Energy Sword vs Light Saber

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Energy Sword(Halo series) vs Light Saber(do I have to say)

 

The Energy Sword is made of extremely hot plasma, and gets its shape from the plasma being ionized, and the magnets in the handle. If I am correct the Light Saber is hot plasma as well.

 

So if two were to hit one another, would be the same affect as two sabers hitting each other?

 

While we are at it......

 

Arbiter(Halo 3) vs Luke Skywalker(after he is done partying with Ewoks), armed with only their plasma based sword. Arbiter does have cloaking.

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Fight takes place in a dense jungle.

 

Winner by DEATH

[Guest sirmethos]

"if two were to hit one another, would be the same affect as two sabers hitting each other?"

 

No. The main reason for the effect when two light sabers hit each other, is the force field keeping the plasma contained(don't ask me how that works, lucas has never heard of physics)

 

On the other hand, it seems like the people that came up with the Energy Sword for Halo, has never heard of physics either. It's plasma, that's kept in a specific shape, by being ionized? Plasma is ionized as a default. That's what Plasma is: Ionized Gas.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Taken from the wiki:

The Type-1 Energy Weapon/Sword consists of a curved hilt, which houses an energy storage and generation device, as well as the blade projector; that forms acomposition of two highly magnetic polar points that shape and hold a partially ionized, free moving electron based gas into a blade-like form , stabilized by two small magnetic field generators built into the handle of the weapon — this forms and contains the oval shaped, ionized blades for which the weapon is recognized

[Guest skadoosh]

I think they would just hit each other the same way two energy swords or two lightsabers would, as they are both made of the same basic substance and neither is logical in any way.

[Guest force_echo]

On the other hand, it seems like the people that came up with the Energy Sword for Halo, has never heard of physics either. It's plasma, that's kept in a specific shape, by being ionized? Plasma is ionized as a default. That's what Plasma is: Ionized Gas.

It's called basic research. As in, typing energy sword into Google.

 

"This is due to the design of the weapon which utilizes magnetically sealed, partially ionized, free moving electron based gas rather than traditional shaped, solid matter."

[Guest skadoosh]

What does that mean, exactly? Regarding the OPs question?

[Guest sirmethos]

It's called basic research. As in, typing energy sword into Google.

 

"This is due to the design of the weapon which utilizes magnetically sealed, partially ionized, free moving electron based gas rather than traditional shaped, solid matter."

 

I already know this. My question was directed at the OP.

 

My 2 points still stand: 1. No, they won't make the same effect, since the effect is mainly due to the Force Field containing the plasma in the Light saber. 2. Neither Lucas, nor the people behind Halo, has apparently ever heard of physics.

[Guest Ruinus]

Both of them might as well be magic forcefields that hold the actual glowing part inside, since Halo 4 shows that the Plasma Swords can lift objects, something I don't think lightsabers can do.

 

I mean, both franchises already have magic sci-fi shields that aren't bothered to be explained, they might as well go the easier route and say "A lightsaber is a thin shield section that vibrates/turns on/off to achieve a heating/cutting effect" and "A Plasma Sword is actually just a variation of Covenant shield tech that creates a blade."

[Guest skadoosh]

If there's a forcefield around the plasma in a lightsaber blade, how does it cut through things? If it's the forcefield that does the cutting then why have the plasma there?

[Guest force_echo]

I already know this. My question was directed at the OP.

 

My 2 points still stand: 1. No, they won't make the same effect, since the effect is mainly due to the Force Field containing the plasma in the Light saber. 2. Neither Lucas, nor the people behind Halo, has apparently ever heard of physics.

Even then, the OP said- "and gets its shape from the plasma being ionized, and the magnets in the handle."

 

Actually, "Other electromagnetic energy fields and coherent energy were also repelled by lightsabers' arcs. These include most force fields, blaster bolts, and other lightsaber blades." Considering the magnetic field of an energy sword is an "electromagnetic energy field", then yes, a Plasma sword would repel a lightsaber. Especially since in the Star Wars Universe magnetic seals can block lightsabers and blaster bolts.

[Guest Ruinus]

If there's a forcefield around the plasma in a lightsaber blade, how does it cut through things? If it's the forcefield that does the cutting then why have the plasma there?

 

The answers all over the place, the wiki article can't even decide the blade is:

"The weapon consisted of a blade of pure plasma emitted from the hilt and suspended in a force containment field"

Or if its

"Once focused by the crystals, the plasma was sent through a series of field energizers and modulation circuitry within the emitter matrix that further focused it, making it into a coherent beam of energy that was projected from the emitter"

 

I suppose there could be different forms of lightsabers, one that is pure energy and another that is plasma. Eh.

Presumably though, both types work by having the force field keep in the heat from the blade, but actually touching the blade lets you feel that temperature. So, I guess, imagine a fire that you can't actually feel... up until you touch it and you get burned.

 

 

[Guest Ruinus]

BTW:

Type-1 Energy Weapon/Sword:

The Type-1 Energy Weapon is also vulnerable to other magnetic fields, as they can block, disrupt, or possibly even alter the functionality of the sword. Two energy swords clashing together create a small disruption of energy as a result of the same type of magnetic fields clashing together, this clash has a slight area of effect damage that can affect the combatants.

 

So if we believe that both lightsabers and plasma swords are electromagnetic in nature (the fields containing them I mean) it looks like the lightsaber is going to win via the plasma sword getting messed up or something.

[Guest skadoosh]

That's what i've been thinking, that the blades are encased in a forcefield that, essentially, keeps what's inside it inside, but lets things from outside it pass through.

[Guest Ruinus]

None of them make sense anyway, since even if some magneticblahblahblah shield is keeping the plasma in a blade shape a magnetic field wouldn't keep the plasma from frying everyone trying to wield the blade. Magnetic fields wouldn't deflect temperature away or anything silly like that.

[Guest skadoosh]

Oh, no, i never said that it made sense, just that that's what i was thinking, personally, from what i know and have found out here, etc.

 

This kind of stuff never "makes sense".

[RakaiThwei]

Aside from a few technical specs here and there.. Don't these weapons essentially do the same thing?

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest Ruinus]

Aside from a few technical specs here and there.. Don't these weapons essentially do the same thing?

 

-Rakai'Thwei

 

Yes, they are both glowing energy swords.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

So what about the fight? Any thoughts, any one?

[RakaiThwei]

Yes, they are both glowing energy swords.

 

Yeah, so according to the match up to see which weapon collides or passes through... I mean to me, it seems like both glowing swords would just clash without any ill-effect.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Guest skadoosh]

That is more likely, yes.

 

As for the fight, it's pretty close in terms of sword fighting skills, but Luke Force powers give him the win. He could sense the Arbiter, so it's invisibility wouldn't help much, if at all, and while the Arbiter may in fact surpass him in close-combat prowess, Luke has the Force to utilize, which is just too versatile for the Arbiter to survive several attacks from.

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

This is Luke pretty early in his Jedi career, he doesn't have the super powers he has later in the comics.

[G4hardcore]

None of them make sense anyway, since even if some magneticblahblahblah shield is keeping the plasma in a blade shape a magnetic field wouldn't keep the plasma from frying everyone trying to wield the blade. Magnetic fields wouldn't deflect temperature away or anything silly like that.

 

Actually, a magnetic field could do exactly that. You're saying it's silly, but our planet's magnetosphere is the only thing protecting us from the brunt of coronal mass ejections and solar flares, which are essentially blasts of plasma hurtling through space thanks to the sun. It really dpends on how strong that magnetism is in proportion to the amount/intensity of plasma being contained. Furthermore, magnetism is the force that prevents people from walking through walls and falling through floors. It's pretty concievable to imagine that they could have an effect on plasma, at least in some way.

[G4hardcore]

Here's an interesting article I just found about the modern day techniques used to contain plasma. You don't have to read it, but it exists, and I found it pretty interesting.

 

http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/magnetic_confinement/magnetic_confinement.html

[Guest force_echo]

Ruinus never said the magnetic fields couldn't contain plasma, he said they couldn't contain heat, which they can't. The Earth's Magnetosphere protects from radiation and ionized particles, not temperature. Whoever's wielding the plasma sword should have their hand melted off from being that close to superhot plasma.

[G4hardcore]

Magnetic fields can't contain heat at all? Are you sure?