The Imperium of Man vs. Marvel Earth

[Guest the atom]

Imperium: 2000 Retribution class Battleships, 2500 Emperor Class Battleships, 3000 Apocalypse Class Battleships, 4000 Imperial Vengeance Class Grand Cruisers, 5000 Imperial Cruisers, 7000 Light Cruisers, 15 000 Sword Class Frigate, 15 000 Cobra Class Destroyer, 15 000 Falchion Class Escort.

 

All have full fighter/bomber compliments and are outfitted with full exterminautus arrays.

 

The fleet will emerge just outside of the Moon's orbit.

 

Marvel Earth: 10 minute warning to all Heros. Everything is current.

 

Objectives: The Imperial fleet must preform exterminautus on both Earth and it's moon. All or most superhumans are to be completely wiped out.

 

Marvel Earth must wipe out the incoming fleet.

[Guest sirmethos]

Marvel Earth wins.

 

Legion, X-man, Mister M, Thor, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum

[Guest LoneWolf]

So like 68,500 ships, each with atmosphere destroying bombs? That will be hard for Marvel Earth. Thor, the Avengers and all the Omega Class mutants who are invulnerable will eventually destroy the entire fleet. But I doubt they can stop earth from being annihilated with 10 minutes notice. Cmon, Magneto with a few nukes made them freak out...

[Indolent]

Think about what you just said.

 

Magneto.

 

Magneto would literally prevent this.

 

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[The Void]

Marvel Earth stomp this...

 

Zeus, the serpent or Legion can solo...

[Guest LoneWolf]

Think about what you just said.

 

Magneto.

 

Magneto would literally prevent this.

 

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Mmmmm don't think so. An armada this size would be able to destroy about any Marvel universe alien empire completely. Shiar, Kree, Skrull etc.. or probably all of them at once. 1,000 of the main battle ships could destroy a solar system very fast and we have 68,500 vessels altogether. Only the completely invulnerable Marvel beings will likely survive. Or those who can teleport or otherwise escape from Earth.

[Guest LoneWolf]

It really comes down to whether or not Earth based cosmic are included. The Asgardians, Inhumans, Eternals, Heralds of Galactus etc... Any Mystic beings, Also... Will the villains help defend? How about the ones who already wanted to destroy Earth? Maybe they will try and make a deal with the Imperium?

[Guest sultan]

Mmmmm don't think so. An armada this size would be able to destroy about any Marvel universe alien empire completely. Shiar, Kree, Skrull etc.. or probably all of them at once. 1,000 of the main battle ships could destroy a solar system very fast and we have 68,500 vessels altogether. Only the completely invulnerable Marvel beings will likely survive. Or those who can teleport or otherwise escape from Earth.

There is never too much metal for Mags. I reckon he could rip them all apart pretty quickly. Threat over.

[Guest sirmethos]

It really comes down to whether or not Earth based cosmic are included. The Asgardians, Inhumans, Eternals, Heralds of Galactus etc... Any Mystic beings, Also... Will the villains help defend? How about the ones who already wanted to destroy Earth? Maybe they will try and make a deal with the Imperium?

 

Any earth based reality warper could easily take care of it(like Legion or Mister M) or a Telekinetic with nigh-unlimited energy at his disposal(like X-man), high level sorcerers(like Dr. Strange or Dr. Doom). High level telepaths could take over the minds of some of the people on the ships, turning the ships against each other(X-man, Legion, Emma Frost, Exodus, etc.). People with powerful enough destructive powers could take out several, if not all, of the ships as well(Thor, Blue Marvel, Uru-Armor Iron Man, Quasar, etc. etc.). Teleporters could deposit some of the more powerful people directly into the ships, or in some cases simply go there themselves, and either destroy the ships from within, or simply take over the ships.(Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister, Gateway, Exodus, etc.).

 

 

There are so many ways for Marvel Earth to destroy the fleet that it's not even funny. And I have only scratched the surface of the people who could take care of the problem alone, let alone working together.

[Guest MarvelFan15]

Mmmmm don't think so. An armada this size would be able to destroy about any Marvel universe alien empire completely. Shiar, Kree, Skrull etc.. or probably all of them at once. 1,000 of the main battle ships could destroy a solar system very fast and we have 68,500 vessels altogether. Only the completely invulnerable Marvel beings will likely survive. Or those who can teleport or otherwise escape from Earth.

 

You realize that each of the empires you mentioned, Shi'Ar, Kree, and the Skrulls, each have an empire with influence at least the size of an entire Galaxy, right?

[Guest the atom]

It really comes down to whether or not Earth based cosmic are included. The Asgardians, Inhumans, Eternals, Heralds of Galactus etc... Any Mystic beings, Also... Will the villains help defend? How about the ones who already wanted to destroy Earth? Maybe they will try and make a deal with the Imperium?

 

Anything Earth-based is involved, but none of the Heralds to my knowledge.

[Guest the atom]

Think about what you just said.

 

Magneto.

 

Magneto would literally prevent this.

 

-.-

 

Not if they zorch North America from a few hundred thousand kilometers away with lances he won't.

[Guest Jason Redfield]

I'm not an expert on comic book characters like Magneto, nor on the Imperium. But I think that simply saying "Magneto can stop the entire attack because the ships are made of metal" is a bit silly. You're talking about nearly 70,000 different huge ships, possibly approaching the planet from different angles, in various groups, all capable of destroying entire continents with a casual volley of their weapon systems (or so I've heard...).

 

There are just so many ships with so much firepower, and they're well-versed in destroying planets. I don't doubt there are Marvel heroes capable of destroying the fleet, but even if they're going light-speed and knocking about ten ships a second, I don't think it'll be enough.

[Guest sirmethos]

There are just so many ships with so much firepower, and they're well-versed in destroying planets. I don't doubt there are Marvel heroes capable of destroying the fleet, but even if they're going light-speed and knocking about ten ships a second, I don't think it'll be enough.

 

 

 

Any earth based reality warper could easily take care of it(like Legion or Mister M) or a Telekinetic with nigh-unlimited energy at his disposal(like X-man), high level sorcerers(like Dr. Strange or Dr. Doom). High level telepaths could take over the minds of some of the people on the ships, turning the ships against each other(X-man, Legion, Emma Frost, Exodus, etc.). People with powerful enough destructive powers could take out several, if not all, of the ships as well(Thor, Blue Marvel, Uru-Armor Iron Man, Quasar, etc. etc.). Teleporters could deposit some of the more powerful people directly into the ships, or in some cases simply go there themselves, and either destroy the ships from within, or simply take over the ships.(Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister, Gateway, Exodus, etc.).

 

 

There are so many ways for Marvel Earth to destroy the fleet that it's not even funny. And I have only scratched the surface of the people who could take care of the problem alone, let alone working together.

[Guest the atom]

Then what exactly was the big deal about the Annihilation wave? Aside from Annihilus their ships sucked, and their weapons were short ranged and were more or less as powerful as your average sidewinder missile, and yet they stood a very real chance of wiping out everything.

 

Hell even three or four Heralds working at once couldn't kill them all fast enough.

[Guest sirmethos]

Then what exactly was the big deal about the Annihilation wave? Aside from Annihilus their ships sucked, and their weapons were short ranged and were more or less as powerful as your average sidewinder missile, and yet they stood a very real chance of wiping out everything.

 

Hell even three or four Heralds working at once couldn't kill them all fast enough.

 

http://www.electricferret.com/forum/index....showtopic=13111

 

That should give you the answer to your question

[Indolent]

I never said Magneto affected the ships, jeez.

 

There are MANY other applications Mags has with his powers...

 

And he can boost them to insane levels by using Earth's electromagnetic field was my point.

 

Its not only metal he affects, people.

[Guest the atom]

http://www.electricferret.com/forum/index....showtopic=13111

 

That should give you the answer to your question

 

Uh huh.....so they're clearly much much stronger then we saw them to be in every observable instance......because? Or are you trying to suggest that the Heralds were holding back for some reason?

[Guest the atom]

I never said Magneto affected the ships, jeez.

 

There are MANY other applications Mags has with his powers...

 

And he can boost them to insane levels by using Earth's electromagnetic field was my point.

 

Its not only metal he affects, people.

 

I'm still not sure how any of this is supposed to help him, or anybody else when it would take the fleet all of seconds to remove North America, and the crust it sits on from the face of the planet.

[kainboa]

The heroes have 10 minutes warning, it should be fairly simple to create a forcefield which can withstand the force of the Imperiums weapons

[Indolent]

Kinda sad when it takes a few people to point it out. >.>

 

Course, Magneto doesn't have to be the only one.

 

He could do it though.

[The Void]

Legion solos...

[Guest Jason Redfield]

Heh, like I said, not an expert on Marvel Earth. I really meant to direct my comment more towards the Magneto issue, however. Sorry if I misunderstood, Jaeger, but your first post came off sounding like Mags could solo the situation easily.

 

Cosmics and reality benders should solve the situation given this warning, though.

[Guest sirmethos]

Uh huh.....so they're clearly much much stronger then we saw them to be in every observable instance......because? Or are you trying to suggest that the Heralds were holding back for some reason?

 

If you look only at the content of the comic(annihilation wave) then no, I doubt they were 'holding back' as such, but if you look at it from outside, then yes. The writers of the comic was not using anywhere NEAR the full potential of the Heralds(as well as Quasar and Nova-Prime).

 

 

The story plot required a show of force, i.e. the defeat of the Heralds(and more), before the Annihilation wave was finally defeated. It would have been a boring story if Silver Surfer, Quasar or Nova-Prime had simply destroyed the armada, despite the fact that it would actually be well within their capabilities to do so.

[Guest Bladephyre]

I think the main issue here would be range. I am not a expert on WH40K but I am pretty sure they would be very far away when this started, and they would be VERY spread out. they would be spread out over the size of a moon maybe more.