WW Hulk Slugfest

[Guest xman4life]

True sbp is the most power being in dc(so what is monarch) but when hulk is already at his strongest carnation to date fighting someone that much faster would just piss him off more. And that stage not much damge was being done to him that he couldn't shrug off in seconds so I believe if modern superman was able to hang with him for a little while then I'm pretty damn sure ww hulk can also seeing that ww hulk is STRONGER than supes at that point.

So my math is modern supes as able to go toe to toe with sbp for a while. Hulk is greater in strength to modern supes at that level. So if supes can hang why not hulk?

Ww hulk> modern supes

Modern supes< sbp

Ww hulk<sbp

World breaker hulk=sbp.

[Guest sirmethos]

True sbp is the most power being in dc(so what is monarch) but when hulk is already at his strongest carnation to date fighting someone that much faster would just piss him off more. And that stage not much damge was being done to him that he couldn't shrug off in seconds so I believe if modern superman was able to hang with him for a little while then I'm pretty damn sure ww hulk can also seeing that ww hulk is STRONGER than supes at that point.

So my math is modern supes as able to go toe to toe with sbp for a while. Hulk is greater in strength to modern supes at that level. So if supes can hang why not hulk?

Ww hulk> modern supes

Modern supes< sbp

Ww hulk<sbp

World breaker hulk=sbp.

 

Not quite.

 

World Breaker < SBP

 

Both have potentially unlimited strength and SBP has a higher base level.

[Guest xman4life]

Not quite.

 

World Breaker < SBP

 

Both have potentially unlimited strength and SBP has a higher base level.

I mean really at that point what is the base of sbp or world breaker hulk. Even if his base is 50billion tons supes was able to go toe to toe so yeah I think he has a chance especailly if world war hulk is already greater than supes so if he is up ANOTHER level then nah I don't think its that easy I think that that makes them equal and the theory kind of proves that.

Hulk<supes

Maestro=(more or less)supes

World war hulk>supes

World breaker hulk>(x 10)supes

Wrold breaker hulk=sbp

 

Supes was able to hang with sbp for a while which leads me to believe he must be a max 3 times stronger than supes

So if ww hulk is stronger than supes then what is world breaker then? He has to be at max maybe 3 times stronger than supes also with potential to be higher. Let me know if my therory doesn't make sense because it seems pretty sound to me.(Not being funny because I honestly want to know if my therory is sound).

[Guest sirmethos]

I mean really at that point what is the base of sbp or world breaker hulk. Even if his base is 50billion tons supes was able to go toe to toe so yeah I think he has a chance especailly if world war hulk is already greater than supes so if he is up ANOTHER level then nah I don't think its that easy I think that that makes them equal and the theory kind of proves that.

Hulk<supes

Maestro=(more or less)supes

World war hulk>supes

World breaker hulk>(x 10)supes

Wrold breaker hulk=sbp

 

Supes was able to hang with sbp for a while which leads me to believe he must be a max 3 times stronger than supes

So if ww hulk is stronger than supes then what is world breaker then? He has to be at max maybe 3 times stronger than supes also with potential to be higher. Let me know if my therory doesn't make sense because it seems pretty sound to me.(Not being funny because I honestly want to know if my therory is sound).

 

Superboy-Prime is a lot more than 3 times stronger than standard Superman.

 

SBP is stated as being equal to Pre-Crisis Superman(as Base) and Pre-Crisis Superman was the one that juggled galaxies and sneezes away solar systems.

 

 

And Maestro is only about 2-3 times as strong as the regular Hulk.

[Guest Falcon]

With Monarch, he shrugged off Superboy Primes attacks. He got confident and Prime was able to rip off a concealment plate. The result was the destruction of an entire universe. So even if the Hulks does that he loses because he dies. Energy doesnt disappear. Energy can only be transfered. SO Monarch would still be alive but would have to gether his energy which could take a long time.

[Guest skadoosh]

Theres not weight in space, so supermans planet-(or whatever)moving feats are irrelevant. WWH is stronger, and would keep getting strong, so he would eventually beat superman.

[Guest sirmethos]

Theres not weight in space, so supermans planet-(or whatever)moving feats are irrelevant. WWH is stronger, and would keep getting strong, so he would eventually beat superman.

 

You seem to forget that Superman continually gets stronger as well.

 

And that, just like Hulk, Superman has no upper limit.

 

 

With a simple sun dip lasting only a few minutes, he approximately doubled his, already considerable, power and keeping his speed in mind, he could easily make it to the sun and back, in between punches.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

WWH beats Superman. Can Superman destroy a planet by walking!!!! No! Superman would give a good fight, but lose. And where does it say he can make it to the sun and back in-between punches?

[Guest bigballerju]

WWH beats Superman. Can Superman destroy a planet by walking!!!! No! Superman would give a good fight, but lose. And where does it say he can make it to the sun and back in-between punches?

 

Where does it say?

 

In almost every major fight in a Superman comic he has pulled that off.

 

Who can destroy a Earth just by walking?

 

Superman can be just as powerful as WW Hulk and even more if he sun dips.

[Guest Falcon]

Lets address Skadoosh first.

 

The Planet pulling feat would require an immense amount of power. Why? Because whether there is gravity or not, in order to move an object of that size it would require a force of equal or greater amount to move it from its orbit from around the sun. So in essence he moved the planets using strength. He had to exert enough force to displace the planets from there orbit.

 

Now on to thanosisawesome

 

Supes has never destroyed a planet by walking because unlike hulk he has control over his powers. On the other hand he has flown from Earth to Saturn, destroyed a moon close to Earth's size and returned in under 3 minutes. Also about the sun thing. As long as he is in the sun he is given more power. Also being able to move FTL Supes could travel back and forth multiple times between punches.

[Guest force_echo]

I repeat for what seems like the thousanth time that while planets don't have gravity in space, they have mass, so according to Newton's law, it would take a superior force to move the planet.

[Guest Falcon]

planets have a gravitational pull towards the sun. In order to move that object away you would have to exert a force greater than that of the gravitational pull by the sun on it. Depending on the size of the planet, depends on the amount of force required to move it. If the planets did not have gravity they would float freely through space. So to summarize.... Planets have gravity caused by the sun. The greater the size of the planet the greater the force required to move it. So while there is no gravity in space in general, their is gravity on the planets. With the size of the Sun it creates its own gravitational pull. This makes moving the planets require an immense amount of strength to move the planet out of its orbit. If planets had no mass in space then the Hiroshima A-Bomb would have knocked the planet out of Orbit and hurtling through space.

[Guest shellsbut]

Hulk wins slugfests plain and simple. that's his thing

[Guest Falcon]

Hulk wins slugfests plain and simple. that's his thing

Only problem is that your wrong. Like I stated before and no one seems to be able to deny. Superboy Prime and Monarch have more than enough power to putWWHulk to shame in a fist fight.

[Guest sirmethos]

There are plenty of people who are physically powerful enough to go toe to toe with WWH in a slugfest, even a long, drawn out fight.

[Guest Artemis Entreri]

There are plenty of people who are physically powerful enough to go toe to toe with WWH in a slugfest, even a long, drawn out fight.

 

Doesn't mean they'll win... Heck, look at Ben Grimm in the WWHulk comic. He actually gave Hulk his hardest fight in the comic. In a straight brawl hulk still wins.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

Well, If Supes can can in fact fly to the sun and back in between punches, then yeah, he beats WWH. There are tons of people out there that could beat WWH in a fist fight. Supes, Captain Atom, Thanos, possibly Darkseid, Black Adam

[Guest sirmethos]

Doesn't mean they'll win... Heck, look at Ben Grimm in the WWHulk comic. He actually gave Hulk his hardest fight in the comic. In a straight brawl hulk still wins.

 

Ben Grimm is physically weaker than the Hulk, plain and simple.

 

By "physically powerful enough to go toe to toe with WWH in a slugfest", I mean equal or superior to Hulk in terms of strength and durability, every step of the way.

 

 

Against someone like that, Hulk wouldn't win against most, simply because when he is not physically superior, he's really not that tough since he doesn't really have much in terms of skills.

[Guest Artemis Entreri]

Ben Grimm is physically weaker than the Hulk, plain and simple.

 

By "physically powerful enough to go toe to toe with WWH in a slugfest", I mean equal or superior to Hulk in terms of strength and durability, every step of the way.

 

 

Against someone like that, Hulk wouldn't win against most, simply because when he is not physically superior, he's really not that tough since he doesn't really have much in terms of skills.

 

Sorry, I disagree. Hulk's fought countless foes with base strength exceeding his... Gladiator, Armeggdon, Abomination, Thanos and many others. Hulk got Madder and Stronger as he evolves during every fight. You know this Sirmethos, surprised you have this as a theory!

[Guest sirmethos]

Sorry, I disagree. Hulk's fought countless foes with base strength exceeding his... Gladiator, Armeggdon, Abomination, Thanos and many others. Hulk got Madder and Stronger as he evolves during every fight. You know this Sirmethos, surprised you have this as a theory!

 

the keyword is 'Base Strength'. even if someone has a higher Base strength, Hulk eventually ends up getting stronger.

 

The characters i'm referring to, are characters that could keep up with Hulk's increasing strength, all the way.

 

 

Hulk has potentially Unlimited strength, thus, his strength and durability will keep increasing.

 

to take an example, Apocalypse, due to his powers, also has potentially Unlimited strength. Thus, he could simply increase his strength at the same rate as Hulk.

 

 

This isn't theory, this is simply a fact of their powers.

 

 

Thanos' base strength is far higher than Hulk's. but with a drawn out fight, Hulk would eventually become stronger and win the fight. Against someone like Apocalypse who can keep up with Hulk's increasing strength. Hulk can't win on being physically superior. Thus, the fight turns into a battle of Skill and that one, is a fight that Hulk loses in most cases. He's a brawler, not a particularly skilled fighter.