particularly impressive feat for someone who is claimed to be among the most intelligent in the universe.

 

Thanos beat Drax: yea, and later he was Killed by Drax. 'drax can easily bust a planet', you mean like Superman? or Martian Manhunter? or half the heroes in the DC universe?

 

What About Darkseid getting matched by Superman and Doomsday?: Darkseid vs. Superman, i'll refer you to this: http://www.electricferret.com/forum/index....showtopic=13111 Darkseid vs. Doomsday, try putting Thanos up against WWH, when he is not prepared for him. and let's see how well he does. when his telepathy and energy powers are suddenly useless and he is up against a being that physically outclasses him. infact, just to make it even. let's give WWH superspeed as well, then you're getting close to having a match similar to fighting Doomsday.

 

 

Thanos can react better then Seid, since he goes up against faster people.: uh... no, most of the people Darkseid goes up against can move at several times the speed of light. most of the people Thanos goes up against moves at 99.9% lightspeed at best. Silver Surfer for example, moves into Hyperspace once he passes the speed of light.

 

 

 

as for "are you calling me a Thanos fanboy?", i have not, at any time in this debate, called any specific person, a fanboy, and no, my comment about fanboys was not directed at anyone, it was more of a general statement to explain Thanos' popularity. but, you know how the saying goes "if you feel targeted, etc."

[comic_book_fan]

i think thanos would win but my knowledge is a bit dated.

[Guest Omega11]

People will throw in which version can beat Thanos, but I say that any Thanos version can beat Darkseid, even in Hero Clix Thanos is more powerful

 

You play Heroclix? So do I, in fact that Supernova Thanos is one of my favorite figures; I pulled him at the pre-release event(and he was my most wanted figure of the set), and then used him to win the event and get the promo Thanos.

 

I think it boils down to this: Squirrel Girl vs a flight of stairs. Really, who wins? Who can walk away victoriously and proudly say "I won that battle." No one. No one can say that.

 

True, but Squirrel Girl is well-known for being able to defeat incredibly powerful foes with ease, while that staircase is well-known for...being a normal staircase...

[Guest silversurfer092]

True, but Squirrel Girl is well-known for being able to defeat incredibly powerful foes with ease, while that staircase is well-known for...being a normal staircase...

 

 

True, but Squirrel Girl is known to be a joke character, much like Darkseid falling down the stairs were a joke, much like what I said was a joke, and none of the three were ever meant to be taken seriously.