Wizard Battle # 2: Harry Potter versus Dr. Stephen Strange

[AVP vs The Terminator]

I'm trying to think if there is any Magical force outside comics who can stand up to Strange without going full-on gods, (though to be fair Strange routinely tangles with gods.) Let's see... Fizban is really Paladine, Morgoth is a god too... Uhhh... depending on what artifacts Strange is equipped with, Sauron. Who else? Oberon from Gargoyles, possibly? A big maaaaybe to Gandalf as the White Rider, the very best versions of Merlin, and Raistlin at his absolute peak.

I was thinking Galbatorix from Eragon could face him, though it would depend on what Strange would be equipped with.

[OMFG]

I was thinking Galbatorix from Eragon could face him, though it would depend on what Strange would be equipped with.

A Seducing Horse?

[Guest Darksaiyajin345]

A Seducing Horse?

Its name is Tristen >

An Galbatrix could learn his true name maybe?

[Guest shellsbut]

Strange is on a whole other level. This is one sided

[OMFG]

Ladies and gentlemen, the new supreme wizrd.... Tristen The Seducing Horse!!!

[Guest force_echo]

Stop with the *vulgarity*ing horse already.

[Guest Mr. Outstanding]

Stop with the *vulgarity*ing horse already.

 

They're beating a dead horse.

 

*Bows

 

[Guest Darksaiyajin345]

They're beating a dead horse.

 

*Bows

 

Fine then Ill pick a new animal.

[Guest Mr. Outstanding]

Fine then Ill pick a new animal.

 

Maybe someone will make a new thread involving the horse . . . I was about to do it but, due to the potentially graphic/explicit nature of such a thread, decided against it. When you bring seducing horses into the picture well . . . let's just say the "child-friendly" atmosphere in this place would quickly end.

 

Young student of comic books: Is it okay if I use the computer, Ma? I'm going to commune with my good friends at the electric ferret.

 

Mother: Just be careful who you talk with son; you are only nine, after all.

 

Young student of CB arrives at EF, quickly finds thread titled "The Horse that Seduced Harry Potter (wearing the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme) vs Doc Strange (without SS mantle)," and begins to peruse its contents. Mother, curious of what child is looking at, walks in at the critical moment. There are many scenarios writ in that thread, many of which even the mother will later wish she could forget.

[Guest Darksaiyajin345]

Maybe someone will make a new thread involving the horse . . . I was about to do it but, due to the potentially graphic/explicit nature of such a thread, decided against it. When you bring seducing horses into the picture well . . . let's just say the "child-friendly" atmosphere in this place would quickly end.

 

Young student of comic books: Is it okay if I use the computer, Ma? I'm going to commune with my good friends at the electric ferret.

 

Mother: Just be careful who you talk with son; you are only nine, after all.

 

Young student of CB arrives at EF, quickly finds thread titled "The Horse that Seduced Harry Potter (wearing the mantle of Sorcerer Supreme) vs Doc Strange (without SS mantle)," and begins to peruse its contents. Mother, curious of what child is looking at, walks in at the critical moment. There are many scenarios writ in that thread, many of which even the mother will later wish she could forget.

You win today mostly because I cant stop laughin!

[Guest Mr. Outstanding]

I'm trying to think if there is any Magical force outside comics who can stand up to Strange without going full-on gods, (though to be fair Strange routinely tangles with gods.) Let's see... Fizban is really Paladine, Morgoth is a god too... Uhhh... depending on what artifacts Strange is equipped with, Sauron. Who else? Oberon from Gargoyles, possibly? A big maaaaybe to Gandalf as the White Rider, the very best versions of Merlin, and Raistlin at his absolute peak.

 

Since I'm already thinking about Terry Goodkind, maybe The Boxes of Orden?

 

There are also a number of items/weapons/people in fantasy fiction that can absorb, negate, or even turn magic against its user. In the Sword of Truth series there was the Mord Sith; in Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen there is the Otataral metal. I'm not sure how such things would affect Strange's magic though.

[Guest sirmethos]

I'm trying to think if there is any Magical force outside comics who can stand up to Strange without going full-on gods, (though to be fair Strange routinely tangles with gods.) Let's see... Fizban is really Paladine, Morgoth is a god too... Uhhh... depending on what artifacts Strange is equipped with, Sauron. Who else? Oberon from Gargoyles, possibly? A big maaaaybe to Gandalf as the White Rider, the very best versions of Merlin, and Raistlin at his absolute peak.

 

Corren from the Deathgate cycle.

 

Also the Dragon-snakes and their counter-parts the Dragons, from the Deathgate cycle as well, and possibly some of the more powerful 'natural' dragons from the same universe.

 

Belgarion with the sword/Orb of Aldur from the Belgariad/Malorian series(and possibly Beldin 'cos he's just friggin' scary).

 

Kylar Stern with the black ka'kari(Night Angel trilogy).

[Guest Ivan]

Corren from the Deathgate cycle.

 

Also the Dragon-snakes and their counter-parts the Dragons, from the Deathgate cycle as well, and possibly some of the more powerful 'natural' dragons from the same universe.

 

Belgarion with the sword/Orb of Aldur from the Belgariad/Malorian series(and possibly Beldin 'cos he's just friggin' scary).

 

Kylar Stern with the black ka'kari(Night Angel trilogy).

 

I don't think Alfred would come close. Xar was (I believe) more powerful than Alfred, and even he wouldn't stand much of a chance against Strange. You could make a case for Sang-Drax, but if I remember correctly like the Serpents and Dragons were specifically strong against Rune magic because they were created in the Sundering- Strange would have lots of other options. I'm not familiar with the other series you listed.

[Guest sirmethos]

I don't think Alfred would come close. Xar was (I believe) more powerful than Alfred, and even he wouldn't stand much of a chance against Strange. You could make a case for Sang-Drax, but if I remember correctly like the Serpents and Dragons were specifically strong against Rune magic because they were created in the Sundering- Strange would have lots of other options. I'm not familiar with the other series you listed.

 

Alfred's 'Corren' persona is far more powerful than Xar. Corren was referred to as a 'Dragonlord', which gave him a ton of respect from the Sartans in the labyrinth.

 

The labyrinth itself was semi-sentient, and perceived Alfred as a far greater threat that Xar. The Corren persona is the part of Alfred that actually has full access to his magical abilities, unlike the 'Alfred' persona he created for himself as protection, that just faints whenever trouble shows up.

 

Alfred/Corren is, not counting the Dragons/Dragonsnakes, the most powerful character shown in the Deathgate cycle.

 

 

The Runemagic of the Deathgate cycle is, imo, one of the most awesome forms of magic, and definitely one of the most powerful.

 

 

Edit: (I forgot to address your point about the Dragons/Dragonsnakes) The serpents and dragons didn't have any specific resistance against Rune magic, they were/are the personification of Good and Evil respectively.

[Guest Ivan]

Hmmm... it's been such a long time since I read those... I don't remember a "Dragonlord" except Zifnab. I thought Alfred was below that level of power, a "Serpent Mage." Like I said, it's been a good decade since I last read a Death Gate book. Still, I'm almost certain Sang Drax and the rest were exceptionally strong against Patryn/Sartan magic- to the point of being able to easily put the most powerful among them on even terms with the mensch. Maybe I'm confusing them with something? There was a bit with the water from the water planet, I know, but that's not what I'm thinking of. (Still, a useful argument if I were rooting against any Patryn/Sartan in a fight)

 

I just googled DGS so I could read up on rune magic again, I had forgotten most of that with The Wave and probability alteration. (For some reason I cared more about Hugh than I did about Haplo and Alfred) I'm still not convinced Rune Magic would be a match for Doctor Strange. Scarlet Witch has displayed similarly impressive reality manipulation skills, and the Doctor Strange beat up the entity who gives her her powers.

 

Hey there were those titan things too, right? On the inside-out jungle planet?

 

Now I'm interested in revisiting that series...

[Guest sirmethos]

Hmmm... it's been such a long time since I read those... I don't remember a "Dragonlord" except Zifnab. I thought Alfred was below that level of power, a "Serpent Mage." Like I said, it's been a good decade since I last read a Death Gate book. Still, I'm almost certain Sang Drax and the rest were exceptionally strong against Patryn/Sartan magic- to the point of being able to easily put the most powerful among them on even terms with the mensch. Maybe I'm confusing them with something? There was a bit with the water from the water planet, I know, but that's not what I'm thinking of. (Still, a useful argument if I were rooting against any Patryn/Sartan in a fight)

 

I just googled DGS so I could read up on rune magic again, I had forgotten most of that with The Wave and probability alteration. (For some reason I cared more about Hugh than I did about Haplo and Alfred) I'm still not convinced Rune Magic would be a match for Doctor Strange. Scarlet Witch has displayed similarly impressive reality manipulation skills, and the Doctor Strange beat up the entity who gives her her powers.

 

Hey there were those titan things too, right? On the inside-out jungle planet?

 

Now I'm interested in revisiting that series...

 

I might be remembering the term wrong(Dragonlord), but regardless of what the name of his 'rank' actually was, the fact remains that Alfred's Corren persona is far more powerful than Xar, proven by the Labyrinth perceiving Alfred as a far greater threat than it ever did Xar(it freely lets Xar re-enter time and time again, while it starts destroying parts of itself and sends entire armies to kill Alfred).

 

The "being able to easily put the most powerful among them on even terms with the mensch" is more a mix of the power difference between the Sartan/Patryn and the Serpents/Dragons, and boasting from Sang-Drax. As the personifications of Good and Evil(or possibly Order and Chaos), the Serpents/Dragons are empowered by emotions, the Serpents being empowered by the 'negative' emotions(fear, hate, anger, etc.).

 

And yes, there are Titans on Pryan(the Earth world), known as Tytans that wield primitive but Extremely powerful Sartan magic(the 'intricacy' level of their runes is compared to a 5 year old).

 

 

And I can always recommend reading the series Hickman and Weiss are, imo, great fantasy writers, and the Deathgate Cycle in particular is, again imo, one of their best.

 

End note: We agree about Hugh, he was a far more interesting persona than Haplo or Alfred, though I personally thought Alfred was interesting as well, due to his dual personalities and the reasons for the creation of his 'alfred' persona.

 

 

As for others that might be able to give Strange a good fight, or even defeat him. Elminister from Forgotten Realms, and Shandril Shessair(the Spellfire wielder) from the same universe would be good contestants in that competition as well, especially Shandril.

[Guest Mr. Outstanding]

I might be remembering the term wrong(Dragonlord), but regardless of what the name of his 'rank' actually was, the fact remains that Alfred's Corren persona is far more powerful than Xar, proven by the Labyrinth perceiving Alfred as a far greater threat than it ever did Xar(it freely lets Xar re-enter time and time again, while it starts destroying parts of itself and sends entire armies to kill Alfred).

 

The "being able to easily put the most powerful among them on even terms with the mensch" is more a mix of the power difference between the Sartan/Patryn and the Serpents/Dragons, and boasting from Sang-Drax. As the personifications of Good and Evil(or possibly Order and Chaos), the Serpents/Dragons are empowered by emotions, the Serpents being empowered by the 'negative' emotions(fear, hate, anger, etc.).

 

And yes, there are Titans on Pryan(the Earth world), known as Tytans that wield primitive but Extremely powerful Sartan magic(the 'intricacy' level of their runes is compared to a 5 year old).

 

 

And I can always recommend reading the series Hickman and Weiss are, imo, great fantasy writers, and the Deathgate Cycle in particular is, again imo, one of their best.

 

End note: We agree about Hugh, he was a far more interesting persona than Haplo or Alfred, though I personally thought Alfred was interesting as well, due to his dual personalities and the reasons for the creation of his 'alfred' persona.

 

 

As for others that might be able to give Strange a good fight, or even defeat him. Elminister from Forgotten Realms, and Shandril Shessair(the Spellfire wielder) from the same universe would be good contestants in that competition as well, especially Shandril.

 

Sir Methos, Deathgate cycle is on my "to read" list, and your recommendation just pushed it closer to the top.

 

Also, I wanted to make one last desperate appeal to Harry Potter fans as "tonight's the night" (in America, anyway). I'm practically in tears here. Harry Potter fans: WHERE ARE YOU! I know there is more to this than what's been given. It can't end this way.

 

*Gets out of chair and staggers forward, thrashing madly at the air. Raises a crude stick that may have once been a chair leg. Lips begin uttering faux-harry potter spells.

 

I won't believe it . . .

 

Edit: Yesterday was the night.