Guest force_echo Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I used the thread to provide you with the scans that you obvioulsy didnt take time to look at. Slade was in the army roughly 18 to 20 years before Punisher, this gives him about 19 years more of combat experience and training. Then he was augmented during that time. After leaving the army he became the worlds best big game hunter = to Kraven. After that he traveled the world and learned H2H combat >= Batman, Nightwing, Bronze Tiger, etc. Also add in all the other types of training with poisons, firearms, and weapons he learned. Castle would just now be entering the army when Slade began training with assassins. Navy seal are highly trained, I'll give you that but as a top assassin Slade performs things solo that it would have taken Castles whole team to accomplish. Nothing you have shown proves Castle is superior to Slade in any degree. Talking about medals and commendations doesnt mean anything because Slade was discharged because he didnt follow orders and went rogue killing almost an entire complex for hurting his family. Deathstroke is still proven superior. You can keep argueing but you'll never convince me or anyone else who actually knows both characters.Again, being in the military longer dosen't mean you have more combat experience. Being in COMBAT gives you more combat experience. Which is why Punisher has more combat experience. Slade went around training with assassins? Punisher trained Marine Force Recon operatives. He dosen't need training to be one of the greatest assassins in Marvel 616. He's on par with Cap himself in combat skill, which is way more than Slade can say, seeing as he's below Batman. More opinions, with no proof. What things has Slade preformed precomic "solo" that matches up to what Castle has done. And Punisher was the sole survivor of one of the biggest engagements in Vietnam. Yeah, Punisher is definitely > than Slade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Deathstroke vs Punisher in just about anything, DS wins. As for who is more skilled, Frank. Frank does everything at a peak human level, where as Deathstroke is superhuman to a degree. Frank has feats that stack up pretty well against Slade. Slade has done crazy feats, but he is also superhuman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 With Slade at 20 years combat experience above Castle in no way will you ever convince me he is lesser than Castle. End of story. Then DS beats him in every other way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xman4life Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 With Slade at 20 years combat experience above Castle in no way will you ever convince me he is lesser than Castle. End of story. Then DS beats him in every other way as well.This is an easy debate. lets do the math shall we?Slade(super human)Frank(peak human)super human>peak human. Ahhhhh that was easy.If slade can darw a gun faster than frank then that means slade can shoot frank before he even pulls his gun.If slade can dodge bullets then frank losesIf slade can out run frank then frank losesIf frank can over power frank then frank loses. am I missing anything? I can';t belive this was a REAL debate. Slade to frank is alfred to Captain America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 With Slade at 20 years combat experience above Castle in no way will you ever convince me he is lesser than Castle. End of story. Then DS beats him in every other way as well.No he's not. Punisher has way more combat experience than Slade. Period. Point blank, thats how it is. You can actually read up on the characters by going to their respective Wikias and see for yourself. but of course, you don't debate with proof, you debate by this, "D00d thts H0w ItH Iz Pwn lolololol!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 With Slade at 20 years combat experience above Castle in no way will you ever convince me he is lesser than Castle. End of story. Then DS beats him in every other way as well.There is a HUGE difference between skill and experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 There is a HUGE difference between skill and experienceExperience comes from the amount and quality of opponents they face and slade has faced MANY factions of terrorists or enitre groups or tons of people way above those that Castle has fought in their normal universe. He has been around nearly as long as Punisher but regularly battle opponents more skilled or powerful than he is and fairl whips them until the end of the fight. Then skills comes from the amount of training and Slade EASILY surpasses Castle in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Experience comes from the amount and quality of opponents they face and slade has faced MANY factions of terrorists or enitre groups or tons of people way above those that Castle has fought in their normal universe. He has been around nearly as long as Punisher but regularly battle opponents more skilled or powerful than he is and fairl whips them until the end of the fight. Then skills comes from the amount of training and Slade EASILY surpasses Castle in that department.Punsiher has never fought terrorists or entire groups of people. Right. You've never read a goddamn Punisher comic in your entire life, this is freaking pathetic, fanboyism to the max: this is the most severe case I've seen in a long time. Punisher regularly takes out entire ORGANIZATIONS of highly armed, trained, terrorists/criminals/mob guys. Thats what he DOES. He is ALWAYS outgunned, and outmanned, and he ALWAYS wins. Except he hasn't. And pretty much everybody except you acknowledges that Punisher has greater skill and experience. Punisher's training comes form real life combat, not from travelling around and getting tips from people, expecially his garrison officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Experience comes from the amount and quality of opponents they face and slade has faced MANY factions of terrorists or enitre groups or tons of people way above those that Castle has fought in their normal universe. He has been around nearly as long as Punisher but regularly battle opponents more skilled or powerful than he is and fairl whips them until the end of the fight. Then skills comes from the amount of training and Slade EASILY surpasses Castle in that department.Meh, some people are born with skill some work for it. Lebron James was born to be a basketball god, he averaged 20 points a game as a rookie where as Jordan averaged 13 points at college, and they were the same age.. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school team, but busted his ass every day to get where he is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Punsiher has never fought terrorists or entire groups of people. Right. You've never read a goddamn Punisher comic in your entire life, this is freaking pathetic, fanboyism to the max: this is the most severe case I've seen in a long time. Punisher regularly takes out entire ORGANIZATIONS of highly armed, trained, terrorists/criminals/mob guys. Thats what he DOES. He is ALWAYS outgunned, and outmanned, and he ALWAYS wins. Except he hasn't. And pretty much everybody except you acknowledges that Punisher has greater skill and experience. Punisher's training comes form real life combat, not from travelling around and getting tips from people, expecially his garrison officer.I never said Punisher doesnt face organizations. Stopping flipping out you child but Slade's experience with metahumans put him well above Castle in experience. Slade is EXPERIENCED enough to take out Atom, Hawkman, GL, Flash, Zatanna, Green Arrow, and Black Canary in a single strike. It wasnt until Arrow, who knew Slade's past struck a nerve and they all jumped him. Say what you want but it happened and shows Deathstroke far more expeienced in combat. Skill wise Slade has more training, more varied training, and more years of training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I never said Punisher doesnt face organizations. Stopping flipping out you child but Slade's experience with metahumans put him well above Castle in experience. Slade is EXPERIENCED enough to take out Atom, Hawkman, GL, Flash, Zatanna, Green Arrow, and Black Canary in a single strike. It wasnt until Arrow, who knew Slade's past struck a nerve and they all jumped him. Say what you want but it happened and shows Deathstroke far more expeienced in combat. Skill wise Slade has more training, more varied training, and more years of training.Is that really your only feat? Its PIS. Its the equivalent of using the fact that Darkseid got mugged by humans in the other thread. Again, Punisher probably has more crossovers than almost anyone else, he's got plenty of experience with metahumans, even fighting beings like Hulk and Ulik Without enhanced physicals WITHOUT indestructable armor and wITHOUT energy lance. Again, real life combat experience >>>> Training. Ask anyone, no matter how much training you get, its what you do when the feild hits you thats important. And while DS was BEING trained, Punisher was TRAINING some of the most lethal warriors on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 Again, real life combat experience >>>> Training. Ask anyone, no matter how much training you get, its what you do when the feild hits you thats important. And while DS was BEING trained, Punisher was TRAINING some of the most lethal warriors on earth.PURE BS seeing as how Slade is roughly 20 yrs older. Slade was done with the military about the time Castle go out of diapers. Then Slade would be in training with assassins about the time Castle was in highschool. Finally Slade is fully trained and taking out hordes of men while Punisher is still learning how to load a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 PURE BS seeing as how Slade is roughly 20 yrs older. Slade was done with the military about the time Castle go out of diapers. Then Slade would be in training with assassins about the time Castle was in highschool. Finally Slade is fully trained and taking out hordes of men while Punisher is still learning how to load a gun.Again, please know half a damn about the characters your debating against before you run your ignorant mouth. While Slade served a breif stint in Korea, and a little action in Vietnam, Castle was serving 4 full combat tours, and basically whole damn war himself. While Slade was eyeing his garrison commander and doing nothing at a base, Punisher was killing hordes of Vietcong. While DS was sitting on his ass, Castle was busy being the sole survivor of one of the biggest engagements of the war. Age =/= experience. combat experience = experience. You're basically saying that a 18 year old who has gone through 4 combat tours is less experienced than a 24 year old who basically sat on his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Again, please know half a damn about the characters your debating against before you run your ignorant mouth. While Slade served a breif stint in Korea, and a little action in Vietnam, Castle was serving 4 full combat tours, and basically whole damn war himself. [Four years does not equal the 20 years the war was going on] While Slade was eyeing his garrison commander and doing nothing at a base, Punisher was killing hordes of Vietcong. While DS was sitting on his ass, Castle was busy being the sole survivor of one of the biggest engagements of the war. Age =/= experience. combat experience = experience. You're basically saying that a 18 year old who has gone through 4 combat tours is less experienced than a 24 year old who basically sat on his ass.I'll admit I made a mistake.... Slade was in combat and served in the Korean War before Castle was even born. He became a Major after that war. Funny thing is he was only 16 and lied about his age but still outperformed ALL his fellow soldiers. Then he studied and quickly adapted to modern conventions of warfare. According to instructors he was considered the most able bodied they had encountered. After that he was privately trained in guerilla warfare. After that he mastered EVERY fighting style presented to him. He was then promoted to Lieutenant. He then entered the Vietnam war. So entered the Vietnam War as a Lt. and Castle was just getting his first taste of real combat. After Slade fought during the entire war, sometime later he volunteered for experiments that gave him his abilities. The military wouldnt take him back after the experiments done on him so he turned to hunting. He became a world class hunter on par with Kraven. During that time he also received training from some of the greatest assassins of the DCU. He fulfilled contracts till about 1980. From 1980 and on he has experience fighting super powered foes. So basically Slade has roughly 20 years of experience and training over Slade and about 30 years of experience against meta humans and such. The Punisher only has 4 YEARS of actually warfare experience. The rest of his time was training others as oppose to Slade's minimum 17 more years of experience since Slade went in when the war escalated in 1961. Frank didnt enter until 1971. Slade has 17 years for th Vietnam War and the about 2 years he was in the Korean War. His experience far outways Franks their. So Slade has trained with more experienced teacher from assassins, become a world class hunter on Kraven's level, and served about 17 years in military combat and you try to tell me that Frank is more skilled and experienced. Research the Punisher before you start raving for him. It wouldnt hurt to check out his opponent either. CLASS DISMISSED CHILD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Imperius Rex Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I'll admit I made a mistake.... Slade was in combat and served in the Korean War before Castle was even born. He became a Major after that war. Funny thing is he was only 16 and lied about his age but still outperformed ALL his fellow soldiers. Then he studied and quickly adapted to modern conventions of warfare. According to instructors he was considered the most able bodied they had encountered. After that he was privately trained in guerilla warfare. After that he mastered EVERY fighting style presented to him. He was then promoted to Lieutenant. He then entered the Vietnam war. So entered the Vietnam War as a Lt. and Castle was just getting his first taste of real combat. After Slade fought during the entire war, sometime later he volunteered for experiments that gave him his abilities. The military wouldnt take him back after the experiments done on him so he turned to hunting. He became a world class hunter on par with Kraven. During that time he also received training from some of the greatest assassins of the DCU. He fulfilled contracts till about 1980. From 1980 and on he has experience fighting super powered foes. So basically Slade has roughly 20 years of experience and training over Slade and about 30 years of experience against meta humans and such. The Punisher only has 4 YEARS of actually warfare experience. The rest of his time was training others as oppose to Slade's minimum 17 more years of experience since Slade went in when the war escalated in 1961. Frank didnt enter until 1971. Slade has 17 years for th Vietnam War and the about 2 years he was in the Korean War. His experience far outways Franks their. So Slade has trained with more experienced teacher from assassins, become a world class hunter on Kraven's level, and served about 17 years in military combat and you try to tell me that Frank is more skilled and experienced. Research the Punisher before you start raving for him. It wouldnt hurt to check out his opponent either. CLASS DISMISSED CHILD!I think that sums it up really. I like the ending. Its funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I'll admit I made a mistake.... Slade was in combat and served in the Korean War before Castle was even born. He became a Major after that war. Funny thing is he was only 16 and lied about his age but still outperformed ALL his fellow soldiers. Then he studied and quickly adapted to modern conventions of warfare. According to instructors he was considered the most able bodied they had encountered. After that he was privately trained in guerilla warfare. After that he mastered EVERY fighting style presented to him. He was then promoted to Lieutenant. He then entered the Vietnam war. So entered the Vietnam War as a Lt. and Castle was just getting his first taste of real combat. After Slade fought during the entire war, sometime later he volunteered for experiments that gave him his abilities. The military wouldnt take him back after the experiments done on him so he turned to hunting. He became a world class hunter on par with Kraven. During that time he also received training from some of the greatest assassins of the DCU. He fulfilled contracts till about 1980. From 1980 and on he has experience fighting super powered foes. So basically Slade has roughly 20 years of experience and training over Slade and about 30 years of experience against meta humans and such. The Punisher only has 4 YEARS of actually warfare experience. The rest of his time was training others as oppose to Slade's minimum 17 more years of experience since Slade went in when the war escalated in 1961. Frank didnt enter until 1971. Slade has 17 years for th Vietnam War and the about 2 years he was in the Korean War. His experience far outways Franks their. So Slade has trained with more experienced teacher from assassins, become a world class hunter on Kraven's level, and served about 17 years in military combat and you try to tell me that Frank is more skilled and experienced. Research the Punisher before you start raving for him. It wouldnt hurt to check out his opponent either. CLASS DISMISSED CHILD!Wrong on MANY accounts. First, Salde did not serve all of Korea, he served a breif portion. After that, he went garrison and learned all of that, in your little rant, you made it seem like he learned that while he was fighting. Sorry, but that entire time he was training, he earned a total of 000 combat experience. After that, he served a BREIF STINT in Vietnam, nowhere NEAR the entire war, like you FALSELY claim. I would also point out, that during Vietnam, Slade recieved no commendations or even anything out of the unusual, unlike Castle. Plus, he wasn't spec ops like Castle was. He became a famous safari hunter, the fact that you say he's equal to Kraven is an opinion. He never travelled around the world getting training from assassins, thats a lie. During this time, Castle was training some of the deadliest warriors on Earth. Then, while Slade was filling contracts, Castle was engaging virtually every known crime organization ON THE PLANET. So lets see here. First off, Castle entered the war in 1968 not 1971. Second off, Slade didn't serve through the whole Vietnam war or the Korean war. Third, while Slade served as a regular soldier with no commendations whatsoever, Punisher was a spec op operative with many MANY commendations. Yeah Frank wins here. You're the one who needs to read the characters, not I. Castle outweighs Slade in experience almost as much as he outweighs Slade in skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 Wrong on MANY accounts. First, Salde did not serve all of Korea, he served a breif portion. After that, he went garrison and learned all of that, in your little rant, you made it seem like he learned that while he was fighting. Sorry, but that entire time he was training, he earned a total of 000 combat experience. After that, he served a BREIF STINT in Vietnam, nowhere NEAR the entire war, like you FALSELY claim. I would also point out, that during Vietnam, Slade recieved no commendations or even anything out of the unusual, unlike Castle. Plus, he wasn't spec ops like Castle was. He became a famous safari hunter, the fact that you say he's equal to Kraven is an opinion. He never travelled around the world getting training from assassins, thats a lie. During this time, Castle was training some of the deadliest warriors on Earth. Then, while Slade was filling contracts, Castle was engaging virtually every known crime organization ON THE PLANET. So lets see here. First off, Castle entered the war in 1968 not 1971. Second off, Slade didn't serve through the whole Vietnam war or the Korean war. Third, while Slade served as a regular soldier with no commendations whatsoever, Punisher was a spec op operative with many MANY commendations. Yeah Frank wins here. You're the one who needs to read the characters, not I. Castle outweighs Slade in experience almost as much as he outweighs Slade in skill.I know its upsetting but Slade joined the Vietnam war as it escalated for US. That was in 1963 he was in the war until it was over in 1975 as a Lt. Slade traveled the World and became a world class hunter. Kraven is a world class hunter. He was then trained by assassins after his family was killed and he got revenge on the murderers. You seem to know nothing about either characters origins or historical info on either war. You have lost and you cant disprove the info because Punishers came straight from Marvel.com. He has 4 years war experience. So he cant hold a candle to Slade's nearly 20 years of service from Private to Lt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I think that sums it up really. I like the ending. Its funny.Yeah cause you cant argue the facts and the facts is what I provided as oppose to Echo's "claims" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 I know its upsetting but Slade joined the Vietnam war as it escalated for US. That was in 1963 he was in the war until it was over in 1975 as a Lt. Slade traveled the World and became a world class hunter. Kraven is a world class hunter. He was then trained by assassins after his family was killed and he got revenge on the murderers. You seem to know nothing about either characters origins or historical info on either war. You have lost and you cant disprove the info because Punishers came straight from Marvel.com. He has 4 years war experience. So he cant hold a candle to Slade's nearly 20 years of service from Private to Lt.Lt. Big deal, Castle is a Captain, more proof of greater experience. Show me proof that Slade travelled around the world and learned from all of the best assassins in MU, including all of the ones you listed: Batman, Bronze Tiger, etc. I looked on DC and they had no mention of this. Also, show proof that Slade was in the entire Vietnam war. Kraven is above a world class hunter, Kraven hunted down Spider-Man. If you actually learn how to read, I never contradicted the fact that Castle has 4 year's war experience in Vietnam, in fact, I was the first one who said it. You haven't disproved any of my facts, and you haven't proven any of your claims. You lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Lt. Big deal, Castle is a Captain, more proof of greater experience. Show me proof that Slade travelled around the world and learned from all of the best assassins in MU, including all of the ones you listed: Batman, Bronze Tiger, etc. I looked on DC and they had no mention of this. Also, show proof that Slade was in the entire Vietnam war. Kraven is above a world class hunter, Kraven hunted down Spider-Man. If you actually learn how to read, I never contradicted the fact that Castle has 4 year's war experience in Vietnam, in fact, I was the first one who said it. You haven't disproved any of my facts, and you haven't proven any of your claims. You lose.ALL THE PROOF Slade was in combat and served in the Korean War before Castle was even born. He became a Major after that war. Funny thing is he was only 16 and lied about his age but still outperformed ALL his fellow soldiers. Then he studied and quickly adapted to modern conventions of warfare. According to instructors he was considered the most able bodied they had encountered. After that he was privately trained in guerilla warfare. After that he mastered EVERY fighting style presented to him. He was then promoted to Lieutenant. He then entered the Vietnam war. So entered the Vietnam War as a Lt. and Castle was just getting his first taste of real combat. After Slade fought during the entire war, sometime later he volunteered for experiments that gave him his abilities. The military wouldnt take him back after the experiments done on him so he turned to hunting. He became a world class hunter on par with Kraven. During that time he also received training from some of the greatest assassins of the DCU. He fulfilled contracts till about 1980. From 1980 and on he has experience fighting super powered foes. So basically Slade has roughly 20 years of experience and training over Slade and about 30 years of experience against meta humans and such. The Punisher only has 4 YEARS of actually warfare experience. The rest of his time was training others as oppose to Slade's minimum 17 more years of experience since Slade went in when the war escalated in 1961. Frank didnt enter until 1971. Slade has 17 years for th Vietnam War and the about 2 years he was in the Korean War. His experience far outways Franks their. So Slade has trained with more experienced teacher from assassins, become a world class hunter on Kraven's level, and served about 17 years in military combat and you try to tell me that Frank is more skilled and experienced. Research the Punisher before you start raving for him. It wouldnt hurt to check out his opponent either. CLASS DISMISSED CHILD! I lose but your the only one supporting Castle as where everyone else agrees with me. Your impossible. You have been disproven and the debate is over. Now I know you'll jump back in to get the last word because your arrogant child like behavior wont be able to control it but again the discussion is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest misterwayne Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 ALL THE PROOF Slade was in combat and served in the Korean War before Castle was even born. He became a Major after that war. Funny thing is he was only 16 and lied about his age but still outperformed ALL his fellow soldiers. Then he studied and quickly adapted to modern conventions of warfare. According to instructors he was considered the most able bodied they had encountered. After that he was privately trained in guerilla warfare. After that he mastered EVERY fighting style presented to him. He was then promoted to Lieutenant. He then entered the Vietnam war. So entered the Vietnam War as a Lt. and Castle was just getting his first taste of real combat. After Slade fought during the entire war, sometime later he volunteered for experiments that gave him his abilities. The military wouldnt take him back after the experiments done on him so he turned to hunting. He became a world class hunter on par with Kraven. During that time he also received training from some of the greatest assassins of the DCU. He fulfilled contracts till about 1980. From 1980 and on he has experience fighting super powered foes. So basically Slade has roughly 20 years of experience and training over Slade and about 30 years of experience against meta humans and such. The Punisher only has 4 YEARS of actually warfare experience. The rest of his time was training others as oppose to Slade's minimum 17 more years of experience since Slade went in when the war escalated in 1961. Frank didnt enter until 1971. Slade has 17 years for th Vietnam War and the about 2 years he was in the Korean War. His experience far outways Franks their. So Slade has trained with more experienced teacher from assassins, become a world class hunter on Kraven's level, and served about 17 years in military combat and you try to tell me that Frank is more skilled and experienced. Research the Punisher before you start raving for him. It wouldnt hurt to check out his opponent either. Agreed! Also, it was recently revealed in Titans that Slade also served a bit in Afghanistan. It was his last mission before he became a mercenary. It also true that he went around the world to train with deadly assassins. In fact, he trained with Natas in the ways of the Ninja and assassination techniques (If memory serves me correctly, he also taught him to use the sword). While I like Frank, he is just outclassed in all areas (physically, mentally and experience wise). Oh btw, in the Titans issue, his eye was plucked out but he regrew it in the next issue. So, he also has another advantage... Regeneration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 ALL THE PROOF Slade was in combat and served in the Korean War before Castle was even born. He became a Major after that war. Funny thing is he was only 16 and lied about his age but still outperformed ALL his fellow soldiers. Then he studied and quickly adapted to modern conventions of warfare. According to instructors he was considered the most able bodied they had encountered. After that he was privately trained in guerilla warfare. After that he mastered EVERY fighting style presented to him. He was then promoted to Lieutenant. He then entered the Vietnam war. So entered the Vietnam War as a Lt. and Castle was just getting his first taste of real combat. After Slade fought during the entire war, sometime later he volunteered for experiments that gave him his abilities. The military wouldnt take him back after the experiments done on him so he turned to hunting. He became a world class hunter on par with Kraven. During that time he also received training from some of the greatest assassins of the DCU. He fulfilled contracts till about 1980. From 1980 and on he has experience fighting super powered foes. So basically Slade has roughly 20 years of experience and training over Slade and about 30 years of experience against meta humans and such. The Punisher only has 4 YEARS of actually warfare experience. The rest of his time was training others as oppose to Slade's minimum 17 more years of experience since Slade went in when the war escalated in 1961. Frank didnt enter until 1971. Slade has 17 years for th Vietnam War and the about 2 years he was in the Korean War. His experience far outways Franks their. So Slade has trained with more experienced teacher from assassins, become a world class hunter on Kraven's level, and served about 17 years in military combat and you try to tell me that Frank is more skilled and experienced. Research the Punisher before you start raving for him. It wouldnt hurt to check out his opponent either. CLASS DISMISSED CHILD! I lose but your the only one supporting Castle as where everyone else agrees with me. Your impossible. You have been disproven and the debate is over. Now I know you'll jump back in to get the last word because your arrogant child like behavior wont be able to control it but again the discussion is over.Is that really your counter? Posting the same thing over again. Show proof, or your claims have no credibility. You're right, this discussion IS over. Its clear that Punisher severly outclasses Slade in both experience and skill. Honestly, your lack of ability to formulate coherent arguments points in YOUR lack of intelligence/mauturity, not mine. Its also clear that you're the worst debater on the site, making up claims with no evidence to back up anything. 2+2=4. Falcon + anything having to do with intelligence= FAIL. Simple Math. Class dismissed. P.S- You're right, I completly agree with you. You DO lose. I'm glad you can admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Is that really your counter? Posting the same thing over again. Show proof, or your claims have no credibility. You're right, this discussion IS over. Its clear that Punisher severly outclasses Slade in both experience and skill. Honestly, your lack of ability to formulate coherent arguments points in YOUR lack of intelligence/mauturity, not mine. Its also clear that you're the worst debater on the site, making up claims with no evidence to back up anything. 2+2=4. Falcon + anything having to do with intelligence= FAIL. Simple Math. Class dismissed. P.S- You're right, I completly agree with you. You DO lose. I'm glad you can admit it.Fatcs are facts and Slade is superior. You wont and cant disprove them and evidently know nothing of history and deny the characters origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Fatcs are facts and Slade is superior. You wont and cant disprove them and evidently know nothing of history and deny the characters origins.Still no proof? Why are you bothering posting? If you have no proof, then sorry, as far as any decent debating rules go, you're lying. Everyone knows cheating never wins (how apt, because you've inconsolably lost every debate you've had with me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Falcon Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Still no proof? Why are you bothering posting? If you have no proof, then sorry, as far as any decent debating rules go, you're lying. Everyone knows cheating never wins (how apt, because you've inconsolably lost every debate you've had with me).AGAIN we will have to agree to disagree because myself and ALL others see it one way and you see it a different way. ??? Seems like the majority agree with me in this and most other threads. Hmmmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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