Deathstroke VS Punisher

[Guest Falcon]

That's not surprising. You don't figure out a lot of things. He's gone against more experienced opponents, had more experience with metahumans, and regular humans, and more experience in varied combat situations.

False in all accounts

 

Batman trumps all "experienced" opponents Punisher has faced, Slade works with the Society and has fought the Titans and JLA single handidly, regular humans dont stand a chance (besides Bat Family) where as Castle still struggles against some, and Slade has more training and combat experience prior to facing the metas.

 

Its amazing how you keep making claims with no proof behind them. Also you are the only one supporting your claims. Shouldnt that be red flag number one? All of your claims revolve around opinion as where mine have been backed by facts.

 

Castle has never dealt with a threat like the Titans or JLA. Until he can actually provide a serious fight against a group like the X-Men or Avengers in 616 continuity he has nothing on Slade. In no category does Castle out do Slade. So in essence Castle loses on all accounts.

[Guest force_echo]

False in all accounts

 

Batman trumps all "experienced" opponents Punisher has faced, Slade works with the Society and has fought the Titans and JLA single handidly, regular humans dont stand a chance (besides Bat Family) where as Castle still struggles against some, and Slade has more training and combat experience prior to facing the metas.

 

Its amazing how you keep making claims with no proof behind them. Also you are the only one supporting your claims. Shouldnt that be red flag number one? All of your claims revolve around opinion as where mine have been backed by facts.

 

Castle has never dealt with a threat like the Titans or JLA. Until he can actually provide a serious fight against a group like the X-Men or Avengers in 616 continuity he has nothing on Slade. In no category does Castle out do Slade. So in essence Castle loses on all accounts.

For every Batman Slade's fought, Punishers fought a Captain America. "Regular Humans don't stand a chance" Bronze Tiger is peak human. Geoforce is so useless he might as well be. Tim Drake is. Cass Cain is. Slade's lost to all of the above. The only reason he holds his own against other similarly skilled people is because of his physical stats. Not his skill. Castle struggles because he dosen't have a healing factor, indestructable Promethium mesh, and an Energy Lance capable of punching through Starfire, yet with all that, Castle's feats are STILL comparable to DS'. And the fact is, he's got more "career" experience. Actually, after looking over Slade's wiki, it seems Castle has more war experience also. Slade served breifly in Korea, and then was stationed at garrison duty. He then served at Vietnam for a while. Frank Castle served as SPECIAL OPS, 3 full tours of frontline duty consisting of 4 years, was the ONLY survivor of the Vietcong's assault on Valley Forge Firebase, he was decorated with the Medal of Honor, the Navy Cross, 3 times the Silver Star and Bronze Stars, 4 times the Purple Heart, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and, to top it all off, he ran Special Black op training missions for Marine Recon Commandos in the upper New York State area. Yeah, Punisher's more experienced all around.

 

Yeah, I would like to see Slade go up against Ulik or Hulk, without his armor, Lance, or physical characteristics. He wouldn't last a second. Besides that, Punisher's fought a team of Spider-Man, Nightcrawler, Slim, and Wolverine at the same time. WITHOUT PIS. I like how you ignore the time he's been beaten by the Teen Titans, it goes the other way too. I also like how you're so quick to call out PIS, CIS, and "Comic Mechanics" on other threads, but you still use the Slade vs. JLA feat.

[Guest Falcon]

For every Batman Slade's fought, Punishers fought a Captain America. "Regular Humans don't stand a chance" Bronze Tiger is peak human. Geoforce is so useless he might as well be. Tim Drake is. Cass Cain is. Slade's lost to all of the above. The only reason he holds his own against other similarly skilled people is because of his physical stats. Not his skill. Castle struggles because he dosen't have a healing factor, indestructable Promethium mesh, and an Energy Lance capable of punching through Starfire, yet with all that, Castle's feats are STILL comparable to DS'. And the fact is, he's got more "career" experience. Actually, after looking over Slade's wiki, it seems Castle has more war experience also. Slade served breifly in Korea, and then was stationed at garrison duty. He then served at Vietnam for a while. Frank Castle served as SPECIAL OPS, 3 full tours of frontline duty consisting of 4 years, was the ONLY survivor of the Vietcong's assault on Valley Forge Firebase, he was decorated with the Medal of Honor, the Navy Cross, 3 times the Silver Star and Bronze Stars, 4 times the Purple Heart, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and, to top it all off, he ran Special Black op training missions for Marine Recon Commandos in the upper New York State area. Yeah, Punisher's more experienced all around.

 

Yeah, I would like to see Slade go up against Ulik or Hulk, without his armor, Lance, or physical characteristics. He wouldn't last a second. Besides that, Punisher's fought a team of Spider-Man, Nightcrawler, Slim, and Wolverine at the same time. WITHOUT PIS. I like how you ignore the time he's been beaten by the Teen Titans, it goes the other way too. I also like how you're so quick to call out PIS, CIS, and "Comic Mechanics" on other threads, but you still use the Slade vs. JLA feat.

Im not saying that him vs the JLA doesnt have PIS but since it happened, its credible and puts him leagues above Punisher. Your refering to the Darkseid vs Superman about the comic mechanics and it holds true. That is why Supes beats Darkseid, because Seid is the villian and Supes is the hero. Its the only thing that allows him to win.

 

Again your the only one supporting Castle because other know your wrong. They already gave their opinions and since you cant see past your favorites you refuse to except it. DS has Castle beat in every category and thats final. All others agree. Im done with your non sense. Unless to provide something credible Im just going to disregard your comments since most are obsurd and clearly in favor of Marvel. Look at the characters and not the companies.

[Guest force_echo]

Im not saying that him vs the JLA doesnt have PIS but since it happened, its credible and puts him leagues above Punisher. Your refering to the Darkseid vs Superman about the comic mechanics and it holds true. That is why Supes beats Darkseid, because Seid is the villian and Supes is the hero. Its the only thing that allows him to win.

 

Again your the only one supporting Castle because other know your wrong. They already gave their opinions and since you cant see past your favorites you refuse to except it. DS has Castle beat in every category and thats final. All others agree. Im done with your non sense. Unless to provide something credible Im just going to disregard your comments since most are obsurd and clearly in favor of Marvel. Look at the characters and not the companies.

Right. Get backed into a corner and give up. Seen it many times, "I'm done with your non sense" translates into "I can't counter any of the points you made".

 

You just admitted it was PIS, and then you said it was credible. PIS is NOT credible, make up your mind. And he lost that fight anyway. If DS vs. JLA is credible, then Supes vs. Darkseid is equally credible. Then you can;t refute Punisher vs. Ulik, Punisher vs. Hulk, or any other fights. Again, stop being double sided, its either both or neither, you can;t selectively choose points based on whether the debate is on your side or not.

[Guest Falcon]

Right. Get backed into a corner and give up. Seen it many times, "I'm done with your non sense" translates into "I can't counter any of the points you made".

 

You just admitted it was PIS, and then you said it was credible. PIS is NOT credible, make up your mind. And he lost that fight anyway. If DS vs. JLA is credible, then Supes vs. Darkseid is equally credible. Then you can;t refute Punisher vs. Ulik, Punisher vs. Hulk, or any other fights. Again, stop being double sided, its either both or neither, you can;t selectively choose points based on whether the debate is on your side or not.

 

.....again your and idiot

 

Im not backing down you are just stubborn, myself and others have proven you wrong a dozen times and you come back with the same thing. Im tired of repeating things that outclasses Castle and then you come back with something lesser and think it somehow proves your point. The discussion is overbecause it is about 7 to 1 in favor of DS. You lose.

[Guest force_echo]

.....again your and idiot

 

Im not backing down you are just stubborn, myself and others have proven you wrong a dozen times and you come back with the same thing. Im tired of repeating things that outclasses Castle and then you come back with something lesser and think it somehow proves your point. The discussion is overbecause it is about 7 to 1 in favor of DS. You lose.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard it all before. Come up with an argument to counter mine or don't waste my time.

[Guest Falcon]

Yeah, yeah, I've heard it all before. Come up with an argument to counter mine or don't waste my time.

ok... what Ive told you all along. Whether you decide to except it or not is your problem. Everyone accepts it but you.

 

Batman trumps all "experienced" opponents Punisher has faced, Slade works with the Society and has fought the Titans and JLA single handidly, regular humans dont stand a chance (besides Bat Family) where as Castle still struggles against some, and Slade has more training and combat experience prior to facing the metas.

 

Its amazing how you keep making claims with no proof behind them. Also you are the only one supporting your claims. Shouldnt that be red flag number one? All of your claims revolve around opinion as where mine have been backed by facts.

 

Castle has never dealt with a threat like the Titans or JLA. Until he can actually provide a serious fight against a group like the X-Men or Avengers in 616 continuity he has nothing on Slade. In no category does Castle out do Slade. So in essence Castle loses on all accounts.

 

Bigballerju By intellect I meant he can use up to 90% of his brain power which has made him a tactical genius and Deathstroke has more experience then Punisher. He also has strength, speed, stamina, reflexes, and more that put him way past Punisher. That includes his healing factor but is very limited as he cannot regrow limbs and much more which is why people fail to include Deathstroke can be killed quite easy. However Deathstroke cause of it has been around quite a while similar to Wolverine but not as long obviously

 

Sirmethos Main reason Deathstroke wins in 1on1 fights most of the time, is a mix of his skills and superior physical and mental capabilities.

 

There are definitely a lot of people who are more skilled than he is, but his skills are high-level enough, that even the skills of highly skilled people(like Batman or Lady Shiva) doesn't bridge the gap in physical and mental capabilities.

 

 

 

If you are fighting an opponent, who is stronger, faster, more durable, has faster reflexes, and above all, Thinks faster than you, it IS possible to beat them if your skills are sufficiently higher. But Deathstroke's skills, while lower than the really high-end martial artists, are high enough that their skills doesn't bridge that gap. I.e. their skills are not sufficiently higher.

 

 

Deathstroke's mental capabilities are either ignored or forgotten a lot of times, but it is his biggest strength.

 

also banblade explained four or five times and I just didnt feel like putting his 6 paragraphs that proved you wrong on here.

 

1) Skill comes from feats and facts. All of it points to DS.

 

2)DS is good at that too and actually 9 times better at it.

 

3) Punisher loses to anyone from Daredevils skill and up in a straight up fight with no prep.

 

4)And again DS beating the X-men, Teen Titans, or JLA collectively outshine any of Punisher's feats

 

5) Deathstroke took on Superboy, Robin, Nightwing, Beastboy, Kid Flash, Wonder Girl, Ravager, Cassasandra Cain, and others

OR Flash, Zatanna, Green Lantern, Atom, Black Canary, Hawkman, and Green Arrow (before they all dog pile him)

 

Deathsroke outclasses Castle in speed, ingenuity, intellect, strength, reflexes, stamina, preparation, healing, and strategizing. What does that leave Castle with, an extra eye?

 

 

You know the truth so stop playing favorites and accept it.

[Guest Imperius Rex]

1) Deathstoke, he's much stronger, faster, and more skilled then Punisher.

A1) Deathstroke defidently

A2) Punisher

2) Ehh, it could go either way, but I'm gonna say Deathstroke

3) Deathstroke again

4) Punisher

5) I say they both loose.

 

So it'd Deathstroke with 4 points, Punisher with 2, and 1 tie.

I agree here

[Guest force_echo]

ok... what Ive told you all along. Whether you decide to except it or not is your problem. Everyone accepts it but you.

 

Batman trumps all "experienced" opponents Punisher has faced, Slade works with the Society and has fought the Titans and JLA single handidly, regular humans dont stand a chance (besides Bat Family) where as Castle still struggles against some, and Slade has more training and combat experience prior to facing the metas.

 

Its amazing how you keep making claims with no proof behind them. Also you are the only one supporting your claims. Shouldnt that be red flag number one? All of your claims revolve around opinion as where mine have been backed by facts.

 

Castle has never dealt with a threat like the Titans or JLA. Until he can actually provide a serious fight against a group like the X-Men or Avengers in 616 continuity he has nothing on Slade. In no category does Castle out do Slade. So in essence Castle loses on all accounts.

 

 

 

 

also banblade explained four or five times and I just didnt feel like putting his 6 paragraphs that proved you wrong on here.

 

1) Skill comes from feats and facts. All of it points to DS.

 

2)DS is good at that too and actually 9 times better at it.

 

3) Punisher loses to anyone from Daredevils skill and up in a straight up fight with no prep.

 

4)And again DS beating the X-men, Teen Titans, or JLA collectively outshine any of Punisher's feats

 

5) Deathstroke took on Superboy, Robin, Nightwing, Beastboy, Kid Flash, Wonder Girl, Ravager, Cassasandra Cain, and others

OR Flash, Zatanna, Green Lantern, Atom, Black Canary, Hawkman, and Green Arrow (before they all dog pile him)

 

Deathsroke outclasses Castle in speed, ingenuity, intellect, strength, reflexes, stamina, preparation, healing, and strategizing. What does that leave Castle with, an extra eye?

 

 

You know the truth so stop playing favorites and accept it.

I've already proven the entire bolded section wrong. Why don't you actually respond to my argument instead of repeating yours over and over again. Because you can't. Plain. And. Simple. Again, prove me wrong or stop wasting my time.

 

1) No it dosen't. It all points to Punisher. DS gets beaten by human levels all the time (and Geoforce), while as Punisher can go up to Capt. America and Spider-Man, HULK and ULIK, WITHOUT the equipment DS has, and WITHOUT the enhanced human capability DS has. Punsiehr is more skilled. BY FAR.

 

2) Good at what? I assume you mean strategy. Have you ever read a Punisher comic? He takes out entire freaking armies of fully armed mob members with a KEvlar vest and a sniper rifle. Because he knows strategy. Deathstroke knows PIS.

 

3) Actually Punisher can stand up to DD/Captain America level with no prep, he has the skills to do so. Deathstroke dosen't, he relies on equip. and phys. to pull him a win.

 

4) Again, if you're using the X-Men feat, I'm using Punisher vs. MU and Punisher Kills MU. More feats there than what DS can pull off in a lifetime. You admitted yourself that DS vs. JLA was PIS. According to you, in an objective match, DS would get beaten hard by the JLA. For the fifth time now, the TT has beaten DS too. Hell, Tim Drake BY HIMSELF beat DS, forget the rest of the TT.

 

5) What does Punsiher outshine him in? Skills and experience.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Wolverine>Punisher. Wolverine=DS. IMO

[Guest force_echo]

Wolverine>Punisher. Wolverine=DS. IMO

Except Punisher has beaten Wolverine in cannon AND in Marvel vs. and in Marvel Kills.

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

regarding skill Punisher is the master. I will even go as far as to say that Castle is on par with Batman in skill and tech knowledge. Not to include the tech that Batman has invented, nor his 137 styles he mastered.

 

But Punisher has fought people w/o some armor that is unbreakable, and w/o healing powers, just a badass attitude and a badass way of doing things.

 

616 Punisher has done things that even Batman wouldn't be able to do. That is tag Spiderman, also beaten Logan in a fight, not by outsmarting him. (I have that issue at home in case you guys doubt me)

 

IF Punisher has done his homework, he could potentially blow up Deathstrokes apartment home haha

 

but he would know who he is for sure. Punisher in Civil War was shown to be great at syping, even was complimented by sneaking into Stark Towers( with Tony's own gadgets he stole)

 

Falcon and others are debating their opinions, but really guys these are all opinions. No one is wrong, unless someone says that Ironman can kill Odin or something.

 

But Falcon does raise a good point. Will/Can Punisher defeat the JL the way Deathstroke has? I say yes, since both have different strategies. So it wouldn't be the same outcome

[Guest force_echo]

But Falcon does raise a good point. Will/Can Punisher defeat the JL the way Deathstroke has?

For the last time. Deathstroke LOST. LOSSSSTTTTTTT, against the JLA. HE LOST.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

I've already proven the entire bolded section wrong. Why don't you actually respond to my argument instead of repeating yours over and over again. Because you can't. Plain. And. Simple. Again, prove me wrong or stop wasting my time.

 

1) No it dosen't. It all points to Punisher. DS gets beaten by human levels all the time (and Geoforce), while as Punisher can go up to Capt. America and Spider-Man, HULK and ULIK, WITHOUT the equipment DS has, and WITHOUT the enhanced human capability DS has. Punsiehr is more skilled. BY FAR.

 

2) Good at what? I assume you mean strategy. Have you ever read a Punisher comic? He takes out entire freaking armies of fully armed mob members with a KEvlar vest and a sniper rifle. Because he knows strategy. Deathstroke knows PIS.

 

3) Actually Punisher can stand up to DD/Captain America level with no prep, he has the skills to do so. Deathstroke dosen't, he relies on equip. and phys. to pull him a win.

 

4) Again, if you're using the X-Men feat, I'm using Punisher vs. MU and Punisher Kills MU. More feats there than what DS can pull off in a lifetime. You admitted yourself that DS vs. JLA was PIS. According to you, in an objective match, DS would get beaten hard by the JLA. For the fifth time now, the TT has beaten DS too. Hell, Tim Drake BY HIMSELF beat DS, forget the rest of the TT.

 

5) What does Punsiher outshine him in? Skills and experience.

 

What does it matter how DS stomps Castle, as long as it happens. So, I am saying Falcon is right, and DS wins. Superior skill, superior equipment, superior planning, and superior physical power. DS has this.

[Guest force_echo]

What does it matter how DS stomps Castle, as long as it happens. So, I am saying Falcon is right, and DS wins. Superior skill, superior equipment, superior planning, and superior physical power. DS has this.

Wins what? Look at my response to the thread. I had DS winning most of them, because, unlike Falcon, I can look past my fanboyism to recognize when he loses. I'm simply arguing for the fact that Punisher is much more SKILLED than Slade is.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

Wins what? Look at my response to the thread. I had DS winning most of them, because, unlike Falcon, I can look past my fanboyism to recognize when he loses. I'm simply arguing for the fact that Punisher is much more SKILLED than Slade is.

 

Oh, well in that case, Punisher trumps Slade in skill, easily. Slade wins a fight, but Punisher is far more skilled.

[Guest Falcon]

Wins what? Look at my response to the thread. I had DS winning most of them, because, unlike Falcon, I can look past my fanboyism to recognize when he loses. I'm simply arguing for the fact that Punisher is much more SKILLED than Slade is.

Nothing Punisher has done proves it plain and simple.

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

For the last time. Deathstroke LOST. LOSSSSTTTTTTT, against the JLA. HE LOST.

 

 

lol, Sorry I never read it, I will take it back then, but I will ask if you think Punisher will do better versus the JLA than DS?

 

I agree with you 100% that Punisher is the better skilled person. Strip DS's armor, healing power, and any other added powers and you have a well trained person. Take away Punishers oh wait he has no fancy armors, no fancy healing or any serums or what not, Slade would be a great army dude, but thats it.

 

this serum DC made was so that at any given time his powers can keep him fighting Batman and tagging Flash, but at others he is not as good. But Punisher has surprised everyone everytime he sees them. Marvel Zombies, Punisher was still killing. Punisher has battled every top fighter in Marvel. Face it in Marvel there are only a select few who have fighting rating of 7 and Frank has fought them all

[Guest thanosisawesome]

Nothing Punisher has done proves it plain and simple.

 

All the victories you have listed for DS were through Comic book mechanics, or planning. Punisher is far more skilled.

[Guest LoneWolf]

Yes, Punisher is very skilled and very deadly. But regardless, he can't keep up with someone who is as physically and mentally enhanced as Deathstroke. He has human limitations. Any contest involving any feat based on those attributes should go to Slade.

 

I mean I can make up a character who supposedly has been a Navy Seal and a Green Beret and SWAT and etc.. someone who has 10X human stats will beat them hands down in any fight.

 

EDIT: Guns, explosives and good tactics can be great equalizers... I suppose if Frank managed to conceal an IED reeeeeeally well he could take Slade down.

[Guest Falcon]

Nothing gives Punisher more skills. Castle is an ex navy seal. Deathstoke is an ex Ranger, skilled in wild animal hunting = to Kraven, and trained by some of the most skilled assassins in the world = Daredevil, Elecktra, Taskmaster, Cap, Ronin, Batman, Bronze Tiger, Nightwing, etc. all of which who are better skilled than Punisher.

 

In a straight H2H fight with no prep, DS wins due to being physically superior, in just about any other way he wins due to his skills and life long experinece seeing as he has about 20 years on Castle. So in other words Slade was in the military when Castle was born.

[Guest force_echo]

For every Batman Slade's fought, Punishers fought a Captain America. "Regular Humans don't stand a chance" Bronze Tiger is peak human. Geoforce is so useless he might as well be. Tim Drake is. Cass Cain is. Slade's lost to all of the above. The only reason he holds his own against other similarly skilled people is because of his physical stats. Not his skill. Castle struggles because he dosen't have a healing factor, indestructable Promethium mesh, and an Energy Lance capable of punching through Starfire, yet with all that, Castle's feats are STILL comparable to DS'. And the fact is, he's got more "career" experience. Actually, after looking over Slade's wiki, it seems Castle has more war experience also. Slade served breifly in Korea, and then was stationed at garrison duty. He then served at Vietnam for a while. Frank Castle served as SPECIAL OPS, 3 full tours of frontline duty consisting of 4 years, was the ONLY survivor of the Vietcong's assault on Valley Forge Firebase, he was decorated with the Medal of Honor, the Navy Cross, 3 times the Silver Star and Bronze Stars, 4 times the Purple Heart, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and, to top it all off, he ran Special Black op training missions for Marine Recon Commandos in the upper New York State area. Yeah, Punisher's more experienced all around.

 

Punisher not only has more skill, he has more experience, precomic AND Incomic. As far as war goes, Slade has NOTHING on Castle. His mediocre garrison duty cannot even hold a match up to the service record Castle has.

[Guest Falcon]

For every Batman Slade's fought, Punishers fought a Captain America. "Regular Humans don't stand a chance" Bronze Tiger is peak human. Geoforce is so useless he might as well be. Tim Drake is. Cass Cain is. Slade's lost to all of the above. The only reason he holds his own against other similarly skilled people is because of his physical stats. Not his skill. Castle struggles because he dosen't have a healing factor, indestructable Promethium mesh, and an Energy Lance capable of punching through Starfire, yet with all that, Castle's feats are STILL comparable to DS'. And the fact is, he's got more "career" experience. Actually, after looking over Slade's wiki, it seems Castle has more war experience also. Slade served breifly in Korea, and then was stationed at garrison duty. He then served at Vietnam for a while. Frank Castle served as SPECIAL OPS, 3 full tours of frontline duty consisting of 4 years, was the ONLY survivor of the Vietcong's assault on Valley Forge Firebase, he was decorated with the Medal of Honor, the Navy Cross, 3 times the Silver Star and Bronze Stars, 4 times the Purple Heart, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and, to top it all off, he ran Special Black op training missions for Marine Recon Commandos in the upper New York State area. Yeah, Punisher's more experienced all around.

 

Punisher not only has more skill, he has more experience, precomic AND Incomic. As far as war goes, Slade has NOTHING on Castle. His mediocre garrison duty cannot even hold a match up to the service record Castle has.

Geo Force is nearly as powerful as Wonder Woman and EVERYTHING you stated is a matter of opinion with no facts proving he is more skilled or has more experience.

More years in training with superior trainees equals greater skills, and 20 years of older than Castle gives him 18 years of experience above Castle.

 

So I'll take it that Slade is still sperior in every way until you prove something.

 

 

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t532260.html

 

learn a little ^

[Guest force_echo]

Geo Force is nearly as powerful as Wonder Woman and EVERYTHING you stated is a matter of opinion with no facts proving he is more skilled or has more experience.

More years in training with superior trainees equals greater skills, and 20 years of older than Castle gives him 18 years of experience above Castle.

 

So I'll take it that Slade is still sperior in every way until you prove something.

 

 

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t532260.html

 

learn a little ^

Sorry, you can avoid it all you want, but everything I said were facts. The facts I spit out about Punisher and DS can be found on their respective Dc and Marvel Wikias, unlike you, who just goes, "D00d, thR wre N00 Fcts iz Tht!?" and then go on to spew exactly what you accuse me of, all opinion and no fact. You're the one who can't debate for shit. Ask any soldier in the entire world, front-line combat duty (Castle) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> garrison pukes (Slade). Give me examples of this "Greater Training". Where are Slade's combat decorations and feats precomic? Because Castle's are there in spades, and Slade has jack-shit. 2 years of fighting >>>> 20 years of sittng on your ass.

 

Unlike you, I actually read comics. I prefer them over respect threads.

[Guest Falcon]

Sorry, you can avoid it all you want, but everything I said were facts. The facts I spit out about Punisher and DS can be found on their respective Dc and Marvel Wikias, unlike you, who just goes, "D00d, thR wre N00 Fcts iz Tht!?" and then go on to spew exactly what you accuse me of, all opinion and no fact. You're the one who can't debate for shit. Ask any soldier in the entire world, front-line combat duty (Castle) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> garrison pukes (Slade). Give me examples of this "Greater Training". Where are Slade's combat decorations and feats precomic? Because Castle's are there in spades, and Slade has jack-shit. 2 years of fighting >>>> 20 years of sittng on your ass.

 

Unlike you, I actually read comics. I prefer them over respect threads.

I used the thread to provide you with the scans that you obvioulsy didnt take time to look at. Slade was in the army roughly 18 to 20 years before Punisher, this gives him about 19 years more of combat experience and training. Then he was augmented during that time. After leaving the army he became the worlds best big game hunter = to Kraven. After that he traveled the world and learned H2H combat >= Batman, Nightwing, Bronze Tiger, etc. Also add in all the other types of training with poisons, firearms, and weapons he learned. Castle would just now be entering the army when Slade began training with assassins. Navy seal are highly trained, I'll give you that but as a top assassin Slade performs things solo that it would have taken Castles whole team to accomplish. Nothing you have shown proves Castle is superior to Slade in any degree.

 

Talking about medals and commendations doesnt mean anything because Slade was discharged because he didnt follow orders and went rogue killing almost an entire complex for hurting his family.

 

Deathstroke is still proven superior. You can keep argueing but you'll never convince me or anyone else who actually knows both characters.