G4hardcore Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 yeah but that would never happen.Opinions hold little weight with me. I've presented facts thus far, do the same if you want to convince me the Thing would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Hulk wasn't powered down to my knowledge. He doesn't get up afterwards, least not immediately and doesn't kick Ben's ass. Also, encyclopedias aren't infallible, though to be fair this was an alternate universe(Ultimate and Marvel Zombies crossover)Well, aren't alternate universes different from mainstream?? For all we know, that Thing could be 3X stronger than 616's Thing. Note: For all we know. Unless this rumble is using alternaThing, I don't think that holds much weight here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Opinions hold little weight with me. I've presented facts thus far, do the same if you want to convince me the Thing would win.i have pretty much proven it i have done everthing short of going down to marvel and getting them to write a one shot comic sign and mail it to your house it should be there by Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well, aren't alternate universes different from mainstream?? For all we know, that Thing could be 3X stronger than 616's Thing. Note: For all we know. Unless this rumble is using alternaThing, I don't think that holds much weight here. He probably is stronger, the Hulk he just beat down was one who later on bites Silver Surfer's head off and devours Galactus. However, he also got punked by Ultimate Namor, who is only slightly stronger than classic. Make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 i have pretty much proven it i have done everthing short of going down to marvel and getting them to write a one shot comic sign and mail it to your house it should be there by Thursday.THANK YOU lol that actually made me laugh IRL. But if that's all you got, my vote holds. *extends hand for respectful handshake* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well, If Colossus is kicking Thing's ass, (lol), then we know who's going to win! Thing might not give up, but that just means he'll keep twitching when he is put down.ehh, I have seen many times where someone or a team of some sort was getting owned then managed to come back and win, it happens a lot actually. Still I think Colossus wins 6/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 THANK YOU lol that actually made me laugh IRL. But if that's all you got, my vote holds. *extends hand for respectful handshake*i have presented my case if that did not convince you then lets just agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Thing has never beat Thor. Both men have fought or defeated powerful foes so to base your vote off that really means nothing. Colossus hitting Juggernaut http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/...ggernaut102.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 i have presented my case if that did not convince you then lets just agree to disagree.Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega11 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I've always thought Colossus would win this fight. He's at least equal to the Thing in strength, he's more durable, has greater stamina, and has trained for years in the Danger Room with the X-Men. Meanwhile the Thing never seems to do any significant training, and the Fantastic Four as a whole are much more leisurely than the X-Men are since they are not fighting a war/fighting to prevent a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xman4life Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Colossus wins.The Thing has not fought as many battles as colossus has. FF are adventurers. X-Men are fighters. there is a big difference. Magneto used his powers to keep colossus down but he got up anyway and was able to punch him STILL. MAGNETO!!!!!!!!!!!! Colossus takes this im sorry. Thing is a brawler honestly because shatterstar was able to knock things ass out of the window with little effort. SHATTERSTAR beat him rather easily. Very easy. Colossus doesn't need to breath or eat in his metal form. oh yeah the thing has NEVER EVER EVER beaten Thor!!!!!!!! and as far as hulk They are NOT equal Hulk could and would kill him if he really wanted to. The issue with Thing is that he as tremendous heart which makes it seem like he's stronger than what he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Colossus wins.The Thing has not fought as many battles as colossus has. FF are adventurers. X-Men are fighters. there is a big difference. Magneto used his powers to keep colossus down but he got up anyway and was able to punch him STILL. MAGNETO!!!!!!!!!!!! Colossus takes this im sorry. Thing is a brawler honestly because shatterstar was able to knock things ass out of the window with little effort. SHATTERSTAR beat him rather easily. Very easy. Colossus doesn't need to breath or eat in his metal form. oh yeah the thing has NEVER EVER EVER beaten Thor!!!!!!!! and as far as hulk They are NOT equal Hulk could and would kill him if he really wanted to. The issue with Thing is that he as tremendous heart which makes it seem like he's stronger than what he is.i agree colossus would win if you go by only there showings in x-men titles but if you read more then just the x-men books the thing has been in way more battles he was a solder a wrestler and a boxer way before becoming the thing and despite occupation he has been battling cosmic beings since colossus was like 6 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 i agree colossus would win if you go by only there showings in x-men titles but if you read more then just the x-men books the thing has been in way more battles he was a solder a wrestler and a boxer way before becoming the thing and despite occupation he has been battling cosmic beings since colossus was like 6 years old.So, So, Sooo not true. Not even a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 So, So, Sooo not true. Not even a little.colossus was like 19 when he joined the x-men which was like 12 years after they were formed .the x-men were formed 2 years after the fantastic 4 was therefore 19 -14=5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 colossus was like 19 when he joined the x-men which was like 12 years after they were formed .the x-men were formed 2 years after the fantastic 4 was therefore 19 -14=5.Show me proof of this. Because even if it is true, your basically telling me that as soon as Ben turned into the Thing, he began his career by fighting cosmics right off the bat. I also feel the need to remind you that Ben never beats any cosmic characters. It's always Reed outsmarting them with his super brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 LOL oh my god the X-men were formed way before the Fantasic Four in the Marvel timeline. Going back to when it was just Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Angel, Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 LOL oh my god the X-men were formed way before the Fantasic Four in the Marvel timeline. Going back to when it was just Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Angel, Beast.lol no they were not the ff started in 1961 the x-men started in 1963.and even if marvel don't go by that jean has stated in the onslaught story line that the ff were first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 To be fair for the other side also, Juggernaut kicks Peter's ass pretty hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xman4life Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Show me proof of this. Because even if it is true, your basically telling me that as soon as Ben turned into the Thing, he began his career by fighting cosmics right off the bat. I also feel the need to remind you that Ben never beats any cosmic characters. It's always Reed outsmarting them with his super brain.TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thing fights creatures and monsters but not people. Colossus being with the x-men has fought COUNTLESS beings and people. X-Men are fighters ff are adventureers you can't compare the two. x-men fought for their lives ff fought because they stumbled upon stuff or ran into things. Colossus has had his power way before thing did so he has more experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thing fights creatures and monsters but not people. Colossus being with the x-men has fought COUNTLESS beings and people. X-Men are fighters ff are adventureers you can't compare the two. x-men fought for their lives ff fought because they stumbled upon stuff or ran into things. Colossus has had his power way before thing did so he has more experience.no colossus is not more experienced i have already addressed this at least 3 times .and the ff have the most powerful villains in comics . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 lol no they were not the ff started in 1961 the x-men started in 1963.and even if marvel don't go by that jean has stated in the onslaught story line that the ff were first. Wrong. The All-Winners Squad came before both in both publication timeline and in universe timeline, unless you mean just between the two of them. Then the X-Men would have technically been formed first in the in universe timeline, as I believe Scott and the rest were introduced to the Academy at much younger ages then when they show up as an official group. However, the Fantastic Four beat them in the publication timeline, but again, the All-Winners Squad beat them both in both timelines. Also, there is Weapon X, The Howling Commandos, and probably some others I missed in the in-universe timeline that I missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 and the ff have the most powerful villains in comics . Hahahahahaha, you have to be kidding. Hyperstorm, Dark Phoenix, Magneto, Xorn, Mister Sinister, Apocalypse, Juggernaut, etc. Do they not count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 Wrong. The All-Winners Squad came before both in both publication timeline and in universe timeline, unless you mean just between the two of them. Then the X-Men would have technically been formed first in the in universe timeline, as I believe Scott and the rest were introduced to the Academy at much younger ages then when they show up as an official group. However, the Fantastic Four beat them in the publication timeline, but again, the All-Winners Squad beat them both in both timelines. Also, there is Weapon X, The Howling Commandos, and probably some others I missed in the in-universe timeline that I missed.wrong about the x-men coming before the ff in universal timeline alphaflight came before the x-men and they were Canada's attempt at an avengers which was inspired by the fantastic 4 the government wanted it's own super powered team that it thought it could control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 wrong about the x-men coming before the ff in universal timeline alphaflight came before the x-men and they were Canada's attempt at an avengers which was inspired by the fantastic 4 the government wanted it's own super powered team that it thought it could control. Still leaves the others...oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_book_fan Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 where there is no chance of me winning this one anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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