How much does it take?

[Guest xman4life]

Ok now certain people are bad asses in comics. And are basically unbeatable for people in their range(midnighter/zealot) or has no one on their level(darkseid)

 

So I want to know since they have no equal how much does it take to bring them down.but just barely. Like how much is just enough to take them out.

 

 

1)Darkseid

2)Midnighter

3)Zealot

4)Odin

 

 

 

Now each person make a guess and the next person can agree of tell me it's overkill or not enough and then add or subtract a character.

 

 

Ok well for Darkseid i say

Quasar,Silver Surfer, Nova Prime, Thor, Adam Warlock, and Maybe Ronan.

 

Midnighter

Northstar, quicksilver, Nightcrawler, Spiderman, and Luke Cage

 

Zealot

Warpath,Psylocke, Wolverine, Deathlok, X-23, Mantis,Ikon, Fantomex and Gamora

 

Odin

Geez mr.majestic, Sersi, green lantern(hal, guy, john, kyle, kilowag, alan), Nova Prime, Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, Quasar, and damien hellstrom, and dr.doom.(and i don't even think thats enough.

[Guest skadoosh]

Darkseid - Someone like Paralax, Phoenix, etc.

 

Midnighter - Wolverine. After a very long, difficult fight.

 

Zealot - Batman with all the information there is about her and plenty of prep-time, in a Superman-buster type armor.

 

Odin - Galactus, i guess.

[Guest xman4life]

Darkseid - Someone like Paralax, Phoenix, etc.

 

Midnighter - Wolverine. After a very long, difficult fight.

 

Zealot - Batman with all the information there is about her and plenty of prep-time, in a Superman-buster type armor.

 

Odin - Galactus, i guess.

ok with darkseid phoenix would be overkill

 

With Zealot-Batman with 1000 years pre isn't enough because her blade can go right through suoerman not to mention her magic and endless fighting skills.

 

Midnighter-Um maybe just maybe. If wolverine goes beserker then I don't think you can predict that, he fooled mister x the same way.

 

Odin-Galactus is over kill. Galactus to Odin is like Dakseid to Suerman, He would get some good shots in physically but If Darkseid really wanted to kill supes he would be dead.

[Guest Bladephyre]

Ok well for Darkseid i say

Quasar,Silver Surfer, Nova Prime, Thor, Adam Warlock, and Maybe Ronan.

 

Midnighter

Northstar, quicksilver, Nightcrawler, Spiderman, and Luke Cage

 

Zealot

Warpath,Psylocke, Wolverine, Deathlok, X-23, Mantis,Ikon, Fantomex and Gamora

 

Odin

Geez mr.majestic, Sersi, green lantern(hal, guy, john, kyle, kilowag, alan), Nova Prime, Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, Quasar, and damien hellstrom, and dr.doom.(and i don't even think thats enough.

 

I am assuming you mean all these people at once, because almost all of them get stomped on one on one.

 

Darkseid: Depends on who is better at matter manipulation, Darkseid or Silver Surfer. SS can instantly tell any weaknes to an element or energy someone has, as shown when he punked out Gladiator by sensing his weakness to Marvel rip off kryptonite. If SS can stransmute some, they win, if Darkseid can stop him, they lose.

 

Midnighter: Nightcrawler is good as dead, classic quicksilver (150MPH range) is not fast enough. Northstar is plenty fast enough but he is not the best fighter or tactician, his predictability gets him killed. Midnighter and Spiderman would be a great fight to watch but Midnighter still would probably win. Luke is a bad bad man, but he can not win this.

 

That team can not beat Zealot, unless Ikon is something really special. I am not real sure who that is.

 

Odin: Yes that team wins. Majestic alone could win that. The others are just backup.

 

EDIT: After looking up things on Ikon, no they can't win that one.

[Guest xman4life]

I am assuming you mean all these people at once, because almost all of them get stomped on one on one.

 

Darkseid: Depends on who is better at matter manipulation, Darkseid or Silver Surfer. SS can instantly tell any weaknes to an element or energy someone has, as shown when he punked out Gladiator by sensing his weakness to Marvel rip off kryptonite. If SS can stransmute some, they win, if Darkseid can stop him, they lose.

 

Midnighter: Nightcrawler is good as dead, classic quicksilver (150MPH range) is not fast enough. Northstar is plenty fast enough but he is not the best fighter or tactician, his predictability gets him killed. Midnighter and Spiderman would be a great fight to watch but Midnighter still would probably win. Luke is a bad bad man, but he can not win this.

 

That team can not beat Zealot, unless Ikon is something really special. I am not real sure who that is.

 

Odin: Yes that team wins. Majestic alone could win that. The others are just backup.

 

EDIT: After looking up things on Ikon, no they can't win that one.

Majestic beats odin alone? The same odin who can fight galactus? lol Nah Odin can creates galaxies and has willed people away before. So unless mr. majestic can do something beyond spectacular then against a nigh-omnipotent Magical god then Alone he would get demolished. Even strength level Odin is above him

 

And not classic quicksliver. The current one who is hypersonic fast.(maybe 3,000 mph fast).

 

 

Side note I'm talking about Team together against each person.

[Guest sirmethos]

Majestic beats odin alone? The same odin who can fight galactus? lol Nah Odin can creates galaxies and has willed people away before. So unless mr. majestic can do something beyond spectacular then against a nigh-omnipotent Magical god then Alone he would get demolished. Even strength level Odin is above him

 

1. Majestic's baseline strength is Pre-Crisis Superman level.

 

2. Majestic has a huge speed advantage.

 

3. Majestic is intelligent enough to create Reed Richards/Doom-level technology, and fast enough to do so in nanoseconds.

 

4. Majestic is a high-level Reality Warper, along with 2 or 3 other reality warpers, he recreated the entire Wildstorm universe.

 

and last but not least. 5. Majestic has weapons that could harm Odin(primarily the Creation Engine Blades).

[Guest Spytheman]

1. Majestic's baseline strength is Pre-Crisis Superman level.

 

2. Majestic has a huge speed advantage.

 

3. Majestic is intelligent enough to create Reed Richards/Doom-level technology, and fast enough to do so in nanoseconds.

 

4. Majestic is a high-level Reality Warper, along with 2 or 3 other reality warpers, he recreated the entire Wildstorm universe.

 

and last but not least. 5. Majestic has weapons that could harm Odin(primarily the Creation Engine Blades).

Are you saying you think he could beat Odin?

[Guest xman4life]

1. Majestic's baseline strength is Pre-Crisis Superman level.

 

2. Majestic has a huge speed advantage.

 

3. Majestic is intelligent enough to create Reed Richards/Doom-level technology, and fast enough to do so in nanoseconds.

 

4. Majestic is a high-level Reality Warper, along with 2 or 3 other reality warpers, he recreated the entire Wildstorm universe.

 

and last but not least. 5. Majestic has weapons that could harm Odin(primarily the Creation Engine Blades).

No one knows how fast Odin is. All we know is that Odin can go toe to toe with Galactus(yes he would lose)but still he can do it. Odin manhandled SS like he was nothing and no one has ever taken on Odin really. And the fact that he can will away people is the best description of his power.

[Guest sirmethos]

No one knows how fast Odin is. All we know is that Odin can go toe to toe with Galactus(yes he would lose)but still he can do it. Odin manhandled SS like he was nothing and no one has ever taken on Odin really. And the fact that he can will away people is the best description of his power.

 

Odin's speed is the same as most other Asgardians, slightly above human peak capacity. While Mr. Majestic can move at several thousand times the speed of light.

 

And as a high-level Reality Warper, Mr. Majestic can "will away people" as well.

 

As for "going toe to toe with Galactus", Odin compared to Galactus' full power, is like a normal human compared to Odin.

 

At the level that Odin went up against him, there are several characters that could go "toe to toe" with him as well, Mr. Majestic included.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Wolverine wouldn't stand a chance against Midnighter.

[Guest force_echo]

Silver Surfer alone is enough to take on Darkseid and win.

[Guest sirmethos]

Silver Surfer alone is enough to take on Darkseid and win.

 

Hardly. Darkseid is considerably more powerful than the Surfer.

[Guest force_echo]

Hardly. Darkseid is considerably more powerful than the Surfer.

Hardly. Surfer easily kicks Darkseid's ass.

[Guest Lunacyde]

Ok now certain people are bad asses in comics. And are basically unbeatable for people in their range(midnighter/zealot) or has no one on their level(darkseid)

 

So I want to know since they have no equal how much does it take to bring them down.but just barely. Like how much is just enough to take them out.

 

 

1)Darkseid

2)Midnighter

3)Zealot

4)Odin

 

 

 

Now each person make a guess and the next person can agree of tell me it's overkill or not enough and then add or subtract a character.

 

 

Ok well for Darkseid i say

Quasar,Silver Surfer, Nova Prime, Thor, Adam Warlock, and Maybe Ronan.

 

Midnighter

Northstar, quicksilver, Nightcrawler, Spiderman, and Luke Cage

 

Zealot

Warpath,Psylocke, Wolverine, Deathlok, X-23, Mantis,Ikon, Fantomex and Gamora

 

Odin

Geez mr.majestic, Sersi, green lantern(hal, guy, john, kyle, kilowag, alan), Nova Prime, Silver Surfer, Adam Warlock, Quasar, and damien hellstrom, and dr.doom.(and i don't even think thats enough.

 

To the contrary, people on this list are not bad asses. They're just powerful mofos. John McClane is a bad ass.

[Guest xman4life]

Odin's speed is the same as most other Asgardians, slightly above human peak capacity. While Mr. Majestic can move at several thousand times the speed of light.

 

And as a high-level Reality Warper, Mr. Majestic can "will away people" as well.

 

As for "going toe to toe with Galactus", Odin compared to Galactus' full power, is like a normal human compared to Odin.

 

At the level that Odin went up against him, there are several characters that could go "toe to toe" with him as well, Mr. Majestic included.

Do we even know this? He was able to snatch ss right out of the air while he was going full speed. Odin is the most powerful skyfather and if he can do the same things Herc did when given skyfather powers then I severely doubt Mr. Majestic can hang. Not to mention the whole time stopping thing, time travel,and the fact he can basically do anything. I have seen Mr. Majestic lose to people I haven't seen Odin lose to anybody.

[Guest sirmethos]

Do we even know this? He was able to snatch ss right out of the air while he was going full speed. Odin is the most powerful skyfather and if he can do the same things Herc did when given skyfather powers then I severely doubt Mr. Majestic can hang. Not to mention the whole time stopping thing, time travel,and the fact he can basically do anything. I have seen Mr. Majestic lose to people I haven't seen Odin lose to anybody.

 

SS has also been tagged by Hulk, Thanos, Red Hulk, and half a dozen other people with no particular super speed.

 

As for Odin doing the same things as Hercules. Hercules was not "given skyfather powers", during Chaos War, Hercules was more powerful than any of the Skyfathers.

 

Finally, the "whole time stopping thing, time travel and the fact he can basically do anything", Mr. Majestic can do all of that as well, being a high-level reality warper.

 

 

Hardly. Surfer easily kicks Darkseid's ass.

 

Silver Surfer has not done anything, on his own power, that surpasses Darkseid's level of power. In fact, there is pretty much nothing the Silver Surfer can do with his own powers, that Darkseid can't do as well.

 

In terms of raw power, Darkseid is considerably more powerful. On top of that, Darkseid has his motherbox that protects him against direct manipulation, and several hundred thousand years of experience. Hell, Darkseid has, in the past, destroyed beings more powerful than the Silver Surfer, with a single blast of his Omega Beams.

 

In comparison, Silver Surfer is a pacifist that tends to go into battle, initially underestimating his opponents.

 

 

And if you want to compare feats(as people on cbub tend to do), Silver Surfer's feats are generally far outclassed by those performed by Darkseid.

 

Granted, Silver Surfer could win if he has access to external power sources, like The Crunch, but then we give Darkseid access to external power sources as well, and we're back to Silver Surfer getting his arse handed to him.

[Guest Djgambrell]

Say we put Odin back in his prime. Any difference?

[Guest skadoosh]

Wolverine wouldn't stand a chance against Midnighter.

 

Yes, he would.

 

Midnighter can predict all the moves he wants, if he isnt strong or fast enough to block or dodge them, it doesnt matter. Although Midnighter is faster than Wolverine, he cant break Wolverines bones, or damage him that badly at all, so blocking him simply wouldnt be that effective. He could knock Wolverine out and then drown him, but Wolvy is an incredibly skilled combatant, and that, plus his mutant abilities, makes knocking him out pretty damn difficult. And although Midnighter will undoubtedly land more hits on Wolvy, overall, mainly due to his Adamantium claws and healing factor, Wolvy can cause a lot more damage to Midnighter than the latter can to the former.

Then theres what xman4life suggested, which is Wolvy going berserker, and therefor being unpredictable, however i think Midnighter could still predict his moves, they would just be harder to keep up with.

 

That fight is essentially an unstoppable force, Midnighter, meeting an immovable object, Wolverine. They are both capable of taking down the other, it would just be very bloody difficult for both of them.

[Guest silversurfer092]

Hardly. Darkseid is considerably more powerful than the Surfer.

 

You called?

[Guest sirmethos]

You called?

 

Yea, I figured this thread needed another retard, but now you've shown up, I guess we've filled the quota.

[Guest bigballerju]

Midnighter's computer would detect that Wolverine has a healing factor and his tactical sense may detect Wolverine's metal in his body. Depending on where there fighting and whether Midnighter would know the main weakness in Wolverine's body where he could be hurt since it has no metal Midnighter would defeat Wolverine. However if Midnighter doesn't know the weakness and he is not in a area where he could drown Logan then Midnighter is not defeating Wolverine. Midnighter's one hit strikes wouldn't work on Wolverine between Wolverine's metal and healing factor. Midnighter in addition I don't think has the strength to KO Wolverine. Now the battle computer is going to show that Wolverine can defeat Midnighter because Wolverine may have a unpredictable fighting style if Wolverine goes into Rage mode and he won't be able to calculate on the battle would go.

 

Now one important thing is if Midnighter makes the first move which he has done plenty of times then he can be defeated much easier and thats one way his battle computer can be countered.

 

Oh by the way Wolverine in a crossover with Wildcats was shown to be very capable of battling even Zealot. It was the issue with just Wolverine and Zealot.

[Guest Spytheman]

Yea, I figured this thread needed another retard, but now you've shown up, I guess we've filled the quota.

[Guest bigballerju]

Surfer vs Methos?

[Guest silversurfer092]

Yea, I figured this thread needed another retard, but now you've shown up, I guess we've filled the quota.

 

 

Hahahahaha. It's funny because your the guy who wants to know the force put upon Spider-Man's shoulder through web swinging. Not to say that you are retarded for asking that. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'd rather be retarded on a website than drown in an ocean of unbelievable nerdiness.

 

EDIT: Another thing. While you say I'm the retard, I'd like to review this thread and see who really was the dumber one. Let's compare, shall we?

 

Sirmethos starts things off by being trolled (a good job trolling too!) by force_echo. I wish I could troll like that, but I fear my reputation precedes me so no one takes me seriously anymore. I'm okay with that.

 

I come in, being silly, responding to the usage of the Silver Surfer name, despite me knowing they aren't actually talking about me. Gosh, I'm just so retarded!

 

Sirmethos takes the baton from me to be further trolled by me. Honestly, I don't know why he would even reply to my poast! For those of you who don't know, poast is now the word to refer to a troll post.

 

So really now, who's the retard?

[C.T.]

Forrest Gump? Simple Jack? Lennie Small?