AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Spawn would win easily. The Darkness (and his minions) would literally be a living power battery for him, plus he can generate intense light with his necroplasmic powers (he shot out a beam to the sky that was easily seen by all of New York City, even with light dilution).Heh, no, if Spawn won at all, it most definitely wouldn't be easy. What do you mean by living power battery? True about the light manipulation, but it's not like light is Estacado's kryptonite. A lot of his insane powers (warping and matter manipulation) are taken away. but he's still basically indestructible, can manipulate nectoplasm, has high-level regeneration, just to name a few. Also, I'm pretty sure it's sunlight that causes Estacado's power to wane, not generic light. Edit: This page lists his powers pretty accurately: http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/...Jackie+Estacado By comparison, here's Spawn's page on the same site. http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/...Profile+-+Spawn The two's powers are actually rather similar in some areas. Superhuman physical attributes, powerful regen, nectoplasm manipulation, supernatural suit that can form weapons and constructs from its own mass, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Djgambrell Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Heh, no, if Spawn won at all, it most definitely wouldn't be easy. What do you mean by living power battery? True about the light manipulation, but it's not like light is Estacado's kryptonite. A lot of his insane powers (warping and matter manipulation) are taken away. but he's still basically indestructible, can manipulate nectoplasm, has high-level regeneration, just to name a few. Also, I'm pretty sure it's intense sunlight that causes Estacado's power to wane, not generic light. Edit: This page lists his powers pretty accurately: http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/...Jackie+EstacadoIts generic the the DAMN GAMES have anything to say about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Its generic the the DAMN GAMES have anything to say about it Non-canoncity ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Djgambrell Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Non-canoncity ftw!I was just stating my anger at the first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darksaiyajin345 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Edit: This page lists his powers pretty accurately: http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/...Jackie+Estacado By comparison, here's Spawn's page on the same site. http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/...Profile+-+SpawnI never listen to anything from OSBD they are generally wrong about everything ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 I never listen to anything from OSBD they are generally wrong about everything ever.From what little I've seen of the forums over there, I'd agree with you. However, based on what I've read of Spawn and Darkness series', their wiki pages are accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Ghost Rider would be a great match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I was just stating my anger at the first game.And double "the-d" in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 Ghost Rider would be a great match.Yeah, that would be a good one as well. I've heard they fought briefly in the Hulk/Darkness crossover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Culwych Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yeah, that would be a good one as well. I've heard they fought briefly in the Hulk/Darkness crossover. Yup, I've got the comic. From memory, I think that Ghost Rider comes after The Darkness in a bar where Bruce Banner and Witchblade happen to be as well. After a brief struggle, The Darkness manages to pull GR off his bike and then helps Wb face off against Hulk. Essentially, Wb and Darkness manage to put down GR and Hulk, but you see them getting back up in the background ready for a fight when Dr Strange arrives and teleports them off somewhere. Don't know how the fight would have panned out in the end, but it is safe to say that GR definitely underestimated the Darkness at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 As in, Spawn draws on the power of darkness, Darkness' powers and minions would feed Spawn quite handily. Plus, I don't think The Darkness has any heavenly weapons to use. And I'm pretty sure, he's fairly weak against any light, from what I've read of his comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 As in, Spawn draws on the power of darkness, Darkness' powers and minions would feed Spawn quite handily. Plus, I don't think The Darkness has any heavenly weapons to use. And I'm pretty sure, he's fairly weak against any light, from what I've read of his comics.Well, Estacado's minions aren't actually composed of darkness; the way I understood it, it's more that they're biological beings he summons through the darkness, if that makes sense, so Spawn probably wouldn't be able to feed off of them. Darkness' shadow manipulation probably wouldn't have any effect against Spawn, though. I'm sure nectoplasmic attacks will damage Spawn to some extent, but you're right, Darkness can't actually kill Spawn, whereas Spawn can (eventually) get through Estacado's armor (but even then, he has powerful regeneration to deal with). I've seen Darkness fighting in his armor in illuminated areas before, apparently retaining his superhuman physical traits and nectoplasmic abilities, though he couldn't manipulate shadows or summon his minions. I'll try to find a scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Djgambrell Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Well, Estacado's minions aren't actually composed of darkness; the way I understood it, it's more that he summons them through the darkness, if that makes sense, so Spawn probably wouldn't be able to feed off of them. Darkness' shadow manipulation probably wouldn't have any effect against Spawn, though. I'm sure nectoplasmic attacks will damage Spawn to some extent, but you're right, Darkness can't actually kill Spawn, whereas Spawn can (eventually) get through Estacado's armor (but even then, he has powerful regeneration to deal with). I agree that Spawn would win in most cases, I just don't think it would be an easy fight. I've seen Darkness fighting in his armor in illuminated areas before, apparently retaining his superhuman physical traits and nectoplasmic abilities, though he couldn't manipulate shadows or summon his minions. I'll try to find a scan.They're living beings he creates. They're flesh and bone. Not Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 They're flesh and bone. Not Darkness.Is that not what I just said? Anyway, here. Gets shot with white phosphorus, doesn't do much to stop his powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Djgambrell Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I missed the word biological. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 I missed the word biological.Good, that means your eyes are fully functional, because I just edited that in. Nevertheless, that's what I meant, I just worded it poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Darkness did seem hurt a little from that blast. Darkness did pretty well against Superman as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 As in, Spawn draws on the power of darkness, Darkness' powers and minions would feed Spawn quite handily. Plus, I don't think The Darkness has any heavenly weapons to use. And I'm pretty sure, he's fairly weak against any light, from what I've read of his comics. Spawn drawing power from darkness, just means that Darkness can weaken him. Similarly to how a person who can control sunlight, would be able to weaken Superman. In his universe, Darkness is nigh-omnipotent. As long as it is dark, there is pretty much nothing that he cannot do, likewise for his counterpart the Angelus, when it's light. The Darkness, was the primordial power before creation, then God let in light and the Angelus, which sparked the creation of the universe/multiverse. The only version of Spawn that would actually defeat the Darkness, is the one empowered by The Mother, that kicked around God and the Devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Darkness can do anything in the dark however once light comes into play he is royally screwed. Plus once again Darkness doesn't have any heavenly weapons that can kill Spawn. Spawn doesn't just get more powerful from darkness he also gets powerful from the evil energies in the world. That's not even scratching Spawn's other vast powers and abilities. Spawn is more then capable of creating light to defeat Darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shellsbut Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just in case this wasn't known; the following battles have occurred in comics already: VS SupermanVS Hulk (which I think also featured Ghost Rider)VS BatmanVS WitchbladeVS Wolverine And more. Gonna have to dig these out now to read over them! Damn you CBUB for pitting me against my apathy. But on a serious note, some of the more interesting battles that have/should be done are Spawn, Human Torch, or even Sentry or Martian Manhunter might be interesting. LOL The problem is the Hulk is immune to the Darkness if you read the cross over. The Hulk against a man with a hand gun, squish dead Jackie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shellsbut Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 And Batman did not deserve that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Batman shouldn't have been able to stand that much of a chance against Darkness like he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Both Superman, Batman, Hulk and Wolverine should have lost within a page or two against Darkness. Darkness is just that much more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Both Superman, Batman, Hulk and Wolverine should have lost within a page or two against Darkness. Darkness is just that much more powerful. I agree. Even as a Superman fan I think Superman fought Darkness way too easy and Darkness even having trouble with Superman to the extent he did was unfair to the character. Thats why I loved when Witchblade beat the crap out of the JLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Culwych Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 LOL The problem is the Hulk is immune to the Darkness if you read the cross over. The Hulk against a man with a hand gun, squish dead Jackie. True, the Darkness powers essentially made Hulk angrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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