Galactic being brawl

[Guest bigballerju]

Well I know I voted for Prime.

 

But what 3 people voted for Thanos?

 

People have said Rune Thor and Monarch.

 

I said Prime because at full power and pissed off he rampaged through Universes.

 

He killed every hero and villian in mulitple Universes.

 

If Prime goes about it the way he did in 52 rather then cocky in Legion of Three Worlds he wins.

 

Its been shown in Infinity Crisis and 52 if Prime is pissed off as well at full power he is nearly unstoppable.

 

Not only that Prime almost never loses at brawls

 

Except against Kon El. (Which is ok since I like Kon El)

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Question how would Superboy Prime do against Odin? If I heard right Prime is only affected by Earth Prime Magic, so would that render Odnis attack useless (magic ones that is)?

[Guest bigballerju]

Question how would Superboy Prime do against Odin? If I heard right Prime is only affected by Earth Prime Magic, so would that render Odnis attack useless (magic ones that is)?

 

To be honest Prime is not affect by magic period if I am correct.

 

If Prime is at 100% and he has the suit he had in Infinite Crisis.

 

Prime stands a chance of defeating Odin in my view.

[Guest Falcon]

He tricked Champion because it amused him and it made for a more interesting story.

 

He could have easily teleported in while Champion was busy fighting against those armies, grabbed the gem, and teleported out again.

Thanos admits in the comic that without trickery he would physically be unable to take the gem from him.

[Guest bigballerju]

Yet 5 people voted for Thanos and he is winning.

 

I find that stupid when everyone has said Thanos would lose in a brawl between the guys

on this list.

[Guest sirmethos]

Yet 5 people voted for Thanos and he is winning.

 

I find that stupid when everyone has said Thanos would lose in a brawl between the guys

on this list.

 

That because there are a lot of Thanos fanboys.

 

But because they don't actually have any arguments to support Thanos winning, they just vote instead of joining the debate.

[Guest Falcon]

I personally think Monarch would win. He was toying with Prime and then Prime went crazy and Monarch simply underestimated how strong he had become after absorbing a guardians energy. He easily defeated multiple Supermen, WonderWomen, Jonn Jonzz, Flash, GL, and Lobo in a matter of minutes without breaking a sweat. All Prime managed to do was pry up a piece of armor and the result destroyed a universe. The key is that energy is never destroyed, it can only be transfered. So eventually he will be back when another suit can be formed.

[Guest Omega11]

Thanos admits in the comic that without trickery he would physically be unable to take the gem from him.

 

Where?

 

I did not find a mention of that anywhere.

 

Question how would Superboy Prime do against Odin? If I heard right Prime is only affected by Earth Prime Magic, so would that render Odnis attack useless (magic ones that is)?

 

1. He's not weak to magic, but magic can still affect him. This means he still has his invulnerability when targeted by magical attacks(unlike Superman), but still, his invulnerability is not completely limitless.

 

2. This extends to all magic(as far as I know) even Earth Prime magic.

 

This basically just means that Odin couldn't score an easy sort of Kryptoniteish win, he would actually have to overpower Prime, which I think it's possible he could do.

[Guest force_echo]

Lol, Thanos is tied for the lead!

[Guest bigballerju]

Magic does nothing to Prime.

 

One example is in Legion of Three Worlds when one of the Legion tried to use powerful magic

on him.

 

Prime laughed and killed her.

 

He then joked hocus pocus I made a Legion disappear.

 

LOL

[Guest Omega11]

Magic does nothing to Prime.

 

One example is in Legion of Three Worlds when one of the Legion tried to use powerful magic

on him.

 

This is because he has a very high level of invulnerability.

[Guest Falcon]

Where?

 

I did not find a mention of that anywhere.

 

After Champion nearly destroyed his force field in a couple of blows. He admits that in a pure strength battle he would lose. He also remarks that that is why he avoids a straight on fight with the Hulk as well. He then goes on to say that for all the strength the two posses they are dimwitted. Its all in Silver Surfer: Rebirth of Thanos when he confronts Champion.

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Not if it's a straight-up brawl. In this kind of fight he gets taken out pretty quickly. Maybe if there was Prep-Time he could get his hands on one of his Power-Up artifacts, but to be honest I still don't think he would win in that scenario.

The likes of Darkseid and Monarch could do better things with Prep-Time than Thanos.

 

 

 

what? I laugh at this, Thanos can pretty much do anything he wants. Darkseid gets taken out by Batman,

 

Thanos is just as powerful as Darkseid and is WAYYYYY smarter, I mean WAY.

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

That because there are a lot of Thanos fanboys.

 

But because they don't actually have any arguments to support Thanos winning, they just vote instead of joining the debate.

 

 

 

 

so you expect people to vote other wise jsut because? Thats more fanboyism than saying Thanos wins with no explanation.

 

 

Personally Darkseid is not on Thanos's level. his eye beams are cool, but how many times has a power said to be ubber and then someone weaker beats him?

Surfer has unlimited energy supply, but people beat him. Captain America has fighting 7 and still loses. etc.. If we took everything DC or Marvel said no one would exist, everyone would be killed off every issue.

[Guest Falcon]

so you expect people to vote other wise jsut because? Thats more fanboyism than saying Thanos wins with no explanation.

 

 

Personally Darkseid is not on Thanos's level. his eye beams are cool, but how many times has a power said to be ubber and then someone weaker beats him?

Surfer has unlimited energy supply, but people beat him. Captain America has fighting 7 and still loses. etc.. If we took everything DC or Marvel said no one would exist, everyone would be killed off every issue.

only problem with your logic is that it has none. There is nothing that Thanos has done or has the ability to do that Darkseid has either done better or has the ability to exceed Thanos in every way. Until Thanos can manipulate an entire 52 universes without anyone knowing, he has nothing on Darkseid. Thanos has no great feat of any kind without an artifact that Darkseid is not superior in.

[Guest sirmethos]

so you expect people to vote other wise jsut because? Thats more fanboyism than saying Thanos wins with no explanation.

 

 

Personally Darkseid is not on Thanos's level. his eye beams are cool, but how many times has a power said to be ubber and then someone weaker beats him?

Surfer has unlimited energy supply, but people beat him. Captain America has fighting 7 and still loses. etc.. If we took everything DC or Marvel said no one would exist, everyone would be killed off every issue.

 

When have I ever said, that I expected people to do Anything "just because" ?

 

Quite the contrary, I expect people to at least Attempt being objective.

 

 

There was a debate going, even before anyone had voted. If someone believes Thanos wins, then I would expect them to voice their opinion(that thanos wins) and give some actual Reason, for why he would win.

 

 

however, as I said, the main reason that Thanos has the most votes, yet no one that actually makes any Posts in favor of him, is because there are a lot of Thanos fanboys, and they have no arguments that actually support him winning.

 

 

As for "Personally Darkseid is not on Thanos's level.", their 'level' is not a matter of personal opinion. both of them have stated powers and capabilities and a long list of feats.

 

That Darkseid is, in terms of power and capabilities, superior to Thanos, is simply a matter of the facts.

 

Who is the more interesting character, or who is the 'better' character, now that is a completely subjective thing and a matter of personal opinion. In terms of who is more interesting, I can easily agree that Thanos is at least close to Darkseid's equal. But that is not what is up for debate.

 

 

I'll repeat: That Darkseid is, in terms of power and capabilities, superior to Thanos, is simply a matter of the facts.

 

 

If people are incapable of being objective, then they should stay away from debates.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

If people are incapable of being objective, then they should stay away from debates.

exactly, hey people stop letting your bias blind you, anything Thanos is capable of DS can do and more

[Guest bigballerju]

Here is the difference between Darkseid and Thanos.

 

Darkseid: Written bad. WTF was Final Crisis? Horrible

 

Thanos: Written good like a villian of his caliber should be.

[Guest Falcon]

Here is the difference between Darkseid and Thanos.

 

Darkseid: Written bad. WTF was Final Crisis? Horrible

 

Thanos: Written good like a villian of his caliber should be.

Thats an opinon. I personally like Final Crisis. It just showed what kind of mastermind Darkseid is. Thanos is a universal threat and Darkseid is a proven multiverse threat. (52 universe threat to be exact) Darksied even manipulated the Monitors that thought they could see any and everything.

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

When have I ever said, that I expected people to do Anything "just because" ?

 

Quite the contrary, I expect people to at least Attempt being objective.

 

 

There was a debate going, even before anyone had voted. If someone believes Thanos wins, then I would expect them to voice their opinion(that thanos wins) and give some actual Reason, for why he would win.

 

 

however, as I said, the main reason that Thanos has the most votes, yet no one that actually makes any Posts in favor of him, is because there are a lot of Thanos fanboys, and they have no arguments that actually support him winning.

 

 

As for "Personally Darkseid is not on Thanos's level.", their 'level' is not a matter of personal opinion. both of them have stated powers and capabilities and a long list of feats.

 

That Darkseid is, in terms of power and capabilities, superior to Thanos, is simply a matter of the facts.

 

Who is the more interesting character, or who is the 'better' character, now that is a completely subjective thing and a matter of personal opinion. In terms of who is more interesting, I can easily agree that Thanos is at least close to Darkseid's equal. But that is not what is up for debate.

 

 

I'll repeat: That Darkseid is, in terms of power and capabilities, superior to Thanos, is simply a matter of the facts.

 

 

If people are incapable of being objective, then they should stay away from debates.

 

 

 

haha I was not commenting on you personally, but was only referring to this but replied to you. I know that Thanos being "personally on a higher level" is not a reason to why, but from what I read, Darkseid is not on his level. Thanos is for sure smarter, able to hatch plans better, might not be "as" powerful" but his intelligence makes up for it.

 

Infinity War, Infinity Crusade, Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity Watch, read ALL of them, plus Thanos's Quest both 1 and 2. I am not speaking about just their writing, or drawings, I am speaking about powers, capabilities, and even their ability to look at with amazement. Darkseid just falls short, (down stairs actually) haha jk. anyway, this was not a diss to you, in fact I replied to you because I like your debates/arguments.

[Guest sirmethos]

haha I was not commenting on you personally, but was only referring to this but replied to you. I know that Thanos being "personally on a higher level" is not a reason to why, but from what I read, Darkseid is not on his level. Thanos is for sure smarter, able to hatch plans better, might not be "as" powerful" but his intelligence makes up for it.

 

Infinity War, Infinity Crusade, Infinity Gauntlet, Infinity Watch, read ALL of them, plus Thanos's Quest both 1 and 2. I am not speaking about just their writing, or drawings, I am speaking about powers, capabilities, and even their ability to look at with amazement. Darkseid just falls short, (down stairs actually) haha jk. anyway, this was not a diss to you, in fact I replied to you because I like your debates/arguments.

 

Whenever people bring up Darkseid falling down the stairs, I can't help bringing up the fact that Thanos got his arse kicked by Squirrel Girl.

 

 

I have read the Infinity Saga and Thanos' Quest.

 

But in terms of intelligence, the best Thanos has managed, is to outsmart the Grandmaster.

 

In comparison, Darkseid manipulated 52 universes and orchestrated the events that led up to the war between the Monarch and the Monitors. In terms of planning and intelligence, there is simply nothing Thanos has done that measures up to that.

 

And in terms of pure power, the only feats of Thanos', that measures up to Darkseid's high-end feats, were done with the use of various artifacts(inifity gems/gauntlet, heart of the universe, power orb, etc.).

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Whenever people bring up Darkseid falling down the stairs, I can't help bringing up the fact that Thanos got his arse kicked by Squirrel Girl.

 

 

I have read the Infinity Saga and Thanos' Quest.

I am sure the In-Betweener, Eternity and Galactus, along with Reed Richards, Doom etc. count as well. Plus he took something that was guarded by high end people.

 

But in terms of intelligence, the best Thanos has managed, is to outsmart the Grandmaster.

Thats all you got? I doubt that is true, I think Eternity, Galactus, Dr. Strange, Doom, Kang, would be considered more intelligent

 

In comparison, Darkseid manipulated 52 universes and orchestrated the events that led up to the war between the Monarch and the Monitors. In terms of planning and intelligence, there is simply nothing Thanos has done that measures up to that.

That is impressive, but Marvel has alternate universes too, Thanos could would have no problem doing the same thing if Marvel expressed alternate earths more, we have Ultimate etc, but rarely do they ever cross paths

 

And in terms of pure power, the only feats of Thanos', that measures up to Darkseid's high-end feats, were done with the use of various artifacts(inifity gems/gauntlet, heart of the universe, power orb, etc.).

 

not disputing that, but it is his intelligence mixed with his invulnerability that allows him to obtain those items. I mean why else would Doom not be able to get them, he def wants power

[Guest Falcon]

The problem of when he gained the infinity gems the first time is that he took them from beings who didnt even know they worked. He used bribery for the first gem. Outsmarted the idiot Champion for the second and then used those gems to take the third and then the three to take the forth and so on. Without the gems, Thanos has not shown him self to be on Darkseid level one time in his entire life without a power up of some sort.

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

The problem of when he gained the infinity gems the first time is that he took them from beings who didnt even know they worked. He used bribery for the first gem. Outsmarted the idiot Champion for the second and then used those gems to take the third and then the three to take the forth and so on. Without the gems, Thanos has not shown him self to be on Darkseid level one time in his entire life without a power up of some sort.

 

 

 

I know, to his defense, no one knew of them except maybe Death and other beings. Thanos "figured" it out, was able to get them, take over the Universe, and all with his own machinations of his mind. Really ask yourself this, how much time and effort was needed to hear of the Gems, know how to locate them, get them and take over the universe. He has Cosmic Beings watching the universe and he did it.

 

 

Especially if people say Darkseid is that much better, well then he should have no problems doing what he does, since Thanos is to some considered weaker, less intelligent, him doing what he did was even more impressing.

 

 

Thats like if you are 7'2" and dunking, not a big deal, but if you are 5'4" and are dunking, much more impressive right?

[Guest Falcon]

I know, to his defense, no one knew of them except maybe Death and other beings. Thanos "figured" it out, was able to get them, take over the Universe, and all with his own machinations of his mind. Really ask yourself this, how much time and effort was needed to hear of the Gems, know how to locate them, get them and take over the universe. He has Cosmic Beings watching the universe and he did it.

 

 

Especially if people say Darkseid is that much better, well then he should have no problems doing what he does, since Thanos is to some considered weaker, less intelligent, him doing what he did was even more impressing.

 

 

Thats like if you are 7'2" and dunking, not a big deal, but if you are 5'4" and are dunking, much more impressive right?

It would be impressive if the well of eternity or infinity well or whatever the well is called did not show him where they were, what the could do, and the best way to go about it. He had questions, he looked into the well, and then it gave him the answers.