Guest tomisntblue Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 So, does Voldemort actually have any spells that would affect Loki, and if so, how? Don't take my post to mean that's how it would play out. I don't know enough about Voldemort to say if his magic would affect Loki, nor have we seen what resistance movie Loki has to magic (it's safe to assume some, but there's no way of knowing). I was just offering a situation that I could see playing out *In the case of* Voldemort's magic not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah, i got that, but my question still stands. Voldemort is gonna need spells that actually affect Loki to win this. Good point regarding magic resistance by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah that is a good point about magic resistance. Didn't think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's pretty much the deciding factor, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Voldermort cannot die thanks to his horcruxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I don't know, the citizens of Germany held no threat to him what so ever and he felt the need to make them cower.That was part of his pla--He wasn't doing it to lord over them. He was passing the time, waiting for SHIELD to catch up to him, as part of his plan.That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Loki still crushes Voldemort's current form - it's still incapacitation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Unless Voldemort returns within the next few moments by means of apparition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Technically this is Voldemort from the last film, all but one Horcruxes had been destroyed by then iirc - unless this is AFTER Harry died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Even so, that leaves one last horcrux. The final Voldemort might not be in a great, merciful mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Well, in the last book/movie there were a few horcruxes left. Ravenclaw's lost Diadem, Nagini, and Harry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G4hardcore Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 True. So he's still got a few strikes. I figure if he gets taken out once, he'll come back and finish the job with the full force of the element of surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 However, I'd like to point out that it might take a while for Voldemort to recover. I happen to think Voldemort wins, barely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I can be persuaded to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If it takes awhile to recover... That's still being incapped and therefore Loki can win by that virtue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Voldermort cannot die thanks to his horcruxes. They are not a factor in this fight. Voldemort is as he was in the last film, but there are no Horcruxes involved in this scenario. Say, i guess, that all the bits of Voldemort's soul are in his body. Loki still crushes Voldemort's current form - it's still incapacitation? If it takes awhile to recover... That's still being incapped and therefore Loki can win by that virtue? Yep, those count as incapacitation in this fight. I happen to think Voldemort wins, barely though. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 One Avada Kadavra spell would be all it would take to take down Loki permanently. Also, Voldemort can shield himself from a lot of the spells demonstrated by Loki in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 One Avada Kadavra spell would be all it would take to take down Loki permanently. Also, Voldemort can shield himself from a lot of the spells demonstrated by Loki in the movies. And Loki can't shield himself from Voldemort's spells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 He hasn't demonstrated any ability of the sort, to my knowledge, in the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I believe he had teleportation and his clones, so he doesn't necessarily need to shield himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I believe he had teleportation and his clones, so he doesn't necessarily need to shield himself? Indeed, he did. But Voldemort can also teleport and I don't think the illusions will matter much if he uses a burst area effect as he did in the end of the 5th movie. Loki would require at least some means of raw magical deflection or resistance to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Actually, I'm going to do a bit more research about an aspect that could def. improve Loki's chances of winning. Specifically, the fact that he's half frost giant. In the HP universe, I'm not sure if half-giants aren't as vulnerable as wizards when it comes to magical effects so I will post again when I'm done. If Half giants are indeed a bit resistant to magic, then Loki wins this. EDIT: okay, so half giants are indeed resistant to magic. in the Order of the Phoenix, the ministry attacks Hagrid during Harry's OWL exam up in the astronomy tower, and most of the spells "bounce" off of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure Hagrid tanked several stupification spells in the last book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'm pretty sure Hagrid tanked several stupification spells in the last book. Indeed. As well as in the fifth book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 half giants are indeed resistant to magic. in the Order of the Phoenix, the ministry attacks Hagrid during Harry's OWL exam up in the astronomy tower, and most of the spells "bounce" off of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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