C.T. Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 You ever yelled at something that didn't hurt? I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Just a simple question. Can he take a punch like this? I know Adam has a crazy durability, but I never seen him take a punch that can shatter reality.It was never the question of him withstanding a reality shattering punch - iirc the only one who survived the destruction of a reality was someone like Superboy Prime. And he can still be surprised as to the strength behind the blow just as well The whole point was: He didn't incur any signs of visible physical damage. If all you have is an expression on his face, then you've nothing. o,o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 It was never the question of him withstanding a reality shattering punch - iirc the only one who survived the destruction of a reality was someone like Superboy Prime.That was a "full punch" that I was talking about. So it is said Adam can not survive a "full punch" from Prime. And he can still be surprised as to the strength behind the blow just as well The whole point was: He didn't incur any signs of visible physical damage. If all you have is an expression on his face, then you've nothing. o,o I'm not really arguing against Adam being hurt by Prime. Prime was just toying with Adam. I was arguing that Adam can't take a reality shattering punch by Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 That was a "full punch" that I was talking about. So it is said Adam can not survive a "full punch" from Prime. I'm not really arguing against Adam being hurt by Prime. Prime was just toying with Adam. I was arguing that Adam can't take a reality shattering punch by Prime.The second part was meant in response to AvP Beyond that, all I said was, neither of them harmed one another in their 'fight' - and it's not incorrect Which means the point you brought up was pointless in the first place anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dinsdale Piranha Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Pre-Crisis Captain Marvel (SHAZAM) and Black Adam would trade punches while having a casual conversation. Neither was particularly affected by the blows. Their invulnerability (back then at least) appeared to be on a much higher level then their strength, maybe because it was the power of Zeus vs the strength of Hercules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He doesn't look like he's surprised, he looks like he's in pain. I don't know about you guys, but I don't scream and contort my facial features when I'm surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The second part was meant in response to AvP Beyond that, all I said was, neither of them harmed one another in their 'fight' - and it's not incorrect Which means the point you brought up was pointless in the first place anyways. My bad. I thought you were responding to me specifically since you quoted my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He doesn't look like he's surprised, he looks like he's in pain. I don't know about you guys, but I don't scream and contort my facial features when I'm surprised....Um, some people do scream and contort their faces when they're surprised WHO CARES ABOUT YOU And it doesn't refute my point regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He doesn't look like he's surprised, he looks like he's in pain. I don't know about you guys, but I don't scream and contort my facial features when I'm surprised.Then you sir, are a stone faced bad ass, cause if someone pops around a corner and surprises/startles me, I usually yell out "Oh shit". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Anyways.... WINZZZZZZ He does this to Zod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Then you sir, are a stone faced bad ass, cause if someone pops around a corner and surprises/startles me, I usually yell out "Oh shit". And how the heck is that at all like being punched in the face by a guy you've been preparing yourself to fight for two pages? He looks way more like he's in pain than surprised. I see no point to refute, Jaeger. Also, where's the evidence of this "complete invulnerability to physical damage" of Black Adam's I've heard so much about? I've seen him being hurt physically by Superman, Martian Manhunter and quite a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 You've yet to actually shown visible signs of physical damage to him, other than a surprised and/or pained expression. And no one (least I of all), said complete invulnerability - I have said something along the lines of extreme blunt resistance or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 There's a difference between being hurt and being scarred. If I got slapped in the face it'd hurt, but there wouldn't be any visible marks. Seriously, I've seen surprised people, and none of them looked like that. I never said you stated he was invulnerable, but there have been others on the site who've claimed this; but there's lots of evidence to the contrary. He's not much more durable than Superman, if at all. Now, for the customary smiley spam: :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Actually there would be a visible mark momentarily. And durability consists limits of withstanding anything before actually taking damage - hurting =/= actually being physically damaged. I'll say it again: You've yet to proven he was physically damaged visibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 AND YOU'VE YET TO PROVE HE WASN'T! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dinsdale Piranha Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Actually there would be a visible mark momentarily. In real life, yeah, but they never seem to do that in comics. And durability consists of actually taking damage - hurting =/= actually being physically damaged. I'll say it again: You've yet to proven he was physically damaged visibly. I agree, what we see is a fairly typical comic book response to getting hit. There are many times when Thor or Hulk or Superman have had the same expression, even when punched by someone much weaker than they were. A singly panel doesn't give enough information for us to judge. It's what he looks like after getting hit that gives the needed information. Having said that, I'm inclined (assuming Zod is fully charged) to give Adam a small advantage in invulnerability, and a very small edge in strength. Zod has an edge in versatility because of his array of powers but he's not as experienced in these as Superman. I give it to Adam, but only after a very tough battle. Nice match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The burden of claim that he was injured falls on you - so do so or concede as that roundabout doesn't work here, because what I said still applies as he wasn't visibly damaged You can feel sensation of pain but that does not always in any way or form indicate damage, which casts more a shadow of doubt on your argument than mine. So I'll ask again: Prove it or concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 The burden of claim that he was injured falls on you - so do so or concede as that roundabout doesn't work here, because what I said still applies as he wasn't visibly damaged You can feel sensation of pain but that does not always in any way or form indicate damage, which casts more a shadow of doubt on your argument than mine. So I'll ask again: Prove it or concede. And I already have-- he was clearly in pain as he flew backwards, because no surprised person makes that expression. You can interpret it however you want but stop with the "Prove it or concede" pigshit, because I already have. You just aren't accepting it. Also, it's extremely logical to assume that Prime's hit hurt Adam, considering he's been hurt by the likes of Superman and Martian Manhunter, who are both dwarfed by Prime in strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 It wasn't clear if any at all so - your fault Eh, Black Adam has been renown more for his insane blunt durability as per the instance between he and Prime - but iirc, he's divided his power before so I can't really say if he did or not throughout the other instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Adam can withstand a full punch from Prime. Prime bitch smacking Adam means nothing. Adam has punched Prime too. Both don't proof anything other then the fact both would fight each other to a stand still. Prime has punched Adam with a full fist and nothing happened to Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Actually it's stated in all his bios that he is invulnerable especially to physical harm. Things like punches don't do much if anything to him. Other attacks such as immense fire, electricity, magic, etc. are what can hurt him most. Show other images from the prime vs Adam fights in infinite crisis and the point is proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 And a reality punch isn't entirely physical, SO STFU STRANGLEHOLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 And a reality punch isn't entirely physical, SO STFU STRANGLEHOLD Wow....What did I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 His level of durability is the reason in WW3 story they combined dc heroes couldn't stop him. They only prevailed by captain marvel changing his magic word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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