RakaiThwei Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I agree on the strength part because it seems the author didn't care about the abilities too much. It seems she just came up with shit regarding the strength, speed, and the way vampires get different abilities. Seriously, there is no way a Twilight vampire is a Class 100+. Like I said, it would be easier to take Edward's body weight and multiply that by one hundred for a more accurate number. Class 100+ is just ridiculous. The best way we could calculate Edward's strength is to weight his body according to the height of a man who is 6''2... However, we also need to figure out if the Twilight vampires are heavier than humans considering they are more akin to granite. So should we weight Edward with human weight or granite weight? Either way, I don't think it's going to matter because I have a feeling either weight would be ridiculous for a Twilight vampire. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Even if he could lift 350 tons... He can't beat Thor, Supes or Goku. They can all fly and use their superior speed to bomb the shit out of him. I know that's irrelevant in this fight but still. Poor Yautja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Eh, most of the things the vamps have done in the novels in terms of strength have been portrayed as without any effort or anything - so while it's outrageous, the figure Meyers gives is definitely the maximum while we can just figure out the minimum as to give ourselves a range of what they're capable of - namely using Marvel's standards perhaps. Though it goes without saying, they're definitely more powerful than even an Elder Yautja from what we've seen let alone what's been stated. Edit: We can just use Rob's weight to factor out the twinkling twit's weight, seeing as the granite aspect is only applied to the vamps in terms of durability, not all its characteristics. So 150 lbs to 160 lbs multiplied by a factor of a hundred would be 15,000 lbs to 16,000 lbs or respectively 7.5 tons to 8 tons. Keep in mind, this should be taken as the bare minimum, not the maximum of what the vamps can do, specifically since we have newborns and Emmett in Twilight that showcase the fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 ARGH *vulgarity* THE EDIT FUNCTION. -.- I edited the prior post taking into account calculations and it didn't show, which was a paragraph or so long. >.> Annoying. Edit: Oh I see - a hint: Whenever you hit edit, if you see any HTML coding in there, i.e. <p> or <b> or whatever the case may be, do not bother editing in there as it will not save. Exit it and come back into it til you do not see the coding any longer then it will save the edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 He doesn't have his manly man card yet. You only get that when you come of age.Nah, you gotta smash. And this rumble is a stomp. It's actually an injustice making Edward so powerful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Eh, most of the things the vamps have done in the novels in terms of strength have been portrayed as without any effort or anything - so while it's outrageous, the figure Meyers gives is definitely the maximum WHAT?!! Just... WHAT?!! So you're saying that a Twilight Vampire.. a sparking retard is potentially capable of lifting 350 tons maximum?! WHAT?!!! Though it goes without saying, they're definitely more powerful than even an Elder Yautja from what we've seen let alone what's been stated. The strength debate of the Yautja has been settled and Skirmisher and I have determined that the potential of the Yautja reaching 10 to 16 tons is definitely there, either way however you look at it that potential is there, and very few Yautja have reached that potential. Now when you say that the Twilight Vampires are more powerful, I assume you're speaking about their overall potential. Edit: We can just use Rob's weight to factor out the twinkling twit's weight, seeing as the granite aspect is only applied to the vamps in terms of durability, not all its characteristics. So 150 lbs to 160 lbs multiplied by a factor of a hundred would be 15,000 lbs to 16,000 lbs or respectively 7.5 tons to 8 tons. Keep in mind, this should be taken as the bare minimum, not the maximum of what the vamps can do, specifically since we have newborns and Emmett in Twilight that showcase the fact. As much as all of that sounds reasonable, I find it hard to accept Robert Pattinson's weight for the calculations because well.. Robert Pattinson isn't Edward Cullen, he just plays him in the movies and this is the book version we're dealing with. I mean I understand the calculations very well and see where you're going with this. So, for now let's take your calculations based on Pattinson's weight... If those are correct, then those numbers would match up to an experienced Warrior ranking Yautja. Already they would be a match for moderately high ranking Yautja but Elders would be more powerful than the minimum for Twilight Vampires... But really that's the minimum? That's... I don't even have words to describe the disbelief and frustration I have comprehending this. More and more I am hating Stephanie Meyer... Poor Yautja. They get no respect around here... No respect... Damn you Skadoosh for thinking this was a good idea... Damn you. [Fist shake] And this rumble is a stomp. It's actually an injustice making Edward so powerful... A member with common sense here who recognizes that this fight is a stomp and an injustice! And yes, it is an injustice for making the sparking buffoon so ridiculously overpowered! *vulgarity* you, Stephanie Meyer, *vulgarity* you. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'm sorry but I actually laughed at your smashing Meyers. It's rare for people to do that around here, making me laugh. And keep in mind, it's potentially there but it's also potentially not there, regarding the strength. I'm just being safe lol. And I don't mean overall potential, I mean primarily their strength. It's Stephanie Meyers, they're gonna be kinda stupid anyways - but it's not outrageous outrageous as 350 tons or whatever but it's definitely past the minimum I put down with Rob's weight calc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 This thread made me realize how much more I hate those f**king twilight vampires. Until this debate I didn't realize in the books that's how powerful they were. Damn so yea I was wrong on that Michael Corvin match. He is not on there level strength wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Funny thing is: The strength aspect was actually covered in more detail on that thread with Mike Corvin lol So perhaps you missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 LOL we didn't mention the thousand times more powerful then a human and stuff like what's been mentioned here. Yea we discussed it alot about the stopping the car and smashing the boulder but not that aspect that was mentioned in the books. God I hate these diamond skinned idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Actually it was. http://www.electricferret.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28450&st=60#entry374758 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest bigballerju Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Oh okay your right and I was horriblely wrong. Damn Meyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Rakai, can you shut the hell up about your Preds? Skadoosh already made it pretty clear he doesn't give a shit about your feelings for the Predators, or how you're "offended" that he put a Pred against a Twilight Vampire. It's downright pathetic, and the Predators aren't good characters, they're straight out horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'm sorry but I actually laughed at your smashing Meyers. It's rare for people to do that around here, making me laugh. Really, no one should lose to someone like Edward Cullen. Not anyone from Marvel, DC, AvP, Capcom, Namco, Star Wars.... No one.. But those abilities that the Twilight Vampires have ensures that they can beat a lot of street level characters... Really, for someone to lose to a creation of a hack horror-romance writer like Stephanie Meyer is just an insult to all other characters. I am frustrated and angry that Skadoosh chose to do this fight with such a stupid opponent. And while I am aware that the Twilight vampires are ridiculously over-powered and just badly written and ill-thought out, their capabilities ensure that they can take down a lot of street level characters, it happens that the kid set up my favorite character, my childhood hero and idol against a stupid, sparkling.. words can't even describe how bad Edward is as a character. Also, I kind of am humorously displaying it on purpose to make people laugh. It's Stephanie Meyers, they're gonna be kinda stupid anyways Words have never been more true. Rakai, can you shut the hell up about your Preds? Skadoosh already made it pretty clear he doesn't give a shit about your feelings for the Predators, or how you're "offended" that he put a Pred against a Twilight Vampire. It's downright pathetic, and the Predators aren't good characters, they're straight out horrible. You know, just because you got bullied in school and probably received your daily human booster shot from a trick named Jim, doesn't mean you need to take your frustrations out on me, kid. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Actually it was. http://www.electricf...=60#entry374758I remember, without clicking the link either. I guess it just got overlooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Oh joy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 This thread...just pure win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Meh - in an ideal world, matches like these would never happen. It's essentially not a big deal, it just so happens *Shrugs* And we could be civil, you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 And we could be civil, you guys I think I'll just go to his profile and hit the ignore button. -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 And we could be civil, you guys Maybe in an ideal world... though essentially, it's not a big deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.T. Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think I'll just go to his profile and hit the ignore button. -Rakai'Thwei Pure genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Maybe in an ideal world... though essentially, it's not a big deal...I C WUT U DID THAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakaiThwei Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pure genius. Actually, since the Forum got upgraded.. I had to go to my Ignore Functions and do everything from there. Really, the ignore function works wonders. It's a feature people should use more often! -Rakai'Thwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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