Match 11392 Ghost Rider (Blaze) and Spawn vs. Darkseid and Thanos

[Guest force_echo]

Yeah, Spawn has a power neither of those guys have, a pretty important one. It's called freaking reality warping. Anything Thanos and Darkseid do to him, any one of their powers, he can counter. What can these guys do to keep from simply dying? Spawn wins here, he's more powerful. Also, Spawn didn't kill Malebolgia, he was just wounded in Spawn 100, Malebolgia came back and Spawn used his demon transformation to kill him for good. Also, as far as Malebolgia's power, he's about as powerful as The Source, second to only Satan himself.

[xLEGACYx]

Yeah, Spawn has a power neither of those guys have, a pretty important one. It's called freaking reality warping. Anything Thanos and Darkseid do to him, any one of their powers, he can counter. What can these guys do to keep from simply dying? Spawn wins here, he's more powerful. Also, Spawn didn't kill Malebolgia, he was just wounded in Spawn 100, Malebolgia came back and Spawn used his demon transformation to kill him for good. Also, as far as Malebolgia's power, he's about as powerful as The Source, second to only Satan himself.

Well if Malebolgia is second only to Satan he is massively below the Source. Seeing as how the Source created all in the DCU including Satan and Hell among many other "gods".

 

As far as the Reality Warping goes, Darkseid can manipulate matter, energy, and reality as well. So thats a mute point now. On top of Darkseid, Thanos canmanipulate matter and all forms of energy as well. So Spawn just doesnt have the power to handle them. Much less at the same time.

[Guest Tyla7]

Plus, Malebolgia isn't second only to Satan there have been a few others shown to be stronger: Mammon and Urizen, that doesn't change the fact i think Spawn & Ghost Rider team doesn't win (i already explained that) but its an interesting fact.

[baneblade]

Yeah, Spawn has a power neither of those guys have, a pretty important one. It's called freaking reality warping. Anything Thanos and Darkseid do to him, any one of their powers, he can counter. What can these guys do to keep from simply dying? Spawn wins here, he's more powerful. Also, Spawn didn't kill Malebolgia, he was just wounded in Spawn 100, Malebolgia came back and Spawn used his demon transformation to kill him for good. Also, as far as Malebolgia's power, he's about as powerful as The Source, second to only Satan himself.

 

Hey bro Force. It seems our good fellow ferreters Legacy and Tyla agree with me on the 'power comparison' thing, which believe it or not, is directly a key ingredient in determining a winner. It seems we are all in the dreaded 'grey area', where you say Malebolgia = Source. I say no. I say no for logical reasons. Malebolgia is not master of his own spehere of creation, Source is. Malebolgia is subject to the laws of creation in his realm, and like a geneticist, borrows from readily endowed life. Source creates that life and then brands it. Sorry bro, Source is technically in terms of power, above Satan as Satan too, though re-forming his realm, or increasing it, is subject to the laws of creation and is confined to that landscape (not literally speaking, but in essence). Source creates such landscapes. True, he didn't 'spawn' the entire DC Universe, as that is attributed to 'The Voice/God' as supreme creator (strictly speaking in DC universe' terminology), but is absolute master and creator in his own given universe of the New Gods and all worlds that are in that jurisdiction. I am sorry, but in terms of power, even if you say you see it that way, you really shouldn't as Source's scope in those terms far outpaces hell's minions. That was discussion aside, for the upteenth time. In terms of the match, Spawn's approach is the guttural, usually. Seid and Thanos' isn't.

 

In all the ruckus of words and opinions, we still have to comprehend, that where Spawn could do things to them, they can do things to him. While he has been 'touched' with signatures here and there, you just can't argue that whatever Seid and Thanos hit him with, he will just withstand. Remember, even when Thanos had the gauntlet, and over the top control, he was at least tagged once, be it he didnt go down. But, the nature of Seid's powers is such, that any entity can be touched, and when it does get touched, there are always effects, the way Seid intended. That does not mean Spawn can't touch Seid, but it does mean that where Seid will weather Spawn's onslaught, Spawn will definitely weather his. I am only gauging opponents' wise.

 

You seem to suggest that nothing they throw at him will work. I do not agree. If Seid can touch the Source, he will most definitely tag Spawn, and when he does, I will never simply discard the posisbility of the effects of that one tag. Whether it is splitting Spawn's essence into multiple realities, or altering his current state, disorienting him through multiple dimension teleportations, or re-arranging his atoms into a convenient energy source. If SPawn tags and it hurts, so does Seid or Thanos' bit. Saying there is something stopping that will only work when the specific ability or power has stemmed a power of that caliber or nature before. If it heasn;t (and I know it hasn't), then both stats, Spawn's and Seid's stand as objects of comparison. That is not the way I am saying it is bro, that is the way it just is.