Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Watching the Engineer owning humans in Prometheus, got me to thinking..... Engineer vs Predator Fist fight. No armor, just wearing clothes. Who wins? Also since Prometheus is the prequel to Aliens, and we know the yautja have used the Aliens for hunting purposes(for a pretty long time), do you think the yaujta have crossed paths with the engineers? Who do you think is more impressive technologically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z451 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Watching the Engineer owning humans in Prometheus, got me to thinking..... Engineer vs Predator Fist fight. No armor, just wearing clothes. Who wins? Also since Prometheus is the prequel to Aliens, and we know the yautja have used the Aliens for hunting purposes(for a pretty long time), do you think the yaujta have crossed paths with the engineers? Who do you think is more impressive technologically?I'd say the Engineers are due to their ability to create the Xenomorphs in the first place. As far as meetings between the two species, there are still numerous theories to that, but one I like personally is that the Yautja and the Engineers were more or less trading partners, which kind of makes sense as there is probably things that both species couldn't get on their own planets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The trading partners makes sense and that's something I wouldn't doubt. As far as who would win that's tough. Both have their advantages like the 1987 Predator with it's great hunting skill and the Engineer with his physical abilities. Then again the Engineers are very smart so who knows what they are capable of. Rakai will probably give us more information on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 AvP-R showed us that the Yautja HAVE actually encountered Engineers in the past... In fact... in the beginning scene of AvP-R, we do see an Engineer helmet. It's the last trophy on the upper right hand corner.. I think this speaks for itself thereby defeating the theory that the Engineers and Yautja are trading with each other, and instead further enforces that the two were antagonistic towards one another. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Could they have been enemies because the Engineers created the aliens to kill humans and the Predators constantly kept that from happening by hunting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Or they just found the Engineers to be thrilling prey. I know I would if I were one, considering an Engineer was physically superior to a human being and far more intelligent at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Maybe the Predators were utterly crushing the Engineers military wise, so the Engineers came up with Xenomorphs to appease the Predators. So in essence, they have something to kill other than Engineers?? I think the fist fight is pretty even. The Predator was owning Arnold like he was nothing, as did the Engineer own the humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 In a pure fist fight, I think the Engineer is too big for an average Predator. And yeah, the two species were most likely antagonistic to one another. We don't know much about the Engineers' technology, so we can't really say who's more technologically impressive for sure, but I think the Yautja simply saw the Engineers as another species to hunt, while the Engineers saw the Yautja as an enemy race. Perhaps the relationship between the two species will be expanded on in the next AvP comic/game/film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 In a pure fist fight, I think the Engineer is too big for an average Predator.The Engineer only has 5 inches of height on the Predator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 And you know what they say about tall people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 I'm pretty sure it was taller than 7'6". It's also considerably more dense and muscular, hence my saying it's too big in a pure fist fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 And you know what they say about tall people.How's the weather up there? @AvP- It just says 7 feet plus in their description. Even if the Engineers is a lot stronger, the Predator is probably better trained for unarmed combat. I'm willing to bet the Predator is swifter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 *vulgarity*ing horrible. Gloomy as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 The Engineer looked like he was 8-9 feet tall, IMO. And the Predator didn't show a lot of swiftness in the movie-- in fact, it mostly just used its strength to throw Arnie around when it fought hand-to-hand. It won't be able to do that to the bigger and tougher Engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Then The Engineer forces the Yautja to drink it's white, milky, sticky substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 In a pure fist fight, I think the Engineer is too big for an average Predator. In the case of Diablo, that would be true. For a Yautja like Scarface, Smiley and Dachande... completely different story. And yeah, the two species were most likely antagonistic to one another. We don't know much about the Engineers' technology, so we can't really say who's more technologically impressive for sure, but I think the Yautja simply saw the Engineers as another species to hunt, while the Engineers saw the Yautja as an enemy race. There is a lot of speculation to what the relationship between the Yautja and the Engineers are. Some sources out there speculate that the Yautja had developed their technology from the Engineers by retro-engineering their weapons and equipment-- however this is speculation which has been around for a little bit more of a decade, but the problem i see with this is that Engineer technology for the most part is far too complex as it's bio-mechanical and Engineer users of Engineer technology seem to essentially become one with their technology. I would prefer to think that the Yautja have developed their own technology as they have been around a lot longer than human beings. What we do know is that the Yautja have hunted the Engineers, and by that logic-- both species know of each other. That's all we know factually speaking. The Engineer looked like he was 8-9 feet tall, IMO. The Yautja are somewhere in the seven to eight foot tall range, and that's speaking for the males. Of course, I am certain that there are Yautja males who are in the nine to ten foot tall height in range, think of them like uh... the Shaquelle O'Neal or Mutumbo of the Yautja race. But for the most part, Yautja are in the seven to eight foot height in range. Females.. are said to be taller though than the males according to the novels. And stronger too. Then The Engineer forces the Yautja to drink it's white, milky, sticky substance. No one needs to know your sexual fantasies with Nova subtely laced in this discussion, Jaeger! -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Nova and I have absolutely nothing to do with this. For one: I'm on top. Besides that... that's what happened in the film with the Engineer and that white shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Besides that... that's what happened in the film with the Engineer and that white shit. It wasn't white. It was black. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 NOTHING'S BLACK AND WHITE! Except penguins. Killer whales. Old movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I can't speak for the fight, i don't know enough about the Engineers, but i can say that, more likely than not, any recorded or hinted encounters between the two species are non-canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I can't speak for the fight, i don't know enough about the Engineers, but i can say that, more likely than not, any recorded or hinted encounters between the two species are non-canon. Actually, AvP-R shows that the Yautja and Engineers encountering each other have likely happened within the AvP Continuity. So it is canon. Just a different continuity. Twentieth Century Fox hasn't even bothered in retconning the AvP films or the Alien vs. Predator expanded universe. What reasoning do you say otherwise? -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yeah the Alien vs Predator films are canons so why would any encounter be non-canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 The Alien, Predator and Alien vs Predator franchises are three separate franchises that have three separate continuities, that do overlap, but are nevertheless separate and have plenty of difference. So, obviously, in the Alien franchise and the Predator franchise the Engineers and the Yautja will never have encountered each other, because they don't exist in each others continuities, but in the Alien vs Predator franchise they may well have. When i said non-canon i meant in the original separate franchises, not in the slightly more recent Alien vs Predator franchise. Although, from what i do know, there has been one hint that they encountered each other, which is the image Rakai already posted, the moment in the second Alien vs Predator film, which was obviously more of a tease than an actual encounter, and doesn't prove that the Yautja would definitely beat an Engineer, only under whatever circumstances that encounter happened in, and other than that there's just fan speculation. I'm not actually saying who i think would win this fight, just that it's not likely that there are any useful accounts of any encounters between the two species for us to reference, making it even harder to determine a winner here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 No, the three franchises aren't non-canon to one another. There's no indication that any of the films aren't in continuity with each other, and there's no real indication that the comics aren't canon, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Skadoosh where are you getting this from when the comics and films point to them being canon with each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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