2nd Generation Heroes Fight

[Guest xman4life]

Ok, just to make things more even for people, I'll list the powers of the DC team.

 

 

Wondergirl: 1000+ tons strength, Supersonic Speed, Extreme Durability, Flight.

 

Supergirl: 1000.000 tons strength, FTL, Extreme durability, Flight, Heat Vision(several million degrees), Superbreath(sub-arctic temperatures at hurricane strength wind), Super Senses.

 

Superboy: Same as above, + Tactile Telekinesis at 1000.000 tons.

 

Nightwing(Dick Grayson): Peak Human

 

TomCat: transforms into a Were-Panther.

 

Jade: Powers of a Green Lantern.

 

Starfire: Flight(FTL), Starbolts(energy bolts at the same temperature as the sun), Invulnerability, 1000+ tons strength.

 

Nightwing(Christopher Kent): 1000+ tons strength, Invulnerability, Heat Vision(enough to harm an adult kryptonian under a yellow sun), FTL speed, Tactile Telekinesis, Super Senses.

 

Cyborg: Body Transformation(Any combination of any elements), Shapeshifting(unlimited), 5 tons of strength, enhanced durability, Sub-Sonic superspeed, Built-in Sensor Systems, Built-In Weapons systems(laser and sonic).

 

Beast Boy: Can shapeshift into Any animal he can think of, even extinct animals or animals from other planets or dimensions, even hybrid forms, mixing parts of different animals. He can also increase or decrease the size of any form he takes.

 

Raven: Empathy, Empathic Negation(can remove the feelings of others), Empathic Healing, Telekinesis(roughly 3 tons), Astral Projection, Teleportation, Flight

 

Kid flash: Super Speed(FTL), Photographic Memory, SpeedForce Conduit, Bio-Fission(Can create clones of himself that obey his orders).

 

Ravager: Limited Pre-Cog, Astral Projection, Enhanced Strength, Speed, Agility, Durability, Reflexes, Senses, Stamina, Intelligence and regeneration.

 

Miss Martian: same as Martian Manhunter, but with less experience.

 

Robin(Damien Wayne): Peak Human.

 

Blue Beetle: Tracking System(can track anything that produces energy within several miles), Energy Manipulation(for the energy it stores), Energy Absorption, Antagonist Adaption(it adapts its attacks and defense to its opponents), Bleed Diving.

So even with the powers so marvel you think they won't win or for it to be close? What can anybody other than super girl or boy do to kenji? or hope with her teams powers? Thor girl can fight super girl and ultra girl can fight and is strong as well. Thor Girl is not to be waived off. Laylas ability to resurrect the dead along with Magik commanding a whole realm Marvels team can hold their own. Wiccan can literally make kryptonaite appear and that takes out both supes. and just so people don't know Cannonball is INVINCIBLE while in flight which they call Unstoppability (Impossible to stop). He literally can fly right through 90% of the DC team.lol Even the supes girl and boy. Cannonball can control his speed and height by will, able to withstand and redirect blows from GLADIATOR(Supes equal). He can use this blast-field for the following effects: to function as a personal shield or extending it to encompass others, to shape the field around another person to imprison them, or to absorb outside kinetic impact into his own energy supply, enabling him to increase the bludgeoning power of his blows or to create explosive shock waves upon impact! And speed who can make things explode

 

So I will list the weapons for Marvel. And again im saying it would be a good fight people keep saying DC wins off of superboy and girl.

 

Cannonball

Kenji

Hope

Speed

Thor Girl

Ultra Girl

Magik

Layla

Wiccan

Cho

Husk

M

X-23

[Guest sirmethos]

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"What can anybody other than super girl or boy do to kenji?"

 

Let's see. Wonder Girl, Miss Martian, Starfire, Kid Flash or Christopher Kent can hit him hard enough that he instantly goes *splat*. Starfire, Miss Martian, Jade, Christopher Kent or Blue Beetle can hit him with a blast of energy that instantly vaporizes him, Everyone I just mentioned can send him into space or into the sun, Miss Martian or Cyborg can make him explode from the inside. Just to mention a few of the things some of the DC'ers can do to him.

 

 

"Wiccan can literally make kryptonaite appear and that takes out both supes"

 

uh... not quite. He doesn't actually know that Kryptonite exists, which he would need to in order to actually make some of it appear.

 

 

"Cannonball can control his speed and height by will, able to withstand and redirect blows from GLADIATOR(Supes equal)."

 

yeah... but you're leaving something out. he didn't withstand "Blows", he was able to withstand and redirect ONE blow. And Cannonball himself said that he had been lucky to manage that. He further stated that if Gladiator had not lost his confidence at that point, he(cannonball) would have lost within the next few blows of the fight.

 

 

"Thor girl can fight super girl and ultra girl can fight and is strong as well. Thor Girl is not to be waived off."

 

Ok, let's take a look at the powers of those two, and compare them to some of the similar heavy hitters from the DC team.

 

Thor Girl: Strength(75 tons), Speed(sub-sonic, slower than sound), able to contol the weather(like thor), Flight(only with her hammer), Durability(low level superhuman). Combat skills: low

 

Ultra Girl: Strength(50-75 tons), Speed(sub-sonic, slower than sound), Healing Factor, Durability(low-level superhuman). Flight. Combat skills: low

 

Super Girl: Strength(1 million+ tons), Speed(FTL), Healing Factor, Durability(High-level invulnerability), Flight, Heat Vision(enough to hurt a grown Kryptonian under the Yellow Sun), Super Senses, Super Breath(Hurricane strength winds at sub-arctic temperatures). Combat skills: Highly trained.

 

 

Yea, you're right, Thor girl and Ultra girl could fight Supergirl. for about 3 seconds before they're left either dead or unconscious.

 

 

 

Bottom Line: with these line-ups, the DC team is simply too powerful, too skilled and too experienced for the Marvel team.

[Guest Falcon]

GLADIATOR(Supes equal).

 

 

I think youve lost your mind. Gladiator is a Superman rip off. Literally a rip off. Marvel could have at least given him an original name instead of Kallark. Gladiator is the punk rock version of Superman. Only problem is that if he fights someone of equal or stronger power he would begin to lose confidence as they just take his blows or continue to keep coming.

[Guest bigballerju]

Gladiator has beaten Quasar, Wonder Man, Juggernaut, Thor , and more.

 

He is Superman's equal.

[Guest sirmethos]

Gladiator has beaten Quasar, Wonder Man, Juggernaut, Thor , and more.

 

He is Superman's equal.

 

and Gladiator has been beaten by Cannonball.

 

No, he is Not Superman's equal.

[Guest bigballerju]

Look I think DC wins which I said.

 

But Gladiator is close to Superman's level as far as durability and strength.

 

Superman has lost to lesser foes so Gladiator losing to Cannonball means nothing.

[Guest sirmethos]

Gladiator's strength and durability rely on his confidence.

 

When Gladiator is fully confident that he can do something then, he can do it.

 

If he loses confidence, then he's little more than a normal human.

 

 

 

Cannonball defeated him by taking ONE of his hits, which caused him to lose confidence, then he simply knocked him down. Despite Cannonball himself saying to the X-men afterwards, that Gladiator would have defeated him if he had kept it up. This is why he is not equal to Superman.

[Guest bigballerju]

Gladiator's strength and durability rely on his confidence.

 

When Gladiator is fully confident that he can do something then, he can do it.

 

If he loses confidence, then he's little more than a normal human.

 

 

 

Cannonball defeated him by taking ONE of his hits, which caused him to lose confidence, then he simply knocked him down. Despite Cannonball himself saying to the X-men afterwards, that Gladiator would have defeated him if he had kept it up. This is why he is not equal to Superman.

 

 

Yea your right then.

 

Thats how he lost to Thor.

 

Thor and Quasar wouldn't stay down.

 

His confidence started to slip slowly and Thor defeated him.

[Guest Omega11]

Gladiator's strength and durability rely on his confidence.

 

When Gladiator is fully confident that he can do something then, he can do it.

 

If he loses confidence, then he's little more than a normal human.

 

 

 

Cannonball defeated him by taking ONE of his hits, which caused him to lose confidence, then he simply knocked him down. Despite Cannonball himself saying to the X-men afterwards, that Gladiator would have defeated him if he had kept it up. This is why he is not equal to Superman.

 

It's not as simple as that.

 

1. Cannonball completely stopped the blow if I remember correctly. Pretty much any top tier character would at least give a little when hit by such a blow.

 

2. Gladiator had no reason so suspect Cannonball would be capable of such a feat, whereas against another top tier character Gladiator would be more prepared for them to not be defeated by a single blow.

 

3. Generally speaking, Gladiator's extreme arrogance works in his favor as far as keeping his confidence at optimum levels.

[Guest sirmethos]

It's not as simple as that.

 

1. Cannonball completely stopped the blow if I remember correctly. Pretty much any top tier character would at least give a little when hit by such a blow.

 

2. Gladiator had no reason so suspect Cannonball would be capable of such a feat, whereas against another top tier character Gladiator would be more prepared for them to not be defeated by a single blow.

 

3. Generally speaking, Gladiator's extreme arrogance works in his favor as far as keeping his confidence at optimum levels.

 

All true points.

 

My point however, was that Gladiator, despite his arrogance, tends to start losing confidence almost the second it starts showing that he is not far superior to his opponent, as also shown by Bigballerju's own examples of Gladiator's fights with Thor and Quasar.

 

That fact, makes him less than an equal to Superman, whose willpower is one of his great strengths.

 

Gladiator's powers are equal to Superman's, or even greater if he is fully confident, but his arrogance alone makes him less than an equal to Superman.

 

Thor's powers are definitely equal to Superman's, but again, Thor is not Superman's equal.

 

Captain America is someone who might be said to be Close to Superman's equal as a Person, but his powers leave him far behind.

 

etc. etc.

 

 

But then again, Superman was the first real Superhero, he is THE example of everything good and moral, he is SUPERMAN. How could anyone claim to be his equal?