Guest skadoosh Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I didn't say anything about Black Cat. I said Sabretooth is, generally, superior to Yautja. The key word being "is", as in, he is now, currently. That was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 I said Sabretooth is, generally, superior to Yautja. The key word being "is", as in, he is now, currently. That was my point. Well you'd be half right if this was a Sabretooth vs Predator fight, but this isn't. This is Machiko vs Black Cat. And as far as Jaeger and AvP have pointed out, Felicia only fought Sabretooth back in a 1986 issue where he was still a pretty low end character. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z451 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 This fight is tough, but I think I'll give it to Machiko. She as a trained hunter, will be more accurate and stealth with her blows than Black Cat would, due to the fact that she has more than likely hunted worse before. However, rooftop combat could be a problem, and in that I'm not quite sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Hm, I'll say Felicia she defeated The Lizard and also hung with Venom for a while in a fight. She didn't beat Venom but she did give Mr. Brock a fairly good showdown. Hm, I'll say Black Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Four for Machiko Noguchi. Four for Felicia Hardy... Jesus, this is neck and neck. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 FELICIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest erfqwerf Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 MACHIKO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The guests really did get a sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 The guests really did get a sense of humor. Or it's someone we know masquerading around as Guests. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I dunno. Erfqwerf could be anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Well you'd be half right if this was a Sabretooth vs Predator fight, but this isn't. This is Machiko vs Black Cat. And as far as Jaeger and AvP have pointed out, Felicia only fought Sabretooth back in a 1986 issue where he was still a pretty low end character. I'd be right if it was Sabretooth versus a Yautja, but it would depend on the Yautja's rank, what they both have, where they are, etc. I know who this fight is between, but again, i didn't mention Black Cat then. However, concerning this fight, i do think she wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSkillz Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 The guests really did get a sense of humor. Especially since those last two are the same guy. Anyways, I think I'll give this one to Machiko. Given the parameters here, she just has better weapons and seems to be a bit more skilled than Felicia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 Especially since those last two are the same guy. Must be awesome to have perks to see that kind of stuff as Mod. Anyways, I think I'll give this one to Machiko. Given the parameters here, she just has better weapons and seems to be a bit more skilled than Felicia. Fair enough! -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 Guest Bots are uprising!! -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Match Final ResultsMachiko Noguchi: 16Black Cat: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Oh? This is a much different turnout, than I was expecting. Not that I'm complaining, I just figured Black Cat would get a load of fanboy votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 A comic book character winning doesn't always happen just because of fanboy votes. Often, sure, just not always. And here, personally, i genuinely do disagree with the turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 And here, personally, i genuinely do disagree with the turnout. And yet, most of the people who had vocalized their opinion had voiced their opinions for Machiko. Four people voiced Machiko. Three people voiced Black Cat... The general consensus agreed that this was a toss up fight. Never the less, it's not an official CBUB match so the votes at this point, really don't mean anything. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I don't mind if it affects the character's record or not, i only care for the opinions, and this wasn't a clear win, it was a pretty even debate, which is cool. I was just making a general statement above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 A comic book character winning doesn't always happen just because of fanboy votes. Often, sure, just not always.Not really my point. They're both comic book characters. Black Cat is more well known, is all. Unless you're really into the Predator franchise, chances are you probably wouldn't know Machiko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I know her quite well, i've read War, and quite a lot of other AVP comics, but i was making a very general point, not attacking yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Not really my point. They're both comic book characters. Black Cat is more well known, is all. Unless you're really into the Predator franchise, chances are you probably wouldn't know Machiko. Machiko Noguchi would be considered obscure when compared to characters like Black Cat, Mary Jane Watson, and Emma Frost. There is no contesting that unless someone has read Alien vs Predator, Alien vs Predator: War, Alien vs Predator: Three World War-- or even the novel adaptations such as Alien vs Predator: Prey, Alien vs Predator: War, and Alien vs Predator: Hunter's Planet-- most people won't even know who Machiko Noguchi is. As a matter of fact, there is next to no merchandise for Machiko-- she's only got two to three pieces of merch. People know more about Black Cat because she has been in a very popular title not to mention she has artist drawing her in cheesecake material... Machiko Noguchi isn't very well known outside of the Alien-Predator fandom, and she really isn't cheesecake material. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Heh. I don't know. Some of those secondary images were pretty easy on the eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Heh. I don't know. Some of those secondary images were pretty easy on the eyes. Some of those those pictures happen to be fan art drawn by Max Kim. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Huh. Didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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