Rumble 11376 Wolverine vs. Predator

[Guest force_echo]

Yeah, too bad Wolverine will be fighting the Predator at a range which renders the plasma caster useless, and has enough skill to prevent getting his eyes stabbed by the Predator. Also, the argument that Wolverine won't be able to sniff out the Predator because he has never encountered anything like the Predator is stupid. In fact, the fact that he's never encountered the Predator HELPS Logan. All he has to do is look for the one smell he DOESN'T recognize. This will also tell him that he's facing an unknown enemy, so Wolverine will likely keep his guard up.

[RakaiThwei]

Yeah, too bad Wolverine will be fighting the Predator at a range which renders the plasma caster useless, and has enough skill to prevent getting his eyes stabbed by the Predator.

 

What makes you think that Yautja in general are terrible in hand-to-hand fighting?

 

Yautja are also skilled warriors, they are trained from a young age to know how to fight with melee weapons, ranged weapons and even hand to hand. Predators are a whole lot more skilled than you give them credit for, Echo. Primary examples of Predators being great hand to hand combatants are Dachande, Smilely, Dark, Prince and possibly Wolf as well.

 

You do realize that they have a native martial art which is called Jehdin, right? However I doubt that you would seem to even care about that because either of the following.

 

You just don't care to learn anything about the Yautja in general, even if I share whatever information from the movies, comics, games and novels with you because you just plain flat out aren't interested and choose not to care about the opposing side's arguments.

 

Now, Wolveirne does have enough skill to not have his eyes getting stabbed in but there is nothing saying that the Predator doesn't have enough skill to counter Logan's. Even YOU can admit that.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest bigballerju]

Yeah, too bad Wolverine will be fighting the Predator at a range which renders the plasma caster useless, and has enough skill to prevent getting his eyes stabbed by the Predator. Also, the argument that Wolverine won't be able to sniff out the Predator because he has never encountered anything like the Predator is stupid. In fact, the fact that he's never encountered the Predator HELPS Logan. All he has to do is look for the one smell he DOESN'T recognize. This will also tell him that he's facing an unknown enemy, so Wolverine will likely keep his guard up.

 

Wolverine has to find the Predator first so how is it that the plasma caster will be useless? The Predator will have plenty of time to shoot Wolverine with the plasma caster before they even fight as Wolverine tries to track the Predator while the Predator simply bides his time like usual as he studies Wolverine. Your assuming the Predator will from the start engage Wolverine in close combat which is untrue.

 

Yeah it would take Wolverine a while to detect the Predator's scent. You think it will be that easy for Wolverine to just detect the one scent that he isn't familar with in a jungle? I don't think so Wolverine is going to be having many scent to get through to find the Predator.

 

Also if Wolverine loses major organs, a lot of blood, burned very badly by fire or anything hotter, and more he can die. Which we have seen in the comics all three and more to be very true.

[Guest force_echo]

What makes you think that Yautja in general are terrible in hand-to-hand fighting?

 

Yautja are also skilled warriors, they are trained from a young age to know how to fight with melee weapons, ranged weapons and even hand to hand. Predators are a whole lot more skilled than you give them credit for, Echo. Primary examples of Predators being great hand to hand combatants are Dachande, Smilely, Dark, Prince and possibly Wolf as well.

 

You do realize that they have a native martial art which is called Jehdin, right? However I doubt that you would seem to even care about that because either of the following.

 

You just don't care to learn anything about the Yautja in general, even if I share whatever information from the movies, comics, games and novels with you because you just plain flat out aren't interested and choose not to care about the opposing side's arguments.

 

Now, Wolveirne does have enough skill to not have his eyes getting stabbed in but there is nothing saying that the Predator doesn't have enough skill to counter Logan's. Even YOU can admit that.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

First of all, I never said that Predators are terrible in hand to hand fighting, so how about you learn to read before trying to antagonize me.

 

No, you don't understand Wolverine's hand to hand skill. He's been fighting people with superhuman skill for countless decades. He was able to beat someone in sparring, someone who literally had an INFINITE number of ways to kill a person. You do realize that Wolverine has his own martial art that he uses as well, right? He is literally among the best fighters in the universe in a universe full of people with SUPERHUMAN fighting ability. So how about you go and read up about Wolverine before spouting your mouth about how Predators are so great at hand to hand combat, and some other bullshit about how I don't listen to the other side's opposing arguments when its clear for anyone with the ability to read that I've adressed every single on of your points that you've brought up.

 

Even YOU can admit that.

[Guest force_echo]

Wolverine has to find the Predator first so how is it that the plasma caster will be useless? The Predator will have plenty of time to shoot Wolverine with the plasma caster before they even fight as Wolverine tries to track the Predator while the Predator simply bides his time like usual as he studies Wolverine. Your assuming the Predator will from the start engage Wolverine in close combat which is untrue.

 

Yeah it would take Wolverine a while to detect the Predator's scent. You think it will be that easy for Wolverine to just detect the one scent that he isn't familar with in a jungle? I don't think so Wolverine is going to be having many scent to get through to find the Predator.

 

Also if Wolverine loses major organs, a lot of blood, burned very badly by fire or anything hotter, and more he can die. Which we have seen in the comics all three and more to be very true.

Yes, it will be easy. Its not like Wolverine's never been in a jungle before, he can easily pick up the Predator's foreign scent. And how do you assume that the Predator has the upper hand of position? Wolverine's not an amateur at stealth, and its not like he hasn't encountered anything using x-ray or thermal or uv vision before. Besides, the chances are that, in a situation where neither knows anything about the other, wolverine has the opportunity to strike first, or at the very least, take the fight in close.

[RakaiThwei]

No, you don't understand Wolverine's hand to hand skill. He's been fighting people with superhuman skill for countless decades. He was able to beat someone in sparring, someone who literally had an INFINITE number of ways to kill a person. He is literally among the best fighters in the universe in a universe full of people with SUPERHUMAN fighting ability. So how about you go and read up about Wolverine before spouting your mouth about how Predators are so great at hand to hand combat.

 

Wolverine has been beaten by people who have had lesser skill than him. And these are individuals who have considerably lesser skill than him, and these are characters who don't even have a healing factor either. Two of those particular being Jubilee and Dazzler. Now while I don't know the details concerning on how they had beaten Wolverine, I do know that they have beaten him.

 

Also, you're underestimating Predators as well. For one, aside from the Yautja taking on adversaries such as Xenomorphs, Gangsters, Policemen, Special Forces Units, and even the United States Colonial Marines, we do know that they have come across a vast amount of other enemies in the form of extraterrestrial creatures. Now, it's hard to say what kind of creatures they have come across but I am sure that they have come across some creatures out in the vast universe which are probably around the level of superhuman adversaries out there and won.

 

And then there are some Predators out there who have surpassed the average range for most Yautja. Those notable few being Scarface Predator, Smilely Predator, and Dachande of course.

 

Scarface was one of the few who have fought the type of opponents that Logan would come across, and had come out on top.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest bigballerju]

In the setup the Predator had already been watching Wolverine as Wolverine tracked him so he has most definitely studied Wolverine. Also the Predator already got the first shot in as he blasted Wolverine off a cliff. Now Wolverine who is angry and not thinking straight most likely since thats always the case when he is angry is charging the Predator after escaping being captured in a net.

 

As far as the situation Logan is in from the setup the Predator has this in the bag. The Predator is fast enough and most definitely skilled enough to kill a charging Wolverine too angry to think straight.

[RakaiThwei]

First of all, I never said that Predators are terrible in hand to hand fighting, so how about you learn to read before trying to antagonize me.

 

I was never antagonizing you. I was merely responding to how you had presented your arguments in words which you have chosen to put down and simply responded to it. I damn well know how to read, so don't call me a dullard or bumpkin who is illiterate.

 

First of all, I never said that Predators are terrible in hand to hand fighting, so how about you learn to read before trying to antagonize me.

 

No, you don't understand Wolverine's hand to hand skill. He's been fighting people with superhuman skill for countless decades. You do realize that Wolverine has his own martial art that he uses as well, right?

 

See my previous post above BigballerJu's. Also, I noticed that you had taken the time to edit your previous post to word your presentations better. Very good on your part there but as I made mention before, Logan has been around for maybe almost a little more than over a century. He's been around since the 1800s I believe, mid to late 1800s?

 

I've already made mention that Predators are trained at a young age in the art of Jehdin. Predators age a lot slower than human beings, and because of this slow aging, they tend to spend more time with their trainers to learn what they need to learn and hone whatever skills that they need to know a lot longer than human beings are supposed to stay with their parents from the time they are born, to the time that they grow up. So they have ample time for training.

 

Predators have also the capability of learning other martial arts as well, sometimes even from the unlikliest of teachers-- Human warriors. This is something of a fact, as there was a Predator documented in one of the comics, and perhaps the novels that he had learned the art of Bushido and Kenjutsu, even going as far as to learning Japanese dual sword combat and owns two custom swords. So Predators can also form new styles as well from what they learn over the years. Imagine a Predator who had learned from the Shaolin and learned to use his own latent Qi to imbue his melee and blunt strikes. Predators can learn more than one style and impliment into their own combat.

 

Just like Logan has.

 

And there happen to be a number of them.

 

So how about you go and read up about Wolverine before spouting your mouth about how Predators are so great at hand to hand combat, and some other bullshit about how I don't listen to the other side's opposing arguments when its clear for anyone with the ability to read that I've adressed every single on of your points that you've brought up.

 

I have read up on Wolverine over on his profile pages on Marvel Database, and Comicvine. But there is nothing like actually immersing yourself in the character, and there is nothing like experiencing from what they have by reading their adventures. So why don't you recommend me some titles or even storylines so I can get a better grasp of the character? Give me some good arcs or titles. I am willing to learn by reading first hand about the character in his own adventures.

 

From your post it doesn't look like that you have addressed my arguments much. But then again, there isn't a lot to go on in this particular, poorly written match up considering there are few details given and I doubt the writer really doesn't know much about both characters except for the bare bone basics.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

I read what I could on the predators and I don't see Logan losing to the normal predators and even the predalien or even the queen aliens. I see Logan as an entire alien species that has powers that allow him to win cheaply.

 

Predators would see that he has no weapons but his claws and after multiple shots that haven't killed Logan would ultimately fight him in hand combat.

 

That's when it gets pretty even where one opponent is fast and strong as Venom and Logan can take punishment from Colossus and such.

 

 

Good fight but Logan would win. Not trying to be a wank but I only know of the movies and some games

[RakaiThwei]

I read what I could on the predators and I don't see Logan losing to the normal predators and even the predalien or even the queen aliens. I see Logan as an entire alien species that has powers that allow him to win cheaply.

 

Winning fights he really shouldn't have won. And surviving situations that he shouldn't have.

 

I know you remember that Logan had survived a nuclear drop at point blank, and there is no way he shouldn't have survived such a blast but he did. Why? Because the writers at Marvel had wanked him to such insane levels that he had survived impossible situations. And I know you can admit that, Pymp(mex). I know you can damn well fully admit that Wolverine should not have survived that incident without Deus Ex Machina on his side.

 

Seriously, every cell in his body should've been obliterated, every mitochondria and cellular nuculeai should've been evaporated until there was nothing virtually left. Even his brain would've been burned to oblivion through the eyes, ear canals, and nasal cavities just form the sheer heat of the nuclear explosion. I know the feat is there, but I refuse to recognize it as legit because logically speaking-- he shouldn't have survived.

 

But because of writer wank, he did.

 

Logan can survive a nuclear blast, but he cannot survive adamantium being ripped from his bones by Magneto? Talk about your inconsistencies right then and there, and it just plain flat out doesn't make any sense.

 

Predators would see that he has no weapons but his claws and after multiple shots that haven't killed Logan would ultimately fight him in hand combat.

 

Honorable Yautja would, but this is not an honorable Yautja. According to the set up, which Nesh had pointed out-- this is a Bad Blood. An Evil Predator. One who doesn't give two shits about honor and the rules of the hunt. All it wants is a good kill, nothing more, nothing less.

 

It will fight Logan unfairly.

 

Good fight but Logan would win. Not trying to be a wank but I only know of the movies and some games

 

See, that's the problem. You're not as immersed in the Alien vs Predator franchise as I am. You've admited that you only know the movies, and maybe one or two of the games but your knowledge covers over a small span of what has been expanded in the last twenty years. And I don't mean to sound like someone who is being pretentuous, but as far as someone on the opposing side who has done the research and immersed themselves in the characters like I have, I do believe I have the right to say this and don't take this the wrong way but: As far as Predators are concerned, I know more than you do.

 

Now, again, I am not saying that to be pretentuous or arrogant but that's just a fact. You only know a small portion where I know a larger portion than you do. And it's totally fine that you don't know as much as I do, but please do keep in mind and maybe expand your knowledge with some of the points I do bring up.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest bigballerju]

Marvel is all over the place with Wolverine's healing factor its hard to say too whats his limit. He can survive a nuclear explosion yet we have seen fire in the past almost kill Wolverine or put his healing factor into overdrive when burnt badly.

[RakaiThwei]

Marvel is all over the place with Wolverine's healing factor its hard to say too whats his limit. He can survive a nuclear explosion yet we have seen fire in the past almost kill Wolverine or put his healing factor into overdrive when burnt badly.

 

I do believe that in the case of Wolverine's healing factor, it suffers a severe case of Comic Mechanics.

 

Refer to SirMethos thread about such situations. In the case of Wolverine surviving a nuclear blast, this would count as comic mechanics.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[comic_book_fan]

current wolverine is pretty much unkilliable short of drowning and has peak human strength and speed .

90's wolverine has a verry good regeneration that can be overworked but also has enhanced if not superhuman speed and strength .

pred could not sneak up on wolverine and wolverine can not sneak up on pred .

if this is current wolverine he gets his ass whooped but keeps coming back over and over again until pred leaves .

if this is 90's wolverine can take any form of preditor i have ever seen which is from the first 2 movies and preditors i only know about the movies so thats what iam going by.

[Guest Djgambrell]

Just want to say that it was ultimate wolverine who couldnt survive having his adamantium ripped out. 616 survived it.

[Guest batmanKing989]

wow so many comments

[RakaiThwei]

wow so many comments

 

And I usually avoid matches/debates like this...

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest batmanKing989]

Bull shit.

 

 

 

So we're talking about a Blooded ranked Predator. Blooded ranked Predators have a fair amount of experience, probably equal to Wolverine's and they are without a doubt physically stronger than he is. Probably somewhere in the five ton range of strength.

 

So no, it's not a definite win for Wolverine.

 

 

 

Typical Wolverine wank. This is what pisses me off about Wolverine and his rabid fans.

 

Predators happen to have a metal known as Dlex, which when refined in plasma energies can definitely rival Adamantium. This has been mentioned in several of the games, and sometimes even the novels as well.

 

Really, you don't know shit about Predators.

 

 

 

Predators are trained Hunters and Warriors since birth. Also they possess keen senses of hearing and smell as well, as described in the novels. So basically, if you're going to pull that "WOLVERINE HAS SOOPER SMELLING! ROFL!" arguement, I can too. Predators have an accute sense of smell, and they also have an accute sense of hearing-- able to hear a whisper up to a mile away.

 

Really, you're just rooting on Wolverine on sheer face vaule.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

 

i'm not a huge fan of wolverine i LOVE preadtor trust me only i think wolvie has this hell i made this match anyways my name isn't wolverineking it's the batmanking so what do you think i like

[Guest batmanKing989]

And I usually avoid matches/debates like this...

 

-Rakai'Thwei

 

yeah but everyone is still going along with it why can't we just all agree the winner is wolverine it's a fact

[RakaiThwei]

yeah but everyone is still going along with it why can't we just all agree the winner is wolverine it's a fact

 

I can't help but question your level of intellect.

 

There is no fact given that Wolverine would be a winner. This is precisely the reason why we debate.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest force_echo]

First off, Wolverine let Jubilee beat him in combat to boost her confidence. Second of all, the only way Dazzler "beat" wolverine is through converting the sound of an entire avalanche and directing it at him, and then running away before wolverine could gather himself again. So yeah, don't bring up feats unless you have context.

 

Predators have beaten Xenomorphs, gangsters, policemen, spec ops and futuristic marines? So? Wolverine beats a whole battalion of those things every Tuesday, in addition to consistently fighting SUPERHUMANLY skilled individuals on a regular basis. Name one thing any of the Predators have fought that compares to Hulk or Iron Fist. Because Wolverine fights them. And can win. Saying that a Predator has maybe met some dude out there in the universe who could maybe match up to the superhumans Wolverine fights on a daily basis is pure speculative bullshit. Either come up with some concretes or don't bring it up.

 

Predators can learn styles? Again, so? So can Wolverine. Wolverine has beaten a man who knows every style of martial art in the world and has a danger sense to boot.

 

How have I not addressed your arguments? Can you name an instance? Probably not.

 

Wolverine has no good story arcs, he's a pretty shitty character, but he can probably beat a Predator in combat.

[Guest force_echo]

Wolverine was never killed by Magneto, what are you talking about. Plus, he survived the nuclear explosion when he was magically enhanced, thats not his natural healing factor.

[RakaiThwei]

Predators have beaten Xenomorphs, gangsters, policemen, spec ops and futuristic marines? So? Wolverine beats a whole battalion of those things every Tuesday, in addition to consistently fighting SUPERHUMANLY skilled individuals on a regular basis. Name one thing any of the Predators have fought that compares to Hulk or Iron Fist. Because Wolverine fights them. And can win. Saying that a Predator has maybe met some dude out there in the universe who could maybe match up to the superhumans Wolverine fights on a daily basis is pure speculative bullshit. Either come up with some concretes or don't bring it up.

 

You're missing the point. I have said ASIDE from the aforementioned Xenomorphs, Gangster, Policemen, Special Forces and United States Colonial Marines. I'm pretty sure that the Yautja have come across some very interesting extraterrestrial foes, and some of those creatures probably include the Space Jockies, whom will be featured in the upcoming Alien spin-off Prometheus, and probably the other creations (Protomorph) which will more than likely be featured in Prometheus. As a matter of fact, the Yautja have come across the Space Jockeys as there is a Jockey helmet in a trophy room featured in AvP-R. So it's more than likely such encounters have happened.

 

And if we count Robert Rodriguez's reboot film (which is an alternate continuity from the AvP timeline), then creatures like the River Ghost would also count as something which Predators (both Yautja and Hish) have come across in their hunts or poaches. And if we count Robert Rodriguez's reboot film, then we also have Predator vs Predator to also consider... essentially, Yautja fighting Hish.

 

My point is this, there are bunch of other creatures that the Yautja have come across that we haven't even seen. And some of the novels go as far as mentioning the level of technology that one of these alien prey actually have. Technology that surpasses the Yautja, and they have been hunted by them. And that was mentioned explicitly in Predator: South China Sea.

 

And Predator: Concrete Jungle showed us one Yautja, namely Scarface, fighting a group of three cybernetically enhanced, brain washed Predators whose strength, speed, and durability exceeded even Veterans and Elders. And Veterans and Elders are considerably stronger than the average Blooded ranked Predator.

 

It should also be noted that Scarface had also to deal with Exo-suited enemies, Cyberntically enhanced Super Soldiers and Yautja-Human hybrids.

 

As for a Predator fighting something akin to the Hulk or Iron-Fist... well, you're right about that there. I can't name anything which compares To either of the two. However, I can say that Wolverine hanging with the Hulk is absoloute pure bull-crap because there is no way he should've been able to hang with the Hulk. Realistically, and this happened during the World War Hulk arc, Wolverine had his brain shaken to mush by each of Hulk's punches, his adamantium skull proving to be his greatest liability as the Hulk manhandled him.

 

MarvelFan15 posted scans of it long ago, and after seeing that... I'm thoroughly convinced every Hulk vs Wolverine fight preceeding that was just Wolverine wearing plot convencience armor.

 

Predators can learn styles? Again, so? So can Wolverine. Wolverine has beaten a man who knows every style of martial art in the world and has a danger sense to boot.

 

And who is this man? Give me a name, so I can research this.

 

The whole idea of Predators learning styles is a sign of the level of experience that they have acquired within the hunt. Now let it be said that the Yautja who do achieve the rank of Veteran, Elders, and Arbitrators are somewhere in the 600s to 2000s years of age. We do know for a fact that Predators have a lengthy life span, we do know that those who have witnessed many hunts have plenty of experience, more so than Logan.

 

Considering the set up which has been poorly written, and according to the topic founder who wrote such a horrendously written match up-- this is a Bad Blood Predator who has maybe 400 to 500 years of experience in the hunt, but somewhere along the way went rogue. Now as I said, Logan has been around for a little more than a century, as he was born in the 1800s... a Predator who has 300 - 400 years of experience is going to have the upper hand in learning how to adapt to a situation, and handling it. Now, I am not saying Logan isn't a slouch, far from it. He has adequet experience and he too can adapt to it.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[RakaiThwei]

How have I not addressed your arguments? Can you name an instance? Probably not.

 

The aforementioned "speculative bullshit" which you claim I am posting up. Perhaps I should've been more clearer than being vague to what is out there in the universe as far as what the Alien vs Predator contiuity is concerned.

 

Wolverine has no good story arcs, he's a pretty shitty character, but he can probably beat a Predator in combat.

 

Emphasis on probably. The same emphasis on why a Predator could probably beat Wolverine. This is why we debate.

 

Wolverine was never killed by Magneto, what are you talking about.

 

I never once said that Wolverine was killed by Magneto. What I meant was that his healing factor was pushed into being over-worked when Magneto tore the adamantium from his bones and that he wouldn't have survived without medical assistance.

 

Plus, he survived the nuclear explosion when he was magically enhanced, thats not his natural healing factor.

 

Assuming that is the case here, and if that enhancement is removed, it shouldn't count here.

 

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest Dr. Pymp(mex)]

To rai

 

I agree that you should be ableto say what you wish especially since you know about the predators more

 

In regards to Logan taking a nuke, sure it's PIS and so is him losing to weaker opponents so I just go by his average

 

 

His average is in WWH I think where he is shown to last a long time but get taken out by Hulk easily if need be.

Going by that I can't say Logan would lose to the Preds that I know since Arnold took one out by himself and so did Danny Glover

 

Logan wouldn't die with a blaster shot, the nets wouldn't kill him either and the Preds strength means little since Logan has shown to take hits from 60 ton peeps

[RakaiThwei]

Going by that I can't say Logan would lose to the Preds that I know since Arnold took one out by himself and so did Danny Glover

 

Regarding the Arnold arguement, I can say that every scene from the Waterfall scene to the final confrontation scene in the original Predator was entirely done for plot convenience (really, the film should've ended with Dutch's death at the waterfall scene, but that wouldn't have made for a good movie). For one, Dutch Schaefer being covered over with mud and the Yautja not being able to see him was entirely done with plot armor. As a matter of fact mud is actually a very poor way to hide your body heat as thermal heating would penetrate through the mud-coating in 30 seconds. So Dutch using mud to hide his body heat is something which should not be counted entirely, and over the years-- both the comics and the films have later on went to correct this issue.

 

In Alien vs Predator: Deadliest of the Species, Caryn Delacroix was being hunted by a female Yautja who went by the name of Big Momma, a nickname given to her by Caryn. In this jungle environment, Caryn runs thorugh the jungle and dives into a waterfall. The water fall was cool enough to actually lower Caryn's body heat down to indetectable levels since her tempature was matched that of the waterfall's. Because of this, Big Momma couldn't see her.

 

In Predator: Race War, a bounty hunter who was being stalked by a Yautja while chasing after a neighborhood pedophile, and his body heat had risen from the physical exertion in chasing after this pedophile. After having killed the pedophile, the bounty hunter ran into the Yautja and realized that he was being chased, and he had run into a bursted fire hydrant which was letting off a fountain of cold water-- which he ran through and it allowed his body heat to be lowered to that of the water's, making him difficult to spot by the Yautja.

 

Even Robert Rodriguez's PREDATORS reboot film also fixes the mud problem! Yes, as much as I hate that film, at least Roddy was smart enough to realize that the mud trick doesn't work. The scene where Royce was covered over in mud, and the Berserker Predator looked at him with his thermal imaging-- Royce's body heat was still picked up, even when he was wearing mud. The only way Royce was able to hide his body heat was by using a higher heat source to conceal his own thermal signature from the Berserker Predator.

 

So the Ah-nuld arguement really shouldn't stand anymore.

 

As for the Danny Glover argument... Michael Harrigan killed a Young Blooded Predator. One who was inexperienced in the hunt. Talented, but inexperienced. I've already said why Harrigan won that fight but incase you missed it, go back two pages and look for it.

 

Logan wouldn't die with a blaster shot, the nets wouldn't kill him either and the Preds strength means little since Logan has shown to take hits from 60 ton peeps

 

And Logan's strength would mean very little to a Yautja as well, as I'm sure there are a few Yautja who have fought enemies stronger than they are such as PredAliens, Praetorians, and even Empress Aliens-- and let it be known that Empresses are stronger than average Queen Aliens. So they're both even in that retrospect.

 

-Rakai'Thwei