Marvel Man Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 What?! Saying the Manhunter beats Xavier is nuts. Do you realize the type of things Xavier does on a daily basis? And you say all these things about the Manhunter, but I've never seen them. Here's a little from the world's greatest telepath. Face to Face with Galactus:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/166/05lh7.jpg/ Links up Worldhttp://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5315/z1cv4.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Manhunter was around for centuries before joining the Justice League on his planet Ma'aleca'andra who mastered telepathy in ways Professior X couldn't imagine. He has experience, skill, and more power over Xavier. DC has it stated he is the most powerful Telepathy on Earth in DC and one of the most powerful in the Universe. Manhunter has the same abilities as Xavier and more as he has used his telepathy way longer then Xavier could even imagine. Martians from his home planet are so much more powerful and skilled then Xavier as well its not even funny. Green Martians and White Martians have are more powerful then Xavier. Xavier doesn't do those things on a daily basis and people forget uses Celebro alot to boost his power. When dealing with powerful threats Xavier uses Celebro. Martian Manhunter has no such thing and powerful to do such things without Celebro. Martian Manhunter attacking Black Adam with telepathy: Sorry Marvel Man your pics don't show Xavier taking on a powerful threat with his telepathy without Celebro. The first is him just talking to Galactus through telepathy and the second pic is something Manhunter can easily do. Here is Martian hitting Superboy-Prime with one hell of a punch which shows you his strength level: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bdVR-JIDi2g/Rr5D...'onn+2.jpeg Oh like I said Martian Manhunter can link the minds of everybody on Earth as well. Here is prove to he can: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Oh here is the second part to that Black Adam one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Man Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Say what? Now, I totally agree that the Manhunter is a powerful psychic (not so sure why you posted his super punch, his super strength too is fairly obvious). However, I'm saying that many other powerful Marvel psychics have not been able to crack the Hulk's head. The Martian will not, and cannot either. You see, the Hulk's head is really complicated. Inside, there's the Gray Hulk, Bruce Banner, the regular Green Hulk, Devil Hulk, and many other Hulks. I've seen all sorts of people try to get into his head. It can't be done. As for Xavier being a chump, look at the scans again. Xavier linked 8 billion Skrull minds to convince Galactus to not eat that planet (that's two billion more than the Earth). And needing Cerebro? Come on. It's just a tool. I use a knife during dinner time, but I could easy eat my steak without it. More feats though? Okay, here's his epic battle with the Dark Phoenix. Yes, Jean Grey was doing all she could to help him, but keep in mind that this is the Dark Phoenix here (the one who could eat stars for breakfast):http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/6505/z2dc3.jpghttp://img358.imageshack.us/img358/1282/z3fl0.jpghttp://img358.imageshack.us/img358/4975/z4hp1.jpg And needing Cerebro to find people. Paleese, check out his psychic reach here:http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7262/z4lo7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Pymp(mex) Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Actually, you're wrong. Again. From the wiki itself: Healing Factor: In the extreme event that Superman is harmed, either by an alien matching his own strength or other occurence, he has been shown to have the ability to heal almost instantaneously from any wound, assuming that the process is not impeded from some outside factor i.e. Kryptonite. This "healing factor" is supplemented by his stores of solar energy and also seems to be an unconscious ability, as Superman does not seem to have the ability to control when he heals and when he doesn't. Much like a human has no control over their immune system. See how it says almost instantaneously? Its at least on par. Superman doesn't gain stamina and durability past his limits, Hulk goes beyond them. Normal Hulk loses, but WWHulk is just as smart as Banner(Almost) has mastered his anger to use it as a tool to power him up like a SSJ does kinda of. Not saying Superman will lose, just not get koed as you imply, but everyone else is toast, Black Adam is powered by gods, well Hulk constantly goes toe to toe with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 WWHulk is just as smart as Banner(Almost). How exactly do you figure that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Superman doesn't gain stamina and durability past his limits, Hulk goes beyond them. Normal Hulk loses, but WWHulk is just as smart as Banner(Almost) has mastered his anger to use it as a tool to power him up like a SSJ does kinda of. Not saying Superman will lose, just not get koed as you imply, but everyone else is toast, Black Adam is powered by gods, well Hulk constantly goes toe to toe with them.Superman's stamina is actually limitless. Superhuman Stamina: Superman has the ability to maintain continuous strenuous physical action for an undefined period. Theoretically, most incarnations of the character has unlimited stamina as his enhanced nourishment is produced from the solar energy his cells process. Superman like other Kryptonians does not get tired[300] and does not need to eat or sleep and can be sustained on Solar energy alone[301]. He can also hold his breath for an undefined duration. The times when he could get tired would be I assume when he's just been in a serious fight, or he overexerts himself. And if you could please, prove the Hulk actually surviving the force of a Supernova. Superman survived one unscathed, other than being KO'd. And no, World War Hulk is not as smart as Banner, the only thing he's gained in this incarnation is tactical and strategical planning abilities. Superman WILL knock the Hulk out, and seriously, you're overrating World War Hulk, he has NOTHING that can injure the likes of Black Adam. If you want an example, Super Boy Prime, who's amongst the beings in DC for being incredibly powerful in super strength, close to the top, couldn't injure Black Adam. How is Hulk going to do the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 And if you could please, prove the Hulk actually surviving the force of a Supernova. Superman survived one unscathed, other than being KO'd.I think he is taking abot when the Human Torch blasted Hulk full force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 If that was actually the same as a Supernova, the entire planet would be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Thank you I would like to thank god and my mom, with out them I wouldn't be here. lol um ok first of buddy, Hulk is almost immune to Telepathic powers, you know even less of what I know about what we know( lol sorry I am being lame) but Hulk is incredibly resistant to mind powers, ask Prof X, ask Strange or anyone else that has tried. MMH is not more powerful than Hulk, sorry no way no how. So now Marvel is as powerful as Superman?I am sorry bro, you call it ignorance, I call it opinion, and your opinion is way too bias. Stop saying light speed, as if they go light speed every second of their lives, as many people have said Hulk's power is not just strength, he increases his speed and stamina and durability, and healing. LOL. MMH doesn't need mind powers. He is more powerful than Professor X mentally. And Marvel is easily on par with non-watered down supes. You didn't disapprove the Black Adam, and Martian Manhunter easily removes Hulk from the battlefield. Hulk loses all but flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 LOL. MMH doesn't need mind powers. He is more powerful than Professor X mentally. And Marvel is easily on par with non-watered down supes. You didn't disapprove the Black Adam, and Martian Manhunter easily removes Hulk from the battlefield. Hulk loses all but flash.Hulk loses to all. Once again Flash immobolizes Hulk then hits him with a few IMPs and it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Pymp(mex) Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 How exactly do you figure that? He retains all his abilities, knew how to fight certain people, not just punches and slaps. He thinks as he is fighting, and he can control his anger, so not just hate will trigger his powers, now a thought of the pain of loss can make him go world breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Yeah, uh, that's tactics and strategy. And he learned to focus his rage from Hiroim. The two does not equate him to being nearly as smart as Banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Superman doesn't gain stamina and durability past his limits, Hulk goes beyond them. Normal Hulk loses, but WWHulk is just as smart as Banner(Almost) has mastered his anger to use it as a tool to power him up like a SSJ does kinda of. Not saying Superman will lose, just not get koed as you imply, but everyone else is toast, Black Adam is powered by gods, well Hulk constantly goes toe to toe with them. In PIS encounters. Lets asses the fight. Strength:Black Adam, easily. To come close to matching Black Adam in strength, he will have to be mindless with rage. Edge:Adam Speed:Adam, easily. Hulk will only touch Adam if Adam lets him. Edge:Adam Durability:Adam cannot be hurt by physical damage. At all. Name a single of Hulks attacks that do not rely on physical damage. Edge:Adam Experience: Adam. Hulk has not been battling as long as Adam. Edge:Adam Skill:Adam is highly skilled, but so is Hulk. Adam, but ever so slightly. Edge:Adam Versatility:Hulk is strong. Adam is strong, fast, skilled, and an incredibly powerful sorcerer, on doctor strings level. Edge:Adam Opponents beaten: Adam killed Amazo, and fought virtually the entire superhero community. Hulk has beaten impressive foes, but most of this encounters were PIS and comic mechanics. Edge: Adam Ways to win: Hulk can't hurt Adam. Adam can kill Hulk so many ways it is not even funny. Edge: Adam As for Hulk fighting gods, I assume you mean Thor. In a non comic mechanic fight, Thor would walk all over Hulk. And Adam would beat Thor. WINNER:Adam stomps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Pymp(mex) Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 -chomp- one. It doesn't matter who has fought longer, Hulk kills people that have fought longer all the time. Logan has fought longer, Thor has, etc. Black Adam is nigh-invulnerable, not completely, in fact everywhere I read about him I see it say virtually invulnerable, which means not completely. Speed-Black Adam is faster, yes, but he still needs to get in close, and with Hulk getting mad nearly on command, will be able to grab him. Comic Mechanics? dude Hulk has beaten these people. and Thor's own magic can't do shrap to Hulk. I can say comic mechanics on Black Adam. It's not that Hulk will stomp, but Hulk has one thing that all these people don't. the ability to get more powerful than them. He is WWH, which means his base level is higher than anything Hulk has ever been. Meaning that Hulk is already wtf levels. Sure Superman can dance all day with him, but if anyone wants to space dump him, they will have to get in that close, and being grabbed by Hulk will not be good. I know if Doomsday can break Superman's arm, Hulk can crush his skull in. Black Adam is powerful, but even the likes of Thanos thinks twice when fighting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 -chomp- one. It doesn't matter who has fought longer, Hulk kills people that have fought longer all the time. Logan has fought longer, Thor has, etc. Black Adam is nigh-invulnerable, not completely, in fact everywhere I read about him I see it say virtually invulnerable, which means not completely. Speed-Black Adam is faster, yes, but he still needs to get in close, and with Hulk getting mad nearly on command, will be able to grab him. Comic Mechanics? dude Hulk has beaten these people. and Thor's own magic can't do shrap to Hulk. I can say comic mechanics on Black Adam. It's not that Hulk will stomp, but Hulk has one thing that all these people don't. the ability to get more powerful than them. He is WWH, which means his base level is higher than anything Hulk has ever been. Meaning that Hulk is already wtf levels. Sure Superman can dance all day with him, but if anyone wants to space dump him, they will have to get in that close, and being grabbed by Hulk will not be good. I know if Doomsday can break Superman's arm, Hulk can crush his skull in. Black Adam is powerful, but even the likes of Thanos thinks twice when fighting him.I can't tell if you are trolling or just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Pymp(mex) Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I can't tell if you are trolling or just stupid because I disagree with you? or because I am stating an argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bladephyre Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 because I disagree with you? or because I am stating an argument? I think it is more for the tremendous lack of logic, comic knowledge and scales of power. Power levels: Hulk is strong, VERY strong. He can lift, in WWH state, 300 tons at base, and if given time and a source of anger can increase it even further. Hulk is fast enough to catch extremely fast humans and much faster than he looks. Hulk has crazy fast regeneration. HOWEVER: Flash: Faster than anything in the Marvel universe short of cosmics. Hulk has never dealt with anyone even close to that level of speed. Hulk as major trouble hitting people like Wolverine and Spiderman. Hulk however is nothing new to anyone on the DC side, huge, brutish, powerhouses are about one a month there. Flash will need to be a little creative but Hulk is no issue here. Captain Marvel: Almost as fast as flash, MUCH stronger than Hulk will start out, has invulnerability on Superman level, and is well versed in magic. However sometimes Marvel does something that will get him in trouble. Hulk still loses but he at leasts has maybe a 5% chance to win here. He is also plenty fast enough to space dump Hulk long before he could react to him. Superman: Yeah umm everything about Captain Marvel but swap the magic for a few other things and take out the stupid mistake flaws. A fully mindless enraged hulk would still have issues putting down Supes much less one that has to make it long enough to get that angry. Space dump is also an option here. Martian Manhunter: Umm Intangibility... do whatever he wants. Mental powers that are plenty strong enough to give Hulk issues. GL: If this is generic no name GL Hulk might have a chance, if this is one that is actually well known (Kyle, Guy, Killowog, ect.) they throw him around like he is nothing. Gamma manipulation, force fields, constructs, whatever they want to really. Black Adam: This is the Biggest stomp of the bunch. He takes full on punches in the face from a pissed off Superboy Prime and does not care. Take all the physical abilities from Superman, make the defense better, give him magical backup, actual fighting skill, and take out any sense of fighting fair, and mercy. Hulk gets beat down like a punk. Hulk has 0% chance to win against GL (assuming a named one), MMH, Flash, Superman, and Black Adam, and only a VERY small chance against Captain Marvel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Pymp(mex) Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I think it is more for the tremendous lack of logic, comic knowledge and scales of power. Just saying I know I have some good facts in my head, I do own more than 300 comics, but that doesn't count right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 because I disagree with you? or because I am stating an argument?No this is why:I think it is more for the tremendous lack of logic, comic knowledge and scales of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Just saying I know I have some good facts in my head, I do own more than 300 comics, but that doesn't count right?It doesn't cout if you don't know how to use that knowledge. I have a bunch of guns, but they are useless if I don't know how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SSGoku Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I still don't see how Flash can beat Hulk. I mean, from what I know of him, he's not gonna bust out the speed stealing and IMP right away, right? He'll try some other stuff first, all of which will fail. It shouldn't be to long before he makes a mistake and Hulk gets his hands on him. And even if Flash does break out the IMPs soon, it'll take, like 10 of them within a span of 10 seconds to take hulk out. Hulk on the other hand gets in one punch, and Flash is out You know, it's ironic. Wally West is the most powerful Flash, yet, he has the least likely chances of winning, because he'll probably spend some time playing around with Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 I still don't see how Flash can beat Hulk. I mean, from what I know of him, he's not gonna bust out the speed stealing and IMP right away, right? He'll try some other stuff first, all of which will fail. It shouldn't be to long before he makes a mistake and Hulk gets his hands on him. And even if Flash does break out the IMPs soon, it'll take, like 10 of them within a span of 10 seconds to take hulk out. Hulk on the other hand gets in one punch, and Flash is out You know, it's ironic. Wally West is the most powerful Flash, yet, he has the least likely chances of winning, because he'll probably spend some time playing around with Hulk.In a comic yeah he would take his time with Hulk, CBUB is not a comic book so the characters aren't restricted, they are here to win or lose, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Actually... Since people LOVE to compare Hulk to Doomsday, chances are Wally will see the threat as similar to Doomsday...and go in full out serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SSGoku Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 In a comic yeah he would take his time with Hulk, CBUB is not a comic book so the characters aren't restricted, they are here to win or lose, that's it.True, but its still Wally's character to not go full force right from the start. On the CBUB, were not restricted by comic mechanics, but we are still restricted to the characters personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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