Superman Family vs Z-Fighters

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Didn't Goku get hit by that same lightning bolt after he dodged the first time? If he could evade it, then why did it hit him afterwards? Because if he's like totally capable of evading lightning bolts, he should be able to do it again within a split moment, right? o.o

He was celebrating, and wasn't paying attention.

[Guest sirmethos]

As a quick add-on to my last post, if DBZ doesn't follow basic laws of physics, then a power level of 197.368.421 is required to reach the speed of light, so assuming a base SS1 level as being the same as Goku when he fought Frieza on Namek, it would require at least SS3 to beat Kryptonians(though they(SS3) would do it effortlessly).

[Guest tomisntblue]

(though they(SS3) would do it effortlessly).

 

Nothing to do with weather or not SS3 Goku would beat Superman, but that last bit there, is the basic workings of DBZ.

[Guest Djgambrell]

As a quick add-on to my last post, if DBZ doesn't follow basic laws of physics, then a power level of 197.368.421 is required to reach the speed of light, so assuming a base SS1 level as being the same as Goku when he fought Frieza on Namek, it would require at least SS3 to beat Kryptonians(though they(SS3) would do it effortlessly).

Wait. Did you just say a ssj3 beats a kryptonian?

[Guest sirmethos]

Wait. Did you just say a ssj3 beats a kryptonian?

 

That depends on whether or not DBZ follows basics laws of physics.

 

Try actually reading the few posts I've made in this topic. If DBZ follows basic laws of physics, then DBZ characters are not faster than light, and they have no chance against a Kryptonian. Otherwise, yes, a SS3 would beat a Kryptonian(post-crisis).

[Guest Djgambrell]

That depends on whether or not DBZ follows basics laws of physics.

 

Try actually reading the few posts I've made in this topic. If DBZ follows basic laws of physics, then DBZ characters are not faster than light, and they have no chance against a Kryptonian. Otherwise, yes, a SS3 would beat a Kryptonian(post-crisis).

Sorry saw pymp and zoned out. And I would say no considering some of the things they do but what do I know?

[Guest shellsbut]

As a quick add-on to my last post, if DBZ doesn't follow basic laws of physics, then a power level of 197.368.421 is required to reach the speed of light, so assuming a base SS1 level as being the same as Goku when he fought Frieza on Namek, it would require at least SS3 to beat Kryptonians(though they(SS3) would do it effortlessly).

 

 

yes exactly what i said. SS3 characters easily beat Superman family

[OMFG]

yes exactly what i said. SS3 characters easily beat Superman family

That depends on whether or not DBZ follows basics laws of physics.

 

Try actually reading the few posts I've made in this topic. If DBZ follows basic laws of physics, then DBZ characters are not faster than light, and they have no chance against a Kryptonian. Otherwise, yes, a SS3 would beat a Kryptonian(post-crisis).

[Guest sirmethos]

yes exactly what i said. SS3 characters easily beat Superman family

 

 

Reading, you should try it.

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[C.T.]

Fail?

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Yep

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

Sorry saw pymp and zoned out. And I would say no considering some of the things they do but what do I know?

 

 

Why what did I say?

[Guest SSGoku]

I can't believe this is still going on. lol

[Guest force_echo]

I've thought that as well, but most of the Kryptonians' speed is crazy nowadays. Superman, Steel, Supergirl and Superboy are all FTL going all out.

lolwut? The last time I checked, Steel couldn't even break the sound barrier, forget the speed of light.

 

-DBZ math-

I don't understand why you think the relationship between power level and speed is completely porportional. How do you know its not a x^1/2 function? What if it follows the graph of the calculus homework I had to do yesterday and its ((sinθ*(1cosθ1)^1/2)/(sinθ+7/5))-2sinθ+2? Yes, Goku's speed as a relationship to his powerlevel could form the graph of a heart.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

I don't understand why you think the relationship between power level and speed is completely porportional. How do you know its not a x^1/2 function? What if it follows the graph of the calculus homework I had to do yesterday and its ((sinθ*(1cosθ1)^1/2)/(sinθ+7/5))-2sinθ+2? Yes, Goku's speed as a relationship to his powerlevel could form the graph of a heart.

In Dragonball Z when they increase their power level, they increase every thing. Strength, ki, speed, durability, etc.

 

So, still waiting on someone to disprove their speed. As far as I am concerned they are above light speed.

 

Again the math is there, plus the fact King Kai could track Goku's ship that was light speed, but couldn't track Goku and Frieza when they were fighting because of their speed <.<

[Guest sirmethos]

In Dragonball Z when they increase their power level, they increase every thing. Strength, ki, speed, durability, etc.

 

So, still waiting on someone to disprove their speed. As far as I am concerned they are above light speed.

 

Again the math is there, plus the fact King Kai could track Goku's ship that was light speed, but couldn't track Goku and Frieza when they were fighting because of their speed <.<

 

Actually, Kai had no problem tracking Goku and Frieza when they were fighting. That particular one is another 'anime' thing, if you try reading the manga, there is nothing about having trouble tracking them.

 

As for 'disproving', you can't prove a negative.

 

The closest thing you can do, is point out that there is absolutely no evidence/proof of them being faster than light, nor any direct statements saying they are.

 

Regardless, instead of waiting for people to prove a negative(that they can not move faster than light), it would be much simpler to simply prove that they do move faster than light. If you can provide any kind of proof of course

 

 

As I already said, them being FTL or not, depends on whether or not DBZ follows basic laws of physics. If they do, then they are not capable of moving FTL. If they don't, then they are considerably faster than light.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Actually, Kai had no problem tracking Goku and Frieza when they were fighting. That particular one is another 'anime' thing, if you try reading the manga, there is nothing about having trouble tracking them.

 

As for 'disproving', you can't prove a negative.

 

The closest thing you can do, is point out that there is absolutely no evidence/proof of them being faster than light, nor any direct statements saying they are.

 

Regardless, instead of waiting for people to prove a negative(that they can not move faster than light), it would be much simpler to simply prove that they do move faster than light. If you can provide any kind of proof of course

 

 

As I already said, them being FTL or not, depends on whether or not DBZ follows basic laws of physics. If they do, then they are not capable of moving FTL. If they don't, then they are considerably faster than light.

Why wouldn't the math be enough proof? It makes sense to me.

[C.T.]

Because DBZ itself is illogical and doesn't make sense, and thus math can't work with it.

[Guest sirmethos]

Why wouldn't the math be enough proof? It makes sense to me.

 

The math only works if DBZ doesn't follow basic laws of physics(in which case, as I've already pointed out, SS4 would be at least, roughly, 95 thousand times the speed of light).

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

The math only works if DBZ doesn't follow basic laws of physics(in which case, as I've already pointed out, SS4 would be at least, roughly, 95 thousand times the speed of light).

When the moon was destroyed(twice) it had no effects on the Earth. I don't know if that is physics, but I figured I should throw that out there.

[Guest victim36]

Typically physics don't hold true in most situations involving characters at this level or greater. To many restrictions on what they can legitematly(sp) do.

[Helen C]

I should check the CBUB more.