Indolent Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I wasn't criticizing your set up or anything or calling it PIS - was just elaborating on it as you asked. I was actually referencing what others have stated - the fights between La Magra Frost and Drake for Blade. He never really 'birthed' them as Vampires and Werewolves. They were just Immortals like himself before one got bit by a bat and one by a wolf. He was just the Father of Two Immortals and now just so happens to be the Father of The First Vampire and Lycan. That reasoning is faulty. She asked him for help, he seemed unwilling and if he was quite powerful, why didn't he defend himself against Marcus... I think his power had diminished quite a bit though his blood was still potent - and Selene is vastly superior to Blade. Though perhaps in Alexander's Prime, he might have been but we don't really know what the stated capabilities are of an Immortal, other than what we've perceived. So it's basically highly conjecture in regard to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason Redfield Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I was under the impression that he couldn't bring himself to harm his son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 If he was really powerful, he should have been able to survive that attack from Marcus as well - he said he was finished if I recall correctly - which is where I'm getting the impression that he wasn't as powerful as people are making him out to be. Of course though, we have absolutely no idea what his capabilities were other than he was immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted October 18, 2012 Author Share Posted October 18, 2012 Ohhhh, okay. Sorry about that. Marcus is superior to him so he told Selene to drink his blood to stop Marcus, Your right though I think Alexander had to be amazingly strong if his blood can turn Selene in to a super vampire(basically) and survive the sunlight and what not. That is just my guess, Marcus easily beat him because Marcus was just stronger and a hybrid at that. If Marcus vs Alexander in a vampire vs vampire bite I think it would have been harder to Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Nah, I think it was just his blood removed the weaknesses of the Vampire Strain. After all, before his lineage got infected by the two different strains, it was just the Immortal strain. Selene seemed pretty much the same aside from her new 'abilities', i.e. the lack of weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I dunno, average vampires were never shown to be strong enough to smack cars around like Selene did, plus her blood apparently has healing properties now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 Yeah Selene in the last moved smacked a Van with ease and that damn thing flipped over a couple of times across the parking lot. Selene also moved a bit faster then what she did in the first two movies. Then again maybe we just never saw how powerful or fast the vampires were before until the last movie that came out and Jaeger could be right on one hand. However Selene still moved faster and was stronger then the regular vampires in Awakening so AVP is probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 I thought the Coven of Regular Vamps were relatively young in Awakening compared to someone like Selene - which might be why she was superior. And yeah, forgot about the healing property - she revived the son of said Coven's leader iirc. He's like her now isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 He should be like Selene now, I believe. He's seen later entering an underground parking lot during the day, but it's not really shown after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I was under the impression that he couldn't bring himself to harm his son. That's exactly right, he states so, several times. Of course though, we have absolutely no idea what his capabilities were other than he was immortal. As far as the films show us he's just immortal, but his blood makes Selene better in every way. It enhances her existing abilities and gets rid of her weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Defending himself doesn't mean he has to directly harm his son BTW. I know, we already covered that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 And i was confirming it. The second film happens to be on right now. I guess he could have defended himself, but he seemed ok with dying once he'd been injured, so maybe he wanted it, at least partly, and didn't want to defend himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 Yeah was thinking that too, skadoosh. Like if Alexander really wanted to put up a fight he would have. Jaeger, he was an elder and I'm guessing the older you get the more stronger the vampire blood comes? I don't know. Lol. But that is a possibility maybe? His blood was just stronger than hers and when she bit him it enhanced her? You seem to be the master of Underworld knowledge which I find really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 I was thinking that the Vampire and Werewolf Strain, especially in his sons, might have made them stronger than their father if that makes any sense whereas Selene, being a far younger vampire, would definitely be boosted by Alexander's blood. I don't think I understand your post Dark Spider - he wasn't a Vampire but he was an Elder, an Immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 if Alexander really wanted to put up a fight he would have. Yeah, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Again, he doesn't have to put up a fight to defend himself. -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Sure, but my point is that, i think, he wanted to die. It's just character speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 So, he wa an immortal before he was a vampire? How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Who, Alexander Corvinus? He was never a vampire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason Redfield Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 So, he wa an immortal before he was a vampire? How does that work? Alexander Corvinus was simply some kind of immortal, evolved human. He had two sons, one of which was the first vampire and the other the first werewolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 Alexander Corvinus was simply some kind of immortal, evolved human. He had two sons, one of which was the first vampire and the other the first werewolf. After seeing first 3 movies I didn't even know that. That is something unexplained that I think Underworld can get more movies on. Prequals of Alexanders story and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Alexander Corvinus was the survivor of a viral epidemic that took an entire town/village he lived in, with him being the only survivor that adapted to said virus, which rendered him immortal and 'evolved'. His sons had the same thing until Marcus was bitten by a Bat, and William by a Wolf, which altered the 'Immortal' virus into the Vampirism and Lycanthropy we see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 Alexander Corvinus was the survivor of a viral epidemic that took an entire town/village he lived in, with him being the only survivor that adapted to said virus, which rendered him immortal and 'evolved'. His sons had the same thing until Marcus was bitten by a Bat, and William by a Wolf, which altered the 'Immortal' virus into the Vampirism and Lycanthropy we see. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, okay I see now. It was all science basically and not supernatural. That is pretty freaking cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 That is something unexplained that I think Underworld can get more movies on. Prequals of Alexanders story and whatnot. Yeah, it was science, and yeah, Alexander's story could make a good film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Match Final ResultsUSER RATINGS B B A SCORE Blade: 25Lucian: 8FPA: 3.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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