Guest skadoosh Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 A lot of what Terry did he was only capable of due to the suit, so no, he's not on a par with Bruce when he was Batman. And, again, their villains are not that comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boratz Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 There is really no chance of Arrow winning this, first off he is more like Batman from the Nolan series and he doesn't have all the over the top weapons like he does in comics. I will say he is pretty dang lethal when it comes to fighting. I don't know how he would do against the Bat but he can definitely hold his own. I've watched the entire series thus far and he is capable of quite a bit. He can go up against professional hit-men without any weapons what so ever. Like I said, I don't know how he would do against the Bat but don't underestimate this version of Oliver Queen. He is a beast when it comes to both fighting and when it comes to weapons. But like I said, he really doesn't have a chance against someone as over the top as Terry's Batman. Mainly because this version has such an advanced suit and with the skills he does have plus the suit, he would be way too much. Now if Terry didn't have the suit, now that would be much more of an even battle. I probably would have went with Olly but since Terry does, he really has no chance. Especially, since he doesn't have his wide variety of comic book trick arrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Yep, it's been nicely confirmed, Terry wins this pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 A lot of what Terry did he was only capable of due to the suit, so no, he's not on a par with Bruce when he was Batman. And, again, their villains are not that comparable. Yes they are. His villains in the future were way more powerful plus they were smart. Regardless of what you believe Bruce Wayne has said Terry is just as good a Batman as he was. Superman has said the same thing I think as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Look, they aren't even comparable as Batman. Terry had numerous advantages that Bruce didn't, such as superpowers, far more advanced technology, the strategic and tactical abilities of an aged Bruce, and more. If you were to pit Terry as Batman against Bruce as Batman, of course Terry would win, primarily because of his advanced Batsuit. If you were to give Terry a regular Batsuit similar to Bruce's, however, Wayne would school him. Likewise, if you gave Bruce the future Batsuit and knowledge on how to use it, he'd school Terry as well. Power is what gives Terry the edge over Bruce. In terms of skills, intelligence and experience, Wayne's got him beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Look, they aren't even comparable as Batman. Terry had numerous advantages that Bruce didn't, such as superpowers, far more advanced technology, the strategic and tactical abilities of an aged Bruce, and more. If you were to pit Terry as Batman against Bruce as Batman, of course Terry would win, primarily because of his advanced Batsuit. If you were to give Terry a regular Batsuit similar to Bruce's, however, Wayne would school him. Likewise, if you gave Bruce the future Batsuit and knowledge on how to use it, he'd school Terry as well. Power is what gives Terry the edge over Bruce. In terms of skills, intelligence and experience, Wayne's got him beat.Not that it really matters but Bruce knows how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 In current continuity, Bruce hasn't even developed that Batsuit yet. He created it late in his career, to compensate for his deteriorating physical state. Modern day Batman wouldn't know what to do with the Batsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 In current continuity, Bruce hasn't even developed that Batsuit yet. He created it late in his career, to compensate for his deteriorating physical state. Modern day Batman wouldn't know what to do with the Batsuit.true. I thought you were talking about Terry's Bruce. My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Didn't Terry's Bruce, as an old man, actually give Terry a lot of trouble in his regular old Batsuit? Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Didn't Terry's Bruce, as an old man, actually give Terry a lot of trouble in his regular old Batsuit? Heh.It sounds familiar but cant say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I think it was in the canon comic that was published while Batman Beyond was still running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Bruce Wayne gave Terry a gas that made him weak and took away his strength. In addition Terry was under spellbinder's control. Terry and Bruce fought together. Bruce was made younger for that episode and they fought side by side with no Batman suit. Remember we are talking DC Animated Universe. Not hard to believe Terry would be just as good as Batman as Bruce was. Like I said before Bruce Wayne has said so himself. Terry has fought outside the suit and showed to be just as good as Bruce Wayne was. Do you know skilled Terry is outside the suit? Terry was trained by Bruce Wayne outside the suit and close in skill to Bruce Wayne in fighting skills. Terry has high intellect, survived a fall from several stories without a batsuit, doing huge leaps without his suit Batman never did, and more. Terry has created cures, antidotes, and more. Terry also trained and honed his detective skills under Bruce. Outside the suit Terry is close in skill to Bruce Wayne. He has showed this many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 He hasn't shown anything CLOSE to Bruce Wayne's level outside of the suit. Creating antidotes would be a prime example to the superior tech he has compared to Bruce. Sorry, but Terry doesn't hold a candle to Bruce outside of the suit. The majority of the points you're bringing up are, at best, grasping at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 No not really since all this was shown on the show and comics which are still going on. This is DC Animated Universe. LOL why is it hard for people to believe that? I'm just trying to let people know he is close to Bruce in skill outside the suit and he isn't that far away. Remember Bruce Wayne trained him in everything that he learned himself when he was Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 snip See my previous comments, and what other people have said, including this: Look, they aren't even comparable as Batman. Terry had numerous advantages that Bruce didn't, such as superpowers, far more advanced technology, the strategic and tactical abilities of an aged Bruce, and more. If you were to pit Terry as Batman against Bruce as Batman, of course Terry would win, primarily because of his advanced Batsuit. If you were to give Terry a regular Batsuit similar to Bruce's, however, Wayne would school him. Likewise, if you gave Bruce the future Batsuit and knowledge on how to use it, he'd school Terry as well. Power is what gives Terry the edge over Bruce. In terms of skills, intelligence and experience, Wayne's got him beat. Even in the DC animated universe, Bruce is above Terry in the stated ways, and the suit is what gives Terry his edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Okay true Bruce is still above Terry in many ways and the suit does give him the edge. I just think Terry is not that far off from Bruce with alot of his good feats he has shown in that world outside of the suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Match Final ResultsUSER RATINGS B B B B Interesting way of writing this story. However, several grammar mistakes and Terry inexplicably attacking from jump almost earned this a "C" from me. SCORE Oliver Queen (Arrow): 5Batman Beyond: 24FPA: 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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