Guest LegendX Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 And another arguement can be made that Palpatine didn't have the same feats as the other Sith Lords. Sion, Nihilus, Bane, Revan. There's a long list.Palpatine also has feats none of them have. For one, none of the others ever managed total galactic dominance(until Darth Krayt over 100 years later). Palpatine also had something of a mind control over the weaker minded people of the galaxy, the ENTIRE galaxy, 24/7. Not to mention he was able to sit and converse with Yoda and several other Jedi masters on many, many occasions without them ever even suspecting he was even Force sensitive, let alone the Dark Lord of the Sith. He used the Darkside to cloud the Force and impair the Jedi's ability to read the future or perceive his existance. His own ability to foresee future events surpassed that of even Yoda. Only Darth Traya's forsight abilities rivaled(possibly surpassed) his own. The statement that he was the most powerful Sith isn't just a testament to his strength in the Force, but, his strength of mind and will as well. He staged a galactic war. Playing both sides insured that, regardless of the outcome, he'd come out on top as ruler of the galaxy. He was able to consistently stay several steps ahead of the Jedi and initiated probably the most thorough Jedi Purge in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I'd like to point out that Vader was in a weakened state when he threw Palpatine, and only had one hand, while Palpatine was fresh. Your theory could work, explaining why Palp didn't just force push Vader, but couldn't he have, you know, hit him with his lightsaber? And another arguement can be made that Palpatine didn't have the same feats as the other Sith Lords. Sion, Nihilus, Bane, Revan. There's a long list. And I'd like to point out A New Hope Vader was lifting up a man and crushing his windpipe with one hand, aboard the Tantive IV. Palpatine may have been ok up to that point, but physically he is a weak body, while Vader was a tall cyborg. Palpatine couldn't hit him with his lightsaber because he didn't think of it. Or, perhaps he did, but no longer carried around a lightsaber? LegendX pretty much covered the last part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jadel94 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Chalk that up to PIS.Luke is the best but still!Starkiller is extremely powerful if they fought in their most powerful states who would win!If starkiller was trained to the goodside and he met luke and challenged him and who would win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Luke is the best but still!Starkiller is extremely powerful if they fought in their most powerful states who would win!If starkiller was trained to the goodside and he met luke and challenged him and who would win! Luke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boston_celtics Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Palpatine also has feats none of them have. For one, none of the others ever managed total galactic dominance(until Darth Krayt over 100 years later). Palpatine also had something of a mind control over the weaker minded people of the galaxy, the ENTIRE galaxy, 24/7. Not to mention he was able to sit and converse with Yoda and several other Jedi masters on many, many occasions without them ever even suspecting he was even Force sensitive, let alone the Dark Lord of the Sith. He used the Darkside to cloud the Force and impair the Jedi's ability to read the future or perceive his existance. His own ability to foresee future events surpassed that of even Yoda. Only Darth Traya's forsight abilities rivaled(possibly surpassed) his own. The statement that he was the most powerful Sith isn't just a testament to his strength in the Force, but, his strength of mind and will as well. He staged a galactic war. Playing both sides insured that, regardless of the outcome, he'd come out on top as ruler of the galaxy. He was able to consistently stay several steps ahead of the Jedi and initiated probably the most thorough Jedi Purge in history. Good point, I always regarded his title as actual strength in the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LegendX Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Luke is the best but still!Starkiller is extremely powerful if they fought in their most powerful states who would win!If starkiller was trained to the goodside and he met luke and challenged him and who would win!If he fought Luke around ESB time or before... yeah, Starkiller would probably take that fight. But most powerful states... Luke stomps if he so chooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jadel94 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 Chalk that up to PIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinDWolf93 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Chalk that up to PIS. Well in return of jedi Palpatine was full of PIS: The while thing about the shield generators, making luke realize he was going to darkside, so he could snap outta it ,slowly torturing Luke while his dad(who has shown to still care for his son) is recoperating Now as for feats for the fight heres my thoughts:Starkiller was able to boss rush vader and palpatine after fighting his way through the death star, he didnt kill em but there was a bit about sacrificing himself so everyone could escape so killing palp might notve been a priority. Palpatine is shown to be powerful in EU and while alot of the stuff that was mentioned is cool, Not alot of it was physical fighting(most mind games and gambits, though going through 5 jedi order members in about 5 seconds was good) Luke:Not going into EU, after a bit of training from yoda he was able to match vader(even crippled, dudes one of the best swordsman in the council of his time) After being realized jedi a few years later he was able to beat him. Revan: Mentioned, same for bane. Yoda: Hes Yoda. Ill go for fight results later, but its gettin late for me now. Also if anyone wants to correct me feel free to, Im taking this from mind only and wont double check till later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinDWolf93 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 If he fought Luke around ESB time or before... yeah, Starkiller would probably take that fight. But most powerful states... Luke stomps if he so chooses. Speaking of which anyone see the TFU:Ultimate sith edition trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Speaking of which anyone see the TFU:Ultimate sith edition trailer?It looks good, and may have inspired me to restart my Halo vs Star Wars series since it actually takes place after the Dark Side ending to TFU. I'm also trying my hand at animating my stories, I have some artistic skill, Photoshop and Liveswif... I just need the will to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MarvelFan15 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I'm also trying my hand at animating my stories, I have some artistic skill, Photoshop and Liveswif... I just need the will to move. ...I would too, but...I'd need software first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirmisher Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 ...I would too, but...I'd need software first.There is some fairly good free stuff out there. Take Liveswif for example, 100% free flash animation software. Not the best quality, but at least it'll allow you to try your hand at it, see if you like it and such and even get used to animating. After that you can spend the money for the better gear if you want to. That's how I'm doing it. As for my Photoshop... I got it for free, but it's something like several editions out of date. But I'm not picky, it works for what I need to do with it, and that's what counts. Although this one was kinda a lucky break... Good luck if you ever decide to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinDWolf93 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 It looks good, and may have inspired me to restart my Halo vs Star Wars series since it actually takes place after the Dark Side ending to TFU. I'm also trying my hand at animating my stories, I have some artistic skill, Photoshop and Liveswif... I just need the will to move. Glad to hear that...cant wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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