Rumble 12572 Darkseid vs. Madara Uchiha vs. Thanos

[Guest Holy Crap Batman]

Thor beating Juggernaut is not PIS - Thor's literally negated Juggernaut's invulnerability aura via his Hammer's magic and proceeded to shit-kick him. If anything, Juggernaut beating Thor would be PIS given Thor's combat experience, powers, and higher intellect.

 

That was Age of Apocalypse Magneto - alternate reality.

 

Thanos is incredibly powerful enough to challenge Odin but not defeat him - that was what the fight showed.

 

No, Thanos is inferior to even Post Crisis Darkseid.

 

His point was that sufficient physical strength can injure Cain, as was shown by Onslaught.

 

Apocalypse has beaten people like the X-Men before - you're taking their low showings. It's like me saying Thor loses to regular Green Hulk because Rulk punked his ass in their first fight and Hulk beat Rulk.

[Guest xman4life]

The guy said Juggs cant be hurt by anything, and also said only magic can really hurt him. Onslaught beat him easily, Hulk beat him without magic, Skaar, and Thor.

 

Odin smacked around Thanos and put him in his place by showing him that without even going all out I can beat you. The feat wasnt that impressive.

 

Im really stating to question his comic knowledge when he didnt know that was a skrull posing as black bolt, when he thinks Juggs can actually fight Apocalypse.(wow). Juggs has invulnerability and finite strength. Apocalypse has the ability to have INFINITE Strength, telepathy, telekinesis,absorb energy, invulnerability, density control, matter manipulation, shape shifting, molecular control over his body, and technopathy. Yeah they are even.lol

 

The X-Men/Mutants fear Apocalypse WHOLE HEARTEDLY. Juggernaunt just ruined their day. It didnt last for weeks.

[Guest sirmethos]

"Agreed... But prep is imposible to work, even though the OP said prep."

 

No, prep is not impossible to work.

 

In this case, they can prep by preparing their strategies/tactics for the fight, set up their force fields, etc. They just can't create any new technology to use in the fight.

 

 

"Uh Juggs beat Hulk many times...And Juggs beating Thor was not PIS, because nothing can hurt Juggernaut."

 

Not quite.

1. Juggernaut has only beaten Hulk two times IIRC, once in Hulk #187, and once in Hulk #402.

2. Yes, Juggernaut beating Thor was PIS. Thor has shown(in the comics) that he was able to remove the magic that protects Juggernaut, after which he proceeded to kick Juggernaut around with no effort.

 

 

"Care to prove? You're making Apocalypse out to be this extremely powerful guy. Most of the abilities you listed, he barley even uses. I remember him getting beat by Magneto..."

 

1. The scan of Magneto defeating him, was from AoA. An alternate reality. I.e. not canon.

 

2. Apocalypse has defeated all of the Inhumans(at the same time) and defeated X-men on several occasions. You don't defeat those two teams without being extremely powerful.

 

 

"Yet Thanos was still able to hang with a skyfather..."

 

By that logic, I was able to hang with this huge biker while I was drunk(at the age of 19).

 

Thanos was smacked around like a redheaded stepchild, he wasn't able to do any kind of damage to Odin, and Odin was barely making an effort.

 

 

"Thanos can take post crisis Darkseid. Just saying."

 

So you keep saying, but you have yet to provide anything to actually back up that claim.

 

 

"Uhh....What is this supose to prove???? Onslaught>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Apocalypse."

 

It proves that Juggernaut can be damaged physically, without magic.

 

 

"Yet Apocalyse still gets beating by the X-men and Magneto. And Juggs is able to beat people like Thor."

 

Or we can reverse that, and Apocalypse is still able to defeat entire (powerful)teams like the Inhumans and X-men. And Juggernaut gets beaten by street level heroes like Spider-Man.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

 

 

Care to prove that Hulk is on Hercules level strength wise?

 

I've never seen Hulk accomplished this kinda strength feat..

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg13/scaled.php?server=13&filename=hercstrength3.jpg&res=landing

 

And I agree that both Hercules and Sentry should have won. But Sentry was only trying to calm him down, because sentry can take away his gamma radiatian or something like that(correct me if I'm wrong) and Hercules was barely fighting back.

 

I've already given you proof. Literally EVERY time the two have fought, they've been depicted as equals (except for WWH, where Hercules got his ass beat).

[Guest Crzyrkrdd]

the poll sorta shocked me

[Guest xman4life]

Im telling the guy that Juggs is NOT in anyway, shape, form or fashion on Apocalypse level. Thats laughable at best to even say that. If you had comic knowledge you would see the threat Apocalypse posed compared to Juggs. Juggs has no motives he just walks around and pick fights. Apocalypse tries to control the world. I put it the best way I can. Juggs is a DAY problem. Apocalypse is a week problem. And Juggs has a strength level, So does Hercules. Both whom have a SET BASE LEVEL higher than Hulks BUT....................................Hulk has the capacity to go beyond them. Herclues and Juggs have high level strength because they get no boost they have to start oiut high. Hulk because of his boost doesnt have to be as high.

 

Herc may only go as far as 100,000 tons but have showings of higher

Same for Juggs

 

Hulk may start out as 8,000 tons and as he gets mad it doubles per second(imo)

 

Now as far as Thor vs Juggs, that fight is VERY PIS. Even without the magical negation Thor could whoop his ass. Hulk beat Juggs and if Hulk can Thor can,because Thor is stronger than Juggs. Compare feats and its very one sided.

[Indolent]

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[Guest xman4life]

MY PARENTS ARE DEAD! LMFAO. Toronto Batman