Vegito Vs. Silver Surfer

[Guest DataSnake]

Actually, I was missing two jumps, namely the jump from Raditz to Nappa (Piccolo is Raditz's equal when he fights Nappa, and he just can't compare) and from Super Buu (who is able to keep pace with SSJ3 Gotenks, who is in turn at least as fast as Kid Gohan) to Mystic Buu (who is as fast as Mystic Gohan, who completely manhandled Super Buu). This puts the final reaction speed at 96,889,010,407,000 m/s, or 323,186.95c. Bear in mind, this is still a very low-end calculation, although I consider it a reasonable one.

[Skirmisher]

Actually, I was missing two jumps, namely the jump from Raditz to Nappa (Piccolo is Raditz's equal when he fights Nappa, and he just can't compare) and from Super Buu (who is able to keep pace with SSJ3 Gotenks, who is in turn at least as fast as Kid Gohan) to Mystic Buu (who is as fast as Mystic Gohan, who completely manhandled Super Buu). This puts the final reaction speed at 96,889,010,407,000 m/s, or 323,186.95c. Bear in mind, this is still a very low-end calculation, although I consider it a reasonable one.

The missing jumps do not really matter, you've given an already Extremely high Minimum... I doubt that even the Flash with his wtf speed feats could get anywhere near that.

[Guest catnips47]

Brolly had a technique where he trapped air around him in a Ki Shield... similar, but I don't think Vegito knows that one.

 

I'm probably a bit late now

 

I believe vegito has a similar ability

When he enters the innards of buu, we find him within his shield. This shield was not letting in any magic, any extremely acidic gastric juices and therefore oxygen a swell.

 

Vegito must have been able to augment ate a flow of oxygen within this shield, as he showed that he wasn't out of air.

[Guest catnips47]

The missing jumps do not really matter, you've given an already Extremely high Minimum... I doubt that even the Flash with his wtf speed feats could get anywhere near that.

 

I have done a calculation that shows vegeta was able to move (at minimum) faster than the speed of sound whilst weighing 110.25 tonnes without being a super saiyan and only being a quater of the strength he was when he fused.

 

But it probably ain't needed after that snake guys comment.

[Guest DataSnake]

Further modifications:

If we replace Master Shen with Kid Goku, who was fast enough to dodge lightning, which moves at 60,000 m/s and reduce a to 4 (as per this post), that would put our final number at (minimum) (4^13)*60,000 = 4,026,531,840,000 m/s, or 13,431c. Bear in mind, some of the jumps (especially from Vegeta to Burter, and Burter to Goku) should be much larger, meaning this calc still errs on the low side.

[Guest Acecool]

Now, before everyone starts yelling, "Silver Surfer turns him into a rock." or something like that, remember that Buu turned Vegito into a Jaw Breaker and Vegito retained all of his power. This kind of makes Silver Surfers transmutation powers mute.

 

So, who wins this battle? Vegito can go up to SS2 if he needs to and Silver Surfer can call upon 2% of Galactus' powers if he needs to.

 

 

Surfer in a stomp. He is way too fast. Remember brolly died on the surface of the sun. Surfer can play with suns and use blasts that make the surface of the sun feel like an arctic night.

[Guest DataSnake]

Surfer in a stomp. He is way too fast. Remember brolly died on the surface of the sun. Surfer can play with suns and use blasts that make the surface of the sun feel like an arctic night.

 

Surfer is NOT faster than Vegito, as I have already shown.

 

Also, regarding energy output, the sun's energy output is about 90 billion megatons per second. That's a lot, but Freeza in his first form was capable of creating a blast with a power of approximately 143,000,000,000 billion megatons. His "mecha freeza" form was well over 200 times as strong than that, and Future Trunks deflected Mecha Freeza's death ball with ONE HAND. Bear in mind that compared to Vegito, Future Trunks may as well be a termite. Also, Broly is non-canon.

[Guest ricrery]

Surfer is NOT faster than Vegito, as I have already shown.

 

Also, regarding energy output, the sun's energy output is about 90 billion megatons per second. That's a lot, but Freeza in his first form was capable of creating a blast with a power of approximately 143,000,000,000 billion megatons. His "mecha freeza" form was well over 200 times as strong than that, and Future Trunks deflected Mecha Freeza's death ball with ONE HAND. Bear in mind that compared to Vegito, Future Trunks may as well be a termite. Also, Broly is non-canon.

 

 

What? DBZ early characters like Frieza attack the core, not the planet surface, as shown when Frieza's attack punctures Planet Vegeta.

[Guest tomisntblue]

Also, Broly is non-canon.

 

Beside, Broly dies cause of the sun's power + the full power of Goku, Gohan, and Goten + a small blast from Trunks. the sun didn't kill him, it just helped.

[Guest silversurfer092]

lOlz. is dis a reel queston? how does sliversurfer lose? he is so uch moer powerfl then vegtio!

[Guest boston_celtics]

The missing jumps do not really matter, you've given an already Extremely high Minimum... I doubt that even the Flash with his wtf speed feats could get anywhere near that.

 

All Datasnake did was repeat the calculations of Technomancer and WarCry. They are the same.

 

Regardless, even if DBZ chars are that fast, Surfer and Flash are faster. Flash can run at an excess of 10,000x lightspeed (look for scan of the 500,000x FTL on Herochat or killermovies) and Surfer has crossed half a million light years within seconds (also found on herochat and Killermovies).

 

Surfer has shrugged off planet-busting attacks from Korvac with no ill effects whatsoever.

 

Surfer was GREATLY upgraded after Annihilation, and all past feats are therefore amplified to great extent.

 

Turning Vegito into chocolate is one thing. Degrading his atoms into their base parts and scattering them in a black hole? That's another.

 

And, MM is right when he says Surfer's time travel feat allows for easy win. Cheap, maybe. But, in the end, he wins. And that is what's important in real life, now isn't it? Using your natural advantage and defeating weaker people?

[Guest DataSnake]

What? DBZ early characters like Frieza attack the core, not the planet surface, as shown when Frieza's attack punctures Planet Vegeta.

It then explodes in the core with enough force to overcome the gravitational binding energy of a planet ten times as massive as Earth.

 

All Datasnake did was repeat the calculations of Technomancer and WarCry. They are the same.

No. I did all the calcs MYSELF. I will admit, Tech mentioned the lightning bit, and Skirm mentioned a multiplier of 4 for FTS, but beyond that it was all my own work.

[Guest boston_celtics]

It then explodes in the core with enough force to overcome the gravitational binding energy of a planet ten times as massive as Earth.

 

No. I did all the calcs MYSELF. I will admit, Tech mentioned the lightning bit, and Skirm mentioned a multiplier of 4 for FTS, but beyond that it was all my own work.

 

Yes, you did do the calculations yourself. But they are the same as those done before. On the old CBUB.