xLEGACYx Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Iron Man has 1 month prep time with all of his resources and knowledge. Thanos has no prep time. Since we haven't seen anything from the Godkiller armor, he's using Bleeding Edge.This is your match parameters. Thanos gets his power from Death and like someone else said he has other various power sources as well. Lets not get off topic though. Iron Man gets beaten in about 1 min with 1 month of prep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 This is your match parameters. Thanos gets his power from Death and like someone else said he has other various power sources as well. Lets not get off topic though. Iron Man gets beaten in about 1 min with 1 month of prep.Where in this match did I say "Thanos with Death's power". Or "Thanos AND Death". This is only Thanos, without any help from Death, I've never "changed" anything, again, that's like assuminge every match with Thor is Odinforce Thor. Or every match with Superman is when Superman has sundipped for half an hour. Or that every match with Batman also has Robin in it. I didn't mention a single damn thing about Death. This is Thanos' own power. Only an idiot could misconstrue the OP. No, Thanos gets beaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Where in this match did I say "Thanos with Death's power". Or "Thanos AND Death". This is only Thanos, without any help from Death, I've never "changed" anything, again, that's like assuminge every match with Thor is Odinforce Thor. Or every match with Superman is when Superman has sundipped for half an hour. Or that every match with Batman also has Robin in it. I didn't mention a single damn thing about Death. This is Thanos' own power. Only an idiot could misconstrue the OP. No, Thanos gets beaten.How? How does he get beaten? Also Thanos power comes from Death normally, so thats his normal power set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indolent Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If you already decided that Thanos would get beaten in the scenario, why even bother posting it - it just shows bias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If you already decided that Thanos would get beaten in the scenario, why even bother posting it - it just shows bias?Me thinks we have a winner!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 What the hell are you talking about? What parameters? It's Thanos with his un-augmented, normal power level. When someone puts Thor in a match, you don't automatically assume it's Odin-Force Thor, unless you're a retard. Oh wait, I forgot who I'm dealing with here. We have never seen Thanos "in his un-augmented, normal power level.", even the first appearance of Thanos, was after he had augmented himself several times. Also, unless otherwise stated, it's normally the current version of the characters. To paraphrase your own example, when someone puts Thor in a match, you don't automatically assume it's Classic Thor. When people generally see Thanos in a match, they automatically assume that it is Thanos who is denied entry to Death's realm, even though that's no longer the case. Iron Man doesn't have the firepower to actually hurt Thanos. Nor does he have the defensive capabilities, to take a full powered blast from Thanos. And he hasn't shown anything, that definitively shows that he can take Thanos down with 1 month of prep. On the other hand, Thanos has shown, on several occasions, that he is easily capable of taking down someone on Iron Man's level. With sufficient prep. Iron Man could probably do it. 1 month just isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Keep in mind that this a very old armor. The Bleeding Edge is more advanced than all of his other armors put together. Odin wasn't trying to kill Thanos. Iron Man could take an annoyed slap from Odin too. And the funny thing is, Thanos was still injured by the blast. If Odin was actually trying to kill Thanos, he would have obliterated him in one shot. Now I can ask was that Galactus starving...And that blast didn't even knock Galactus down like Thanos one did. And I doubt Iron Man could take a blast from Odin anyways. And Thor was piercing through Iron Man's Thor buster armor with his blows... Not trying to use ABC logic but Thanos>Thor. Oh and simple question....Can the bleeding edge armor survive a blast/explosion like this?http://media.comicvi...nos12___019.jpg 1. Yes, and Iron Man was in his classic armor when that happened. He's upgraded just a little since then. 2. I never said he was. He's considered essential to the Universe by SS, and that's why he's never actually tried to kill Thanos. 3. What are you talking about? I'm pretty sure that currently, Mar-Vell isn't even alive. 1. Thanos recently fought the Avengers again and he solo'ed(if thats even a word ) and owned them(Iron Man included) . It wasn't until the Elders of the Universe and the In-Betweener came in to help stop Thanos.​2. Okay...My bad if I misunderstood you. But Surfer has tried to blast Thanos with a full blast but it didn't even do anything to him.3. It happened recently in Thanos Imperative. Mar-Vell was the main antagonist and he was at skyfather level. Thanos was going one on one with him. Until Death came in and killed him by just one shotting him and collapsing the cancerverse. Except he can't because Thanos isn't the one with the prep, he is being caught completely unaware, I don't get what part of this you don't understand. And Tony can do the same thing if he wanted to. Oh, Classic Drax, big whoop. Iron Man matched Classic Drax with the armor he had in the 70s. Also, he's dumb as a sack of bricks. It's not like Tony is going to get into a fist fight with Thanos. In fact, he could play on Thanos' psychological weaknesses. I see the "fight" being as more of a mental one. Also, on a physical level, Thanos doesn't have significantly augmented reflexes, relying on his superior strength in physical combat. Stark has vastly superhuman reflexes with Hypervelocity and Extremis. Yes, he has. In fact, the Marvel Wiki lists him as being completely immune with his armor on and with his SHIELD mental blocks. Noh-Varr confirmed this in an Avengers issue. I just looked it up, and Thanos isn't immortal anymore. One question Force_Echo and not to be a jerk. Why make a match and than try to argue against the character you put in the match...What I can't get is why you make a match and than try to decide the winner. Iron Man having prep doesn't me anything. Like Sirmethos pointed out, he;s going to need a lot more prep time. And I keep telling you what resources does Tony have(besides the reality gem) that would put Thanos down? Thanos resources and the resources that he's fought against outclass the resources that Tony has. Tony resources is mostly Earth based, while the people Thanos went up against are universal... 1,I doubt Tony fought classic Drax at full power like Thanos did.2. Thanos doesn't prefer fighting h2h. He'll probably one shot Tony by one of his energy blast.3. Yes a mental one where Tony would lose. Thanos intelligence>>>Tony's by a long shot.4. Not to sound like a dick...But Thanos has fought people with way faster reflexes than any armor Tony has. Take his fight with Fallen one for example.5. I hope so he is completely immune, because Thanos was able to get into the mind of Galactus. Also Incorrect about Thanos not being immortal. Where have you read that? He is still rejected by Death so he is still immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirmethos Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 "Oh and simple question....Can the bleeding edge armor survive a blast/explosion like this?http://media.comicvi...nos12___019.jpg" That scan doesn't show anything about the scale of the explosion. For all we know(looking only at that scan) it could be nothing more than a grenade exploding. "I hope so he is completely immune, because Thanos was able to get into the mind of Galactus." Yea, when Galactus didn't have his defenses up, and was distracted. -.- Why is it, that when people try to debate for Thanos, using feats, they always tend to bring up his least impressive feats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVP vs The Terminator Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Didn't Galactus just shove him out after a few seconds, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 "Oh and simple question....Can the bleeding edge armor survive a blast/explosion like this?http://media.comicvi...nos12___019.jpg" That scan doesn't show anything about the scale of the explosion. For all we know(looking only at that scan) it could be nothing more than a grenade exploding. That happened with his fight with Fallen One. This was the aftermath of the blast.http://imageshack.us...thanos12014.jpg "I hope so he is completely immune, because Thanos was able to get into the mind of Galactus." Yea, when Galactus didn't have his defenses up, and was distracted. -.- Why is it, that when people try to debate for Thanos, using feats, they always tend to bring up his least impressive feats? *Sigh* I NEVER said it was impressive feat, I never gave it hint that it was. I was trying to make a point that Thanos is capable of getting into the minds of beings that are way above mortals such as Tony. That was the point. Never did I imply that it was a impressive feat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 This doesn't seem all that fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Void Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 This doesn't seem all that fair. Its not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skadoosh Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If Stark had, i dunno, a whole decade to develop some kind of massively advanced, super-powerful technological weapon to destroy Thanos with then i'm sure he'd have a chance, but even then i doubt he'd win. Thanos is just.. A lot more powerful and a lot harder to kill than Stark is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeremi Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 *Tony blasts in* *Thanos tanks and monologues* *Murders Tony* The End Or to sum it up... Does Iron Man with one month prep have what it takes to take down Thanos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKss2uYpih8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Now I can ask was that Galactus starving...And that blast didn't even knock Galactus down like Thanos one did. And I doubt Iron Man could take a blast from Odin anyways. And Thor was piercing through Iron Man's Thor buster armor with his blows... Not trying to use ABC logic but Thanos>Thor. Oh and simple question....Can the bleeding edge armor survive a blast/explosion like this?http://media.comicvi...nos12___019.jpg 1. Thanos recently fought the Avengers again and he solo'ed(if thats even a word ) and owned them(Iron Man included) . It wasn't until the Elders of the Universe and the In-Betweener came in to help stop Thanos.​2. Okay...My bad if I misunderstood you. But Surfer has tried to blast Thanos with a full blast but it didn't even do anything to him.3. It happened recently in Thanos Imperative. Mar-Vell was the main antagonist and he was at skyfather level. Thanos was going one on one with him. Until Death came in and killed him by just one shotting him and collapsing the cancerverse. One question Force_Echo and not to be a jerk. Why make a match and than try to argue against the character you put in the match...What I can't get is why you make a match and than try to decide the winner. Iron Man having prep doesn't me anything. Like Sirmethos pointed out, he;s going to need a lot more prep time. And I keep telling you what resources does Tony have(besides the reality gem) that would put Thanos down? Thanos resources and the resources that he's fought against outclass the resources that Tony has. Tony resources is mostly Earth based, while the people Thanos went up against are universal... 1,I doubt Tony fought classic Drax at full power like Thanos did.2. Thanos doesn't prefer fighting h2h. He'll probably one shot Tony by one of his energy blast.3. Yes a mental one where Tony would lose. Thanos intelligence>>>Tony's by a long shot.4. Not to sound like a dick...But Thanos has fought people with way faster reflexes than any armor Tony has. Take his fight with Fallen one for example.5. I hope so he is completely immune, because Thanos was able to get into the mind of Galactus. Also Incorrect about Thanos not being immortal. Where have you read that? He is still rejected by Death so he is still immortal.I don't know. It certainly wasn't a full power Galactus, but then again, the Galactus that Thanos "knocked down" was starving. My point is, that feat of taking one blast from Odin doesn't mean anything. Odin wasn't even trying to kill Thanos, and Thanos was still severely injured from the blast. It's not an impressive feat at all. how about you actually read the comics you reference Rune King Thor with the Odinforce (the one that the Thorbuster fought) IS > Thanos. I would also like to point out that the Thorbuster was built with less than a month's prep. I have no idea, because I didn't see that explosion do a damn thing. 1. Where? When? Scan? Which armor was Iron Man in? The only references (two of them) I can find of Thanos beating the Avengers is not recent at all, it takes place with Tony in his Classic armor. 2. Do you know how to read? For the third freaking time, that was Thanos empowered by Death, not his own power. 3. One on one with him? He was willingly being prepared to be sacrificed by Mar Vell, he immediately surrenders, and then dies. Thanos didn't beat Mar Vell at all. He called Death to do it for him, by dying. Again, do you even read the comics you reference? It's called being a Devil's Advocate. You should look it up sometime. I have a slight inclination towards Tony, but it's going to be extremely hard either way. I don't think you understand. Thanos doesn't have prep time. It doesn't matter what resources he has, he can't use any of them. Tony is the one with prep time. This is the second time I'm explaining this, try and keep up. Like I said, he has teleporters, time machines, portals, resources to make a new, even more powerful armor specifically catered towards Thanos, etc. Really, there are a sh*tton of possibilities. 1. Why wouldn't he? I'm inclined to believe he fought him just like he fought Thanos and everyone else, until there's a reason for me to think differently. 2. An energy blast that Iron Man can absorb, or dodge (considering he's a lot faster than Thanos). 3. This is the interesting question. Thanos has shown more impressive long range "strategy" feats, but Stark's shown more impressive on the fly tactical thinking. 4. The Fallen One has never shown any real reflex speed feats. 5. Yeah, he is. He is not immortal anymore, it says int he marvel wiki that he was formerly banned by Death, but the ban has since been lifted. @Sirmethos' spiel (which I didn't see until now): Actually there is a pretty damn noticeable difference between Thanos' own augments and the power boost he received from Death. Mainly that he augmenting himself is a result of his own power intelligence, like Tony's increased intelligence via the arc reactor that he himself built. Death augmenting him is more like Odin giving Thor the capabilities of the Odinforce, it's a completely outside, invalid increase in power. Iron Man might not be able to take the full brunt of a full power blast from Thanos, but he can take some, and absorb some, making himself stronger, like a version of Thorbuster. He's gone up against Thanos w/ The Infinity Gauntlet before with a lot less than a month of prep. Granted, he had a Celestial carcass to work with, but the fact that a man could reverse engineer and utilize something that powerful is a feat in itself, plus, it was Thanos with the freaking IG. Honestly, nearly all of his prep feats are less than a month's worth of planning, who knows what possibilities would result if Tony actually applied himself to a singular goal for an entire month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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