Guest skadoosh Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles from the film Troy, hes not invincible, just "the greatest warrior ever born", as stated at the beginning of the film, armed with his sword, shield, armor, and a few spears. vs Batman from the film The Dark Knight, hes only had about a year of experience as Batman, but several years of training, armed with his Bat-suit and belt from The Dark Knight, with his Batarangs, grapnel-gun, etc. They are fighting in the Colosseum during the day. They cannot leave the Colosseum. The fight is to the death/KO. Who wins and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z451 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles from the film Troy, hes not invincible, just "the greatest warrior ever born", as stated at the beginning of the film, armed with his sword, shield, armor, and a few spears. vs Batman from the film The Dark Knight, hes only had about a year of experience as Batman, but several years of training, armed with his Bat-suit and belt from The Dark Knight, with his Batarangs, grapnel-gun, etc. They are fighting in the Colosseum during the day. They cannot leave the Colosseum. The fight is to the death/KO. Who wins and why?Bats. Although Achilles skill is impressive, because of Bats training and modern day equipment this turns into a slaughter for him. Even the neo realistic Dark Knight version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles kills without hesitation. Batman(this one anyway) never kills. That alone may make all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles kills without hesitation. Batman(this one anyway) never kills. That alone may make all the difference.Achilles can't do much when he gets tazed or tear gassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Thanks for the opinions, dudes. Im glad the fact Achilles kills and Batman doesnt has been factored in so quickly, it is a big factor in this fight. Although Batman does have some good gear i was under the impression he didnt have a tazer in The Dark Knight, which i thought made the fight more fair, so lets say in this fight he doesnt have one, just the gear he has in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blue Flame Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles kills without hesitation. Batman(this one anyway) never kills. That alone may make all the difference. And Batman doesn't always fight people who are willing to kill without hesitation? Yeah they aren't probably as skilled as Achilles but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 And Batman doesn't always fight people who are willing to kill without hesitation? Yeah they aren't probably as skilled as Achilles but still. Most of Batman's enemies wont be as skilled as Achilles, but that is a very good point, thanks dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Luckily Batman is read up on his Greek Mythology and knows Achilles' Achilles Heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Luckily Batman is read up on his Greek Mythology and knows Achilles' Achilles Heel. Batman would know about that, of course, but its irrelevant. This is film version of Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles. Even in the film, I don't recall him ever getting so much as a scratch, despite the lack of a magic invulnerability. His skills are absolutely top notch, and he only got hit at the end, when he was caught by surprise. Hector was considered a great soldier, and Achilles toyed with him. I think, while Batman is undeniably more skilled than Hector , he won't have much more luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles. Even in the film, I don't recall him ever getting so much as a scratch, despite the lack of a magic invulnerability. His skills are absolutely top notch, and he only got hit at the end, when he was caught be surprise. Hector was considered a great soldier, and Achilles toyed with him. I think, while Batman is undeniably more skilled, he won't have much more luck. Very fair points. Thanks, dude. Do you think Batman's gizmos make any difference at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Very fair points. Thanks, dude. Do you think Batman's gizmos make any difference at all?Actually, I do think they'll make a difference, just not enough to give him a victory. Remember, none of Batman's gadgets are meant to be deadly, but every attack from Achilles will most likely have killing potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Actually, I do think they'll make a difference, just not enough to give him a victory. Remember, none of Batman's gadgets are meant to be deadly, but every attack from Achilles will most likely have killing potential. Again, far points. A friend of mine pointed out that if Batman's Batarangs got stuck in Achilles' shield it would just make his shield more deadly. Also, when Achilles fought Hector, in the film, every blow he delivered was meant to be fatal, had it struck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Again, far points. A friend of mine pointed out that if Batman's Batarangs got stuck in Achilles' shield it would just make his shield more deadly. Also, when Achilles fought Hector, in the film, every blow he delivered was meant to be fatal, had it struck....That fight was epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Pymp(mex) Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 It is safe to assume Achilles is peak human. Batman is as well so physically they are pretty even, with Batman being slighty stronger. Achilles should have his shield and his spear, with the gladius or that short sword as back up. (it was seen that Achilles has superb aim with that spear, he did kill a guy with one strike from really far away, and the guy was on a horse full stride) Batman dodges the spear, both rush in, Batman does a barrell roll to evade the sowrd, but now has a shield blocking most things Batman has. In the end I think Batman will win only because he would have him tied up, Achilles would win if it was to the death in an arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Achilles would win if it was to the death in an arena. Yeah...um...skadoosh clearly said a fight to the death in the Colosseum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 And Batman doesn't always fight people who are willing to kill without hesitation? Yeah they aren't probably as skilled as Achilles but still. Batman: "Why do you want to kill me?" Joker: "Kill you? I don't want to kill you, what would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No...you complete me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Batman: "Why do you want to kill me?" Joker: "Kill you? I don't want to kill you, what would I do without you? Go back to ripping off mob dealers? No...you complete me."Harvey had no problem shooting him point blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Harvey had no problem shooting him point blank.That, and Bane is probably going to break him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Harvey had no problem shooting him point blank. Ah, but see, that's the thing. Harvey really didn't decide to pull the trigger. Chance did. That, and Bane is probably going to break him. That, at least, is likely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Yeah...um...skadoosh clearly said a fight to the death in the Colosseum. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 ...That fight was epic. So very true. One of the most striking and well-choreographed fights in recent film, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 That, and Bane is probably going to break him. We shall see. Also, what about Achilles vs Bane? Mythological Achilles and comic-book Bane, to be specific... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 We shall see. Also, what about Achilles vs Bane? Mythological Achilles and comic-book Bane, to be specific...Achilles stomps, if it's the mythological version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason Redfield Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 My money's on Bats. If he can take on veritable armies of goons armed with automatic weapons, I like his chances against Achilles. Achilles was the best at what he did... in his time period. Batman will be a completely out-of-context problem for him. Bats is considerably more resourceful, agile, and has a full arsenal of debilitating weapons (lethal or no) at his disposal. When you've taken on martial arts masters, guys armed with military-grade weapons, and more and prevailed, a guy with a spear isn't so impressive. Yes, even one so skilled as Achilles. An example: take the best Spartan/Trojan/whatever warrior that ever existed in real-life. Bring him into an arena and pit him against a real-life, fully-equipped riot cop armed with everything from tear gas to beanbag rounds. Sure, if the riot cop tries to take down the Spartan with his baton, he's screwed. But he won't. He's going to have him crying his eyes out and coughing up his lungs from CS/OC exposure before beating him into submission. Now if you scale that little scenario to this fight, consider that the aforementioned riot cop is now a masterful martial artist, equipped with futuristic gear, and is amazing when it comes to the art of stealth. That warrior, however, is basically just some guy who is REALLY good at using a spear and a shield. That's just dandy if Batman was willing to fight him on those terms. But he isn't. He can and will maneuver, jump, and climb at will, all while wearing down Achilles with less-lethal weapons that might as well be magic to him. Then, once he has been nearly incapacitated to the point of being incapable of countering, Batman can move in and finish the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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