Guest force_echo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Umm, considering heat has nothing to do with electricity or magnetism, but the transferring of molecular kinetic energy from one matter to another, no, it can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Heat has nothing to do with electricity or magnetism... And yet heat carried through electromagnetism is why life on Earth exists, and by extension, why you're able to tell me here and now that they have nothing to do with each other. It's just a little ironic. Heat can be transported by radiation, and the magnetism can deflect/repell radiation, and therefore, heat. But you are right in that magnetism can't contain pure, raw heat. However, the fact that magnetism can affect sources that generate heat means you're right on a technicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruinus Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 But that's what I said in the first place? Also, heat carried through electromagnetism started life on Earth? EDIT: Oh you mean sunlight? Yeah... but no one made the claim that EM can't cause heat (photons striking the surface of the Earth and raising its temperature) but that electromagnetic fields won't stop/shield from heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 But that's what I said in the first place? Also, heat carried through electromagnetism started life on Earth?I didn't say heat carried by EM started life, but life could not have risen without heat, that's for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 EDIT: Oh you mean sunlight? Yeah... but no one made the claim that EM can't cause heat (photons striking the surface of the Earth and raising its temperature) but that electromagnetic fields won't stop/shield from heat.I've already stated that magnetism cannot directly affect pure heat. It can, however, affect heat sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deojusto Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Force sense can certainly detect cloaking, and unlike the lightsaber, an energy blade runs out of power pretty quick so it may look bad for the elite. The best chance of victory the elite has is to overpower Luke. Swordsmanship isn't entirely centered on who has the sharpest sword, and has more to do with who's fastest, and in some cases strongest. The elite wins on both of those categories. Even if Luke blocks the energy sword with the saber he doesn't have the muscle mass to hold off the elite, so blocking it is kind of irrelevant when the other guy's momentum just keeps going . In a pure sword fight the elite has a chance because its more about the swordsman then the sword. Luke could still win too because I don't know how you'd categorize his skill level with the lightsaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 This is Luke pretty early in his Jedi career, he doesn't have the super powers he has later in the comics. This is Luke from after the sixth Star Wars film. Luke can do plenty of stuff with the Force at this level, and more than enough to beat the Arbiter in a sword fight. Force sense can certainly detect cloaking, and unlike the lightsaber, an energy blade runs out of power pretty quick so it may look bad for the elite. The best chance of victory the elite has is to overpower Luke. Swordsmanship isn't entirely centered on who has the sharpest sword, and has more to do with who's fastest, and in some cases strongest. The elite wins on both of those categories. Even if Luke blocks the energy sword with the saber he doesn't have the muscle mass to hold off the elite, so blocking it is kind of irrelevant when the other guy's momentum just keeps going . In a pure sword fight the elite has a chance because its more about the swordsman then the sword. Luke could still win too because I don't know how you'd categorize his skill level with the lightsaber. Good points. The Arbiter would almost definitely win if it was just a sword fight, but seeing as Luke has the versatility and sheer power of the Force on-side he wins this fight. Not only can he sense where the Arbiter is despite him being invisible but he can react faster using the Force, and he can enhance the force of his blows, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Heat has nothing to do with electricity or magnetism... And yet heat carried through electromagnetism is why life on Earth exists, and by extension, why you're able to tell me here and now that they have nothing to do with each other. It's just a little ironic. Heat can be transported by radiation, and the magnetism can deflect/repell radiation, and therefore, heat. But you are right in that magnetism can't contain pure, raw heat. However, the fact that magnetism can affect sources that generate heat means you're right on a technicality.That's THE SUN. In reality, radiation is an extremely inefficient way to transfer heat, that's why you don't instantly die of cold when you go into space, there's no matter to transfer your heat to. But with a plasma sword, there's air all around it, which means convection and conduction still applies, which means that the heat is going to affect you if you hold a plasma sword. Come on kids, this is literally middle school physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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