The Avengers vs A Random Team

[Guest skadoosh]

The Avengers, consisting of the comic book versions of the following:

 

Iron Man - classic armor

Thor - standard level, with Mjolnir

Hulk - standard level

Captain America - with his shield

Hawkeye - with his bow and tons of arrows

Black Widow - with two pistols and a knife

 

vs

 

A Random Team, consisting of the stated versions of the following:

 

Spawn, without the 9999 power-limit but before God-level

Dante - with a sword and two handguns

Zeus - as seen in Immortals

Hellboy - with his gun

The Crow - standard level

John Constantine - standard equipment

 

 

They are fighting in New York, on an alternate Earth devoid of other super-people. The military may get involved, and there are civilians around, but they can take the fight elsewhere if they wish, obviously. To win one team must kill or totally incapacitate all members of the opposing team. They are all in character. Neither team knows anything about the other aside from what they look like.

 

 

Opinions?

[Guest potterpuppetpals]

Not really a random team. They all have demonic qualities, no?

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Zeus is the opposite of demonic...

[Guest potterpuppetpals]

OK, maybe they all have magical qualities then. Anyways, I think the magic team wins.

[Guest bigballerju]

Team Random wins easily. Dante, Spawn, Zeus, and Hellboy beat Team One senseless.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

I'm pretty sure Thor walks all over team 2 single-handedly, depending on what version of Spawn this is.

[Guest Darxeth]

Thor solos.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

Cause I like to pair things up:

 

Iron Man vs Spawn - I don't know enough about Spawn to judge.

Thor vs Zeus - If this was Marvel's version of Zeus, Thor loses. Zeus in immortals seems less powerful to me so Thor wins.

 

Hulk vs Hellboy - Too big a strength difference. Hulk wins.

 

Captain America vs Dante - I don't know anything about Dante.

 

Hawkeye vs John Constantine - I know Constantine's got powerful magic, but had the impression he's kind of a wimp in a straight fight. I dunno.

 

Black Widow vs The Crow - Crow is too powerful for Natasha.

 

I'm too ignorant with too many of these characters to vote.

[G4hardcore]

I can say Dante has Class 100 strength, an almost instantaneous healing factor, bullet-timing reflexes, magic weapons, and a "Devil Trigger" that amplifies all his attributes considerably.

 

http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Dante#Powers_and_abilities

[Guest skadoosh]

Not really a random team. They all have demonic qualities, no?

 

Nope.

 

OK, maybe they all have magical qualities then. Anyways, I think the magic team wins.

 

Yep. And why do you think they win?

 

Cause I like to pair things up:

 

They're not paired up, though, so that's not really what would happen. They are all fighting each other.

 

I can say Dante has Class 100 strength, an almost instantaneous healing factor, bullet-timing reflexes, magic weapons, and a "Devil Trigger" that amplifies all his attributes considerably.

 

Thanks for the details on Dante, dude. What are your thoughts on the fight?

 

I'm pretty sure Thor walks all over team 2 single-handedly, depending on what version of Spawn this is.

 

This is Spawn without the 9999 cap on his powers, but before he was God-level, obviously.

[Guest skadoosh]

Thor solos.

 

You sure? Considering Dante's Devil Trigger mode, all of Spawn's powers and the relatively impressive abilities of Zeus i doubt Thor could solo this.

[Guest bigballerju]

Regular Thor is most definitely gone lose here. Seriously Spawn with his necro powers without the 9999 limit could definitely defeat him. You add in Zeus to help put and Thor goes down easily. Hellboy could knockout standard Hulk in a battle and with Dante to back him up with his devil trigger against Ironman they take out those two. Constantine with his magic and Crow easily take out the other 3.

[Guest Djgambrell]

I can say Dante has Class 100 strength, an almost instantaneous healing factor, bullet-timing reflexes, magic weapons, and a "Devil Trigger" that amplifies all his attributes considerably.

 

http://devilmaycry.w...s_and_abilities

In one of the novels he is decapitated. He picked it up and sowed it on later.

[Guest force_echo]

You're description of Spawn still isn't specific enough. If you're talking after he kills Malebolgia, then he wins against the entire opposing team. Before that, when he unlocked the true potential of his suit, he'd probably be a fairly good match for Thor.

[Guest bigballerju]

Force is right. Honestly either that he mentioned with Spawn would defeat Thor. With Zeus who in the Immortals movie showed weapons creation, super-strength, super-speed, and more to back him up Thor goes down for sure.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

I can go with the consensus that the random team wins, but I have a couple of questions.

 

First, what does Constantine do in this fight? He's powerful, yes, but he rarely if ever demonstrates that power in a fight. He's a con-man who isn't built for this kind of brawl. If there was a story here in which John could manipulate the Avengers, I could buy it, but in a straight brawl, I don't see him being a factor.

 

Also...

 

Hellboy could knockout standard Hulk in a battle

 

I have never seen anything that suggests this is possible. Hellboy has an overpowered pistol with fancy demon-killing ammunition, but that's going to mean less than nothing to a monster that shrugs off tank shells. He is immensely strong, but had never (at least that I know) performed feats of strength that come close to rivaling Hulk's.

 

I don't know all that much about Hellboy so I might be missing something. Am I?

[Guest bigballerju]

Constantine is a magic sorcerer. He can summon demons to help him in battle, create shields to protect him from attacks, soul storms, raise the dead, hellfire, and more. Yea he most definitely is Factor. Hellboy has superhuman strength, healing factor, superhuman durability, and more. Very possible in a fight he could knock out standard Hulk. The max of his strength is unknown. However standard Hulk isn't on such a level where its impossible. Even Rhino and others showed the ability to battle Standard Hulk. Also Hellboy's gun is modified to kill supernatural beings and is no ordinary gun. Whose to say it wouldn't hurt Hulk. Hellboy could possibly defeat Hulk and even if he couldn't he has Zeus to help out.

[corvette1710]

Hulk isn't supernatural. In fact, kind of the opposite. The bullets would crumple on him like the bullet off Superman's eye. Hellboy loses.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

This is Spawn without the 9999 cap on his powers, but before he was God-level, obviously.

 

Yeah, but that's like saying "this is Goku from after the first episode of Dragon Ball, but before the last episode of DBZ".

 

Also, depending on what Hellboy feats you consider canon, he could be a match for Hulk. In the Savage Dragon crossover, he traded blows with the Dragon (who is most definitely in standard Hulk's league of strength) and staggered a skyscraper-sized monster with a punch from his right hand.

[Guest tomisntblue]

Hulk isn't supernatural. In fact, kind of the opposite. The bullets would crumple on him like the bullet off Superman's eye. Hellboy loses.

 

But do Hellboy's bullets only work on the supernatural? Or is it that they themselves have supernatural powers?

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

The Samaritan's (Hellboy's gun) fires ammo that is described as...

 

These rounds, custom-made by Hellboy himself, are tipped with explosive shells that contain white oak, holy water, garlic, and silver shavings. These ingredients, each bearing a folkloric power to impede evil and/or specific monsters (e.g. vampires, werewolves, witches, etc.), have the potential to injure many of the foes Hellboy may face.

 

Hulk is not particularly vulnerable to white oak, holy water, garlic, or silver.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

From the Dark Horse Database...

 

The extent of Hellboy's strength is unclear, but he has, for example, torn down a large tree and hurlet it at an opponent. He has also thrown opponents weighing at least four to five hundred pounds.

 

So, he's freakishly strong... except when compared to a monster like the Hulk.

 

 

This is from an issue of the Incredible Hulk in the '70s (couldn't find the issue #) What this pannel doesn't show is that chunk of rock Hulk is lifting extends up several hundred feet. That's thousands of times the weight of anything Hellboy has done.

 

And yes, Rhino has battled "standard" Hulk, but he's been badly beaten every time.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Like I said, it depends on,what you consider canon for Hellboy.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

Are there much greater feats of strength for Hellboy?

 

My impression is that he's stronger than Spider-man but not as strong as the Thing, but I don't know as much about the character as I'd like.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Also, depending on what Hellboy feats you consider canon, he could be a match for Hulk. In the Savage Dragon crossover, he traded blows with the Dragon (who is most definitely in standard Hulk's league of strength) and staggered a skyscraper-sized monster with a punch from his right hand.