terminator vs robocop vs predator vs jason

[Indolent]

It's not actually the same chassis - from what I understand, the T-850 is slightly more so superior than the T-800 in both armor and strength, which comes from the chassis.

[C.T.]

Slightly being key word there.

[Indolent]

There's a profound difference between the performance of the T-850 we see in T3 compared to T2 and T1's - slight is the very minimum I'd label it. -.-

 

Hell - the T-800 was actually weak against Plasma Attacks. The T-850 was Skynet's answer to fixing that weakness, hardening it's armor.

 

Again, there's a difference between the T-800 and T-850 that the T-850's specs should not be used for the T-800

[RakaiThwei]

The Series 800 was particularly vulnerable to plasma shots be they were fired from Resistance ordinance or even reprogrammed Infiltrator units. In other words, the Series 800 didn't hold up too particularly well against plasma, so Skynet had essentially increased the density of the T-800 chasis to better withstand plasma blast, in effect making it more durable than the series 800.

 

While the Series 850 was upgraded with a more sturdy chasis, it was still particularly vulnerable to high powered plasma shots. In the case of the Series 850 unit in Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, it took a plasma shot right to it's torso-- namely right where it's power source was. What might have dampened the shock of the blast, and this might be a stretch even I will admit, but the Series 850 was wearing it's fleshy encasing and it's armored chasis barely even held up to the T-X's plasma shot, but the power of the blast was enough to rupture it's main power cell.

 

In other words, the T-850's chasis is strong but the T-X's plasma shot almost did it in.

 

A Series 800 would effectively be destroyed by the plasma shot.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[AVP vs The Terminator]

It performed much more effectively because the filmmakers had access to a bigger budget and more advanced special effects. In terms of the design specs of the endoskeleton, they really aren't all that different.

 

Edit: I apparently stand corrected.

[Indolent]

The armor was fine - it was just the energy output of the plasma shot that overloaded the chassis and severely damaged it's first reactor cell - it's why he shut down in the first place from the attack.

 

But yes, a T-800 would get melted T-1000 style!

[Indolent]

Now if we were using Terminator Salvation's T-Rip T-800...

 

That T-800 is vastly superior to even the standard T-800 from the first and second film for some reason.

[C.T.]

There's a profound difference between the performance of the T-850 we see in T3 compared to T2 and T1's - slight is the very minimum I'd label it. -.-

 

 

Your words, not mine.

[RakaiThwei]

In terms of the design specs of the endoskeleton, they really aren't all that different.

 

From a visual stand point, you would be right since it looks identical to it's Series 800 predecessor.

 

However there are notable design differences. For example, the Series 850 has a secondary hydraulic system which increases it's base strength farther than the Series 800. What percentage of a number, I am unsure of but it does have a Combat Mode which is installed in it's programming that re-routes the power cell's energy to effectively fire up it's hydraulics to even further increase it's already superior strength capabilities.

 

That T-800 is vastly superior to even the standard T-800 from the first and second film for some reason.

 

Skynet has made mention that it has looked into the different timelines and saw that almost every outcome was in favor of John Connor winning, so it looked into the past and documented the performances of it's own units and even tried to fix these mistakes. So it accelerated the mass production of the Series 800 with different programming and design specs.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Indolent]

Your words, not mine.

And it's not incorrect whatsoever - so what's your point? o,o

 

Oh... you're posting for your post count. GTFO THIS THREAD.

[Indolent]

Yeah, I figured that as much except I was stuck on how they'd view the various timelines - if they could view it, why not just view the ones that were successful in killing John Connor and replicate that shit.

 

Just my little irk with it.

[C.T.]

No.

[RakaiThwei]

Yeah, I figured that as much except I was stuck on how they'd view the various timelines - if they could view it, why not just view the ones that were successful in killing John Connor and replicate that shit.

 

Skynet actually has done actually that in the novel Terminator 2: Infiltrator. I haven't read that novel but looking it up on Terminator Wiki, it's mentioned that Skynet has actually looked at numerous different timelines and saw each and every different outcome-- however it has also mentioned that because of the different timelines coming to be as a result of the numerous meddlings from both the Resistance and Skynet, there will be a temporal crunch where all timelines are reverted back into the ORIGINAL timeline, before the events of Los Angeles 1984.

 

In the Dynamite Comics, Skynet even created the T-Infinity, a Terminator unit with an inbuilt time displacement unit to actually go back and forward in time to eradicate both Resistance and Skynet units to revert the timeline back to it's original course.

 

Just my little irk with it.

 

I think that was EVERY Terminator fan's irk with Terminator Salvation.

 

-Rakai'Thwei