Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 The people who are saying that Batman wins, seems to be completely ignoring the fact that Kraven has time to prepare, and take Batman by surprise.I'm not ignoring it. He's had worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I'm not ignoring it. He's had worst. Oh? When actually planning and preparing, doing his research and setting up an ambush/trap, Kraven took down Spider-Man. The only similar scenario that Batman has been through(that I can remember) was with Bane, and that time Batman ended up with a broken back -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Heh, what if Kraven replicates what he did to Parker after he defeated Spiderman here for Batman? That would be interesting, someone destroying the Batman's reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 "My fellow Gothamites, I'm pleased to tell you that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Kraven forever. We begin bombing in 5 minutes. Bruce Wayne, signing off." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 People downplaying Kraven do know most recently Kraven actually captured Red Hulk right? Hell he even took a beating from Red Hulk I think and got smacked miles away when they were both dealing with that Mayan Tribe. Also Kraven is pretty much immortal like Kaine unless Spiderman kills them. Kraven is a excellent who with prep is more then capable of capturing Batman which he has here. Kraven has physical feats above human and is superior physically to Batman. Kraven captures and kills Batman. C for the setup. Nice try you just need to take your time more and watch for certain mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenerack5 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kraven took down Red Hulk wow just wow. Sorry Batman this is gonna be a big one but you are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest batmanKing989 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 People downplaying Kraven do know most recently Kraven actually captured Red Hulk right? Hell he even took a beating from Red Hulk I think and got smacked miles away when they were both dealing with that Mayan Tribe. Also Kraven is pretty much immortal like Kaine unless Spiderman kills them. Kraven is a excellent who with prep is more then capable of capturing Batman which he has here. Kraven has physical feats above human and is superior physically to Batman. Kraven captures and kills Batman. C for the setup. Nice try you just need to take your time more and watch for certain mistakes. yes but that's different there is "cure" batman has no cure and as for kraven being immortal i don't think so plus in spiderman animated series he lost that "power" so in this case he's a normal guy i should've explained more in the plot ok LISTEN UP this takes place right after the first episode of spiderman animated series with kraven in it, so spidey "cured him of his power" so lets say kraven goes out of jail, goes home, gets the offer, here we are kraven (without power disease crap) v.s batman (fully rested and epic) now yes kraven does have the advantage of suprise so i'd say he'd sneak up on batman stab him in the back or shoulder, then batman gets pissed and throws the knife aside now were here pissed off batman v.s kraven without powers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest batmanKing989 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kraven took down Red Hulk wow just wow. Sorry Batman this is gonna be a big one but you are dead. THE CURE a CURE is different from a man at peak ability ya know what *vulgarity* it you guys decide anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 "now yes kraven does have the advantage of suprise so i'd say he'd sneak up on batman stab him in the back or shoulder, then batman gets pissed and throws the knife aside now were here" He's more likely to hit Batman with a sedative, then cut his Bat-line while he's swinging away. Having him fall down in a prepared area(like he did with Spider-Man). Or track down Batman's real identity, then take him down with a powerful sedative while he's Bruce Wayne. Also, little things like Kraven not having his powers in this fight, are things you have to put in the setup. With no information given in the setup, standard procedure is that it's the most recent version of the character, from the comics. There's just the little problem with that, that Kraven wouldn't take the offer right after getting out of jail, if his powers weren't working. He would make sure to get a hold of the herbs to get his powers restored first. He's kinda arrogant, but he's not stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest batmanKing989 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 "now yes kraven does have the advantage of suprise so i'd say he'd sneak up on batman stab him in the back or shoulder, then batman gets pissed and throws the knife aside now were here" He's more likely to hit Batman with a sedative, then cut his Bat-line while he's swinging away. Having him fall down in a prepared area(like he did with Spider-Man). Or track down Batman's real identity, then take him down with a powerful sedative while he's Bruce Wayne. Also, little things like Kraven not having his powers in this fight, are things you have to put in the setup. With no information given in the setup, standard procedure is that it's the most recent version of the character, from the comics. There's just the little problem with that, that Kraven wouldn't take the offer right after getting out of jail, if his powers weren't working. He would make sure to get a hold of the herbs to get his powers restored first. He's kinda arrogant, but he's not stupid. ok whatever dude i'm not forcing you to choose anyone just pointing things out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red_Dragon Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Heh, what if Kraven replicates what he did to Parker after he defeated Spiderman here for Batman? That would be interesting, someone destroying the Batman's reputation.Funny you mention that. In the trade paperback of that storyline, the author said that he originally wanted to do it with his run on Batman, not his run on Spiderman. But he never managed to work it in and did it later in his Spiderman run. Just a fun fact I thought I'd share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Holy shit. Ninja'd by miles xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Justabox Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Kraven beat Daredevil and Black Widow at the same time, he can take Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pickle Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Oh? When actually planning and preparing, doing his research and setting up an ambush/trap, Kraven took down Spider-Man. The only similar scenario that Batman has been through(that I can remember) was with Bane, and that time Batman ended up with a broken back -.-I just want to point out that Batman has beaten guys like Solomon Grundy, Superman, and only once did Bane break his back, in which case Batman ended up coming back and beating him anyways. Not saying Batman SHOULD win, Im only saying that some of his wins have been over heavier hitters than anything Kraven has overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Batman didn't come back and beat Bane, Azrael did it while Wayne was recovering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I just want to point out that Batman has beaten guys like Solomon Grundy, Superman, and only once did Bane break his back, in which case Batman ended up coming back and beating him anyways. Not saying Batman SHOULD win, Im only saying that some of his wins have been over heavier hitters than anything Kraven has overcome. Batman has never beaten Superman At least get your facts straight. And the incarnations of Grundy that Batman has beaten, has been the low powered ones. Kraven has taken down opponents more impressive than that. Also, any heavy hitters that Batman has actually beaten, he has beaten through trickery, by being prepared. In this particular match, Kraven is the one that's prepared, and Batman is the one that's being surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Batman never beat Superman period. Its actually been proven by people like Hush, Bane, Joker and others you can defeat Batman with prep. Whether its physical, mind games (Joker for example), or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSkillz Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 This is a pretty nice improvement over your previous set-ups, batmanKing. You still have to watch those mistakes on grammar, though, as well certain things in your future matches more clear from the start. Since this is the TAS version of Kraven (which really should've been made clear in the match itself from the start) against an apparently random version of Batman (a specific version of Bats also should've been made clear here), I can't really decide on who would win here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Match Final ResultsUSER RATINGS C A definite improvement here. Just watch the grammar and make clear which versions of each combatant are fighting next time. F C SCORE Batman: 22Kraven the Hunter: 13FPA: 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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