Guest skadoosh Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Don't think it's a cartoon yet, it comes from the comic Blame!. Basically, the City is a giant Dyson Sphere that went out of control and consumed the solar system (you could walk for years in one direction and not even leave one room: there is at least one room the size of Jupiter). The different floors of the City are blocked off by something called Megastructure, which is some material that is impervious to everything but GBE (which are some sort of gravity beam guns). The City is filled with cyborgs that can materialize out of the walls and floors of the City, can shred people to pieces with their hands, etc. If you ever go to SB.com, there are threads that say "The entire Tyranid forces from WH40K show up in the City, what happens?" and alot of the common responses are "They are lost, presumed eaten by locals". Even if Master Chief or similar could fight a Safeguard (which I doubt), he'd die from starvation or similar, as he could walk for years without finding another person, or any food source. Wow. That place sounds... f*ckin cool! And seriously surreal. Im gonna have to read this manga... I really dont see Chief surviving there, especially if the "entire Tyranid forces" are lost and eaten! The Tyranids are some of the nastiest, most dangerous aliens/armies i can think of, so thats bloody impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 But aren't some hive fleets the size of solar systems? I doubt it, if by "size of solar system" you mean "mass equal to a solar system" or "volume of a solar system". The City is a solid sphere in all directions and past at least Jupiter, (778 million km) has a volume of 1.9E27 km3. You could fit 1,395,998,242,692.76 Jupiters in the City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 He also wouldn't survive a day on a Supreme Commander or [ui]Total Annihilation[/i] battlefield. These are the settings where the basic soldier unit is a giant house sized machine with automatic railgun cannons that can be build in a few seconds out of energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the atom Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I doubt it, if by "size of solar system" you mean "mass equal to a solar system" or "volume of a solar system". The City is a solid sphere in all directions and past at least Jupiter, (778 million km) has a volume of 1.9E27 km3. You could fit 1,395,998,242,692.76 Jupiters in the City. I found a good pic of the scale of a hive fleet I doubt even one of those would get lost in a solar system sized structure no matter how dense it was, let alone all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I found a good pic of the scale of a hive fleet I doubt even one of those would get lost in a solar system sized structure no matter how dense it was, let alone all of them. Uh, that's all the Hive fleets, not one. Not only that, that's not their size, that's their paths of incursions into the galaxy. It's also not to scale, since if it was Hive Fleets would have their own gravity and disrupt star systems simply with their prescenes, which doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord_Of_Awesome Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I would love to see MC try to survive a day on Pandora. Or now that I think about it an apocalyptic future like in I am Legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I would love to see MC try to survive a day on Pandora. Or now that I think about it an apocalyptic future like in I am Legend. Cool ideas dude! I reckon Chief could survive on Pandora, depending on the guns he has. Most of the aliens there would be taken out by a few caps popped in their asses, and they dont have anything that could get through his shield or armor. The big rhino-aliens would be harder to kill, he may have to just run away or climb trees to avoid them, and the big panther-alien would be a b*tch to take down, but i think Chief could do it. The I Am Legend film was crap, and the Vampires were crap too, but the book is amazing, and the world and the Vampires are both more interesting and harsher. Id like to see Chief take on some Vamps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord_Of_Awesome Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Cool ideas dude! I reckon Chief could survive on Pandora, depending on the guns he has. Most of the aliens there would be taken out by a few caps popped in their asses, and they dont have anything that could get through his shield or armor. The big rhino-aliens would be harder to kill, he may have to just run away or climb trees to avoid them, and the big panther-alien would be a b*tch to take down, but i think Chief could do it. The I Am Legend film was crap, and the Vampires were crap too, but the book is amazing, and the world and the Vampires are both more interesting and harsher. Id like to see Chief take on some Vamps...I just used I am Legend as a reference to apocalyptic scenarios in general. I agree the book was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord_Of_Awesome Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I just used I am Legend as a reference to apocalyptic scenarios in general. I agree the book was better.If you want to see MC take on vampires, then about he take on the ones from Underworld? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 If you want to see MC take on vampires, then about he take on the ones from Underworld? Yeah, i was really disappointed with the bloody film. Anyways, the Underwolrd Vampires werent that hard to kill, but some of them, like Selene, were very skilled, so that could make an interesting fight... Dunno how Chief would kill her, i guess hed have to shoot her to bits, literally. But she could avoid a lot of his gunfire, and get in some sly hits of her own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shellsbut Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Yeah, after reading what under those trees, i scared for Chief! Whats Dxun dude? worst moon in the galaxy makes makes mopst places look like Disneyland http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dxun seriously bad place to be no matter who you are. here is a quote "The only advice I'll give you when you're in the jungle, shoot anything that moves. Then shoot the things that don't move, just to be sure." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 worst moon in the galaxy makes makes mopst places look like Disneyland "The only advice I'll give you when you're in the jungle, shoot anything that moves. Then shoot the things that don't move, just to be sure." Ill check it out. Sounds cool and pretty nasty for Chief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 worst moon in the galaxy makes makes mopst places look like Disneyland http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dxun seriously bad place to be no matter who you are. here is a quote "The only advice I'll give you when you're in the jungle, shoot anything that moves. Then shoot the things that don't move, just to be sure." I checked out the link you gave me and apparently the creatures on Dxun killed Mandalore the Indomitable, the then-current leader of the Mandalorians, and if they can kill him, one of the best, most skilled, advanced, and hardcore warriors in sci-fi history, then they can kill Chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The Princess Brides' "Fire Swamp". :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 The Princess Brides' "Fire Swamp". :mad: Hahaha good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest the atom Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Uh, that's all the Hive fleets, not one. Not only that, that's not their size, that's their paths of incursions into the galaxy. It's also not to scale, since if it was Hive Fleets would have their own gravity and disrupt star systems simply with their prescenes, which doesn't happen. It's not quite to scale but it give you an idea. An average hive fleet contain roughly 1.5 billion craft. All of the Tyranid swarms would easily fill up a space the size of a solar system (or at least enough of it to matter) if they all grouped together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 To everyone saying Xenomorph Prime... ....Where the hell did you get that name for the Xenomorph homeworld? Cause that's not the name of it, and that's a fanon name for the Xenomorph homeworld. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 To everyone saying Xenomorph Prime... ....Where the hell did you get that name for the Xenomorph homeworld? Cause that's not the name of it, and that's a fanon name for the Xenomorph homeworld. -Rakai'Thwei It's also the commonly acknowledged/accepted name for the Xenomorph homeworld. And when you say Xenomorph Prime, most people that know about the Alien/AvP franchise knows what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 It's not quite to scale but it give you an idea. An average hive fleet contain roughly 1.5 billion craft. All of the Tyranid swarms would easily fill up a space the size of a solar system (or at least enough of it to matter) if they all grouped together. I don't believe any of your numbers until you show some things that say the same. Lexicanum says: "Hive Fleets are massive locust-like Tyranid swarms, comprising billions of creatures including the actual bio-ships, living spacecraft used to cross interstellar space and the voids between galaxies." And the WH40K wiki says (under description): "Tyranid Hive Fleets consist of millions of biomechanical craft, each serving as host to an untold number of symbiotic organisms." Either way Hive Ships are described (second link) as "massive". If they are as massive as a Apocalypse-class Battleship with a lenght of 4km, a width of 2km and an assumed height of 2 km, they would have a volume of 16 km^3. And if we further assume that every single Tyranid bio-ship is a Hive ship with the same proportions, then a Hive fleet with a million Hive Ships with the same proportions as the abovementioned IoM ship would have a volume of 1.6E7 km3 (or 16,000,000 km3). The City, going by my past figures, has a volume of 1,900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 km3 (19 1.9E27 km3). 118,750,000,000,000,000,000 such Hive Fleets could fit inside the City. Hence the whole "lost, presumed eaten by locals". Even if we were to say that all the Hive Fleets were composed entirely out of Hive Ships that were perfect spheres with 100 km diameters, and were million ship fleets they'd have a volume of 523,598.33333 km3... The City could still hold 3,628,735,767,557,190 Hive Fleets. And just for the hell of it, say the Hive Fleet was composed of spherical ships with a diameter of 100 km, and was composed of a billion ships each. The City could still hold 3,628,735,767,557.190 Hive Fleets. The City is frickin' huge. By extension, I'm only counting the City going up to Jupiter. The Solar System, on the other hand, goes further out. So All the Hive Fleets in WH40K could sit in one Solar System, in one perfect sphere, filling out all of the volume without leaving any gaps of space between then, and the Solar System would not notice them at all. The Solar System is frickin' huge. "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 It's also the commonly acknowledged/accepted name for the Xenomorph homeworld. And when you say Xenomorph Prime, most people that know about the Alien/AvP franchise knows what you're talking about. Actually, that term is not used by the AVP fandom too often. As a matter of fact a lot of people from what I know, based on the forums I go, agree that the Xenomorphs don't even have a homeworld per se because they are creations of the Space Jockeys. The canonical term, as far as the novels go, would be Proteus planet. And Xenomorph Prime sounds like it came from that god-awful Alien Species Wiki or Xenopedia, neither of which I'd recommend as sources. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Holy shit, RakaiThwei's signature moves! I just noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Holy shit, RakaiThwei's signature moves! I just noticed. LMAO!! -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shellsbut Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 No way in hell anything from Halo could survive in the Time Tombs in the Hyperion novels. You could have a million Master Chief 's and The Shrike would kill them all in under a second. The Shrike is quite literally the fastest thing in all of fiction making the Silver Surfer look like he is standing still. I is not bound by the laws of physics and is so fast it can exist everywhere simultaneously. It cant be killed either. I wish more people read Dan Simmons' Hyperion series. The Hyperion reality is so cool. Hell in the Hyperion U people in phase suits can move at near light speed and dance around laser fire. Not finished the series yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 No way in hell anything from Halo could survive in the Time Tombs in the Hyperion novels. You could have a million Master Chief 's and The Shrike would kill them all in under a second. The Shrike is quite literally the fastest thing in all of fiction making the Silver Surfer look like he is standing still. I is not bound by the laws of physics and is so fast it can exist everywhere simultaneously. It cant be killed either. I wish more people read Dan Simmons' Hyperion series. The Hyperion reality is so cool. Hell in the Hyperion U people in phase suits can move at near light speed and dance around laser fire. Not finished the series yet. Sounds cool, ive heard of those books before, i shall look them up and maybe start reading em. And Chief does sound like hed have his work cut out for him in that realm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shellsbut Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Sounds cool, ive heard of those books before, i shall look them up and maybe start reading em. And Chief does sound like hed have his work cut out for him in that realm... No he wouldn't have his work cut out for him He would be dead a million times over in 1 second. He has absolutely zero chance lasting more then one thousandth of a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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