Match 12984 Apocalypse vs. Namor the submariner

[Guest bigballerju]

I am not convinced current Namor could defeat Apocalypse or even last a few minutes. Sorry but Marvel seems to have depowered him a bit in recent years. The fact Wolverine could battle him out of water and Luke Cage could do the same underwater proves that. Namor should have been capable of bitch-smacking both of them. Namor fought a earlier version of Hulk in the past that wasn't as powerful as he would come to be years later.

 

Poor Namor. However in his defense he isn't the only character to suffer such a fate.

[Guest skadoosh]

any version of green hulk is stronger then namor.

 

FUNNY JOKE.

[comic_book_fan]

FUNNY JOKE.

it's the truth the thing is as strong as namor on land if not stronger and green hulk is stronger than them both.

[Guest bigballerju]

Sadly I haven't seen anything recently for me to believe Namor could take any Hulk in a fight except for maybe the original Shehulk. Even that's a maybe because she was able to fight Red Hulk, give Sentry a few hits that knocked him to the ground in shock, rip Ultron to shreds, and face other heavy hitters. Namor keeps getting made a ass out of by people he should wipe the floor with.

 

Hopefully that all changes.

[C.T.]

Yeah...Namor has owned Red Hulk, held his own against Sentry and faced other heavy hitters as well. :|

[Guest skadoosh]

it's the truth the thing is as strong as namor on land if not stronger and green hulk is stronger than them both.

 

No. Namor is more than capable of taking out the Thing and the Hulk. The Hulk would only be a problem for him a decent amount further up the strength-and-anger scale, obviously.

 

Sadly I haven't seen anything recently for me to believe Namor could take any Hulk in a fight except for maybe the original Shehulk. Even that's a maybe because she was able to fight Red Hulk, give Sentry a few hits that knocked him to the ground in shock, rip Ultron to shreds, and face other heavy hitters.

 

Namor is more than capable of taking on, and taking down, the Hulk, She-Hulk and many other physical powerhouses.

 

Also, this:

 

Namor has owned Red Hulk, held his own against Sentry and faced other heavy hitters as well. :|

[Guest bigballerju]

Yeah after what I saw with Thing and Luke Cage I am not convinced he could defeat current Hulk who is more powerful then before. When did Namor take on Sentry? Red Hulk I will give him credit I do remember him giving Red Hulk a good fight.

 

Honestly with Marvel now lets see how powerful Namor will be now. Are they keeping his history or is he getting a reboot? Marvel has been very bad with telling us this information for certain characters.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Namor never owned Red Hulk. He hit Rulk a few times then punched him out of the water when Ross didn't fight back.

[Guest skadoosh]

A lot of the difference in feats is the result of different writers rather than Namor or any other characters actually differing in power.

[C.T.]

 

To be fair, he's powered up by Phoenix here. But still, owned. With one arm.

 

As for Sentry...

 

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Yeah, Namor can hold his own. Not beat, because Sentry has his power of a million exploding suns, but can hold his own. Yeah, that ram that pushes Namor back alot, doesn't faze him. Cue bus thrown at Sentry. Heh.

[Guest bigballerju]

That fight with Red Hulk doesn't count then since Namor has the phoenix power which greatly increased his power and gave him extra abilities. This is regular Namor we are talking about it here. Those scans don't show Namor beating Sentry or really show anything. Namor only throws one punch in one and the other Namor along with Sentry fly through the air. That's it. In that fight I don't remember seeing Namor do anything to Sentry to suggest he could take him or hold his own if Sentry went full out in the fight.

[C.T.]

If he was on Thing's level, his punch wouldn't have done anything to Sentry, just like Grimm's. But it did.

[Guest bigballerju]

Thing tried hitting a stable minded Sentry if I remember correctly whose power level was much higher. That's the difference. Namor was fighting a Sentry less stable minded and whose power level wasn't as high. Namor is on Thing's level since Thing defeated him it seems. Luke Cage I guess according to Marvel isn't far off either if Namor couldn't put him down with once punch and Cage was able to fight back.

 

Marvel doesn't keep to their character's power levels all the time. That's always been a problem with them. Shehulk, Thor, Sentry, Namor, and others are proof of that. It's actually very annoying.

[C.T.]

It is.

 

However, I still maintain Namor at his strongest can hang with the most physically powerful superhumans on Marvel Earth.

[kainboa]

Both Namor and Apocalypse has shown wildly varying power-levels, based on their stated capabilities and what we've seen them do in the comics however, Namor is completely outmatched.

 

Matter manipulation and high level telepathy, are two of the powers that Apocalypse has, which pretty much gives him an instant win.

[C.T.]

Yep, he easily wins with that.

[Guest skadoosh]

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Impressive stuff. What comic is the first image of Namor punching Sentry from?

 

Namor at his strongest can hang with the most physically powerful superhumans on Marvel Earth.

 

Matter manipulation and high level telepathy, are two of the powers that Apocalypse has, which pretty much gives him an instant win.

 

I agree with the above. Namor is a physical powerhouse, but Apocalypse wins this via his myriad other abilities. If it were a purely physical fight it would be different, but as it is Apocalypse is too versatile for Namor.

[comic_book_fan]

Thing tried hitting a stable minded Sentry if I remember correctly whose power level was much higher. That's the difference. Namor was fighting a Sentry less stable minded and whose power level wasn't as high. Namor is on Thing's level since Thing defeated him it seems. Luke Cage I guess according to Marvel isn't far off either if Namor couldn't put him down with once punch and Cage was able to fight back.

 

Marvel doesn't keep to their character's power levels all the time. That's always been a problem with them. Shehulk, Thor, Sentry, Namor, and others are proof of that. It's actually very annoying.

not to menton that version of the thing was supposed to be from back in the 80's the thing's strength has grown a great deal since then more times then not the thing has proven to be namor's equal in strength .

[C.T.]

No.

[Guest bigballerju]

I don't know about Thing's strength increasing but it seems right now he is on the same level as Namor if he can beat Namor underwater where Namor is suppose to be strongest. Sorry but Marvel seems to have it that way for now.

[C.T.]

Low showing for The Avenging Son.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

[Guest bigballerju]

Not the only one in recent years though which is the problem for Namor. AVP Wolverine has fought Namor and forced Namor to have to go underwater to become more powerful to defeat him. For every great feat of Namor their is a low one as well.

[comic_book_fan]

No.

that sentry fight where the thing tries to keep sentry out of reed's lab and hits him and it does nothing was supposed to be back in the 70's or 80's it was current sentry but he went back in time for some reason i do not recall at the moment and that ben was an earlier version and it has been stated in many issues of fantastic 4 that ben's strength increases through excercise and absorbing more of the radation as he becomes older 2 issues where this is stated right off hand was issues 388 and 552.

[DamagingRob]

Wow, Jean. They're havin' a field day, with this one. Carry on.