xLEGACYx Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Darth Vader and the 501st Squad VS Master Chief and the ODST The battle takes place on the forest of Endor. There are no vehicles and the characters can use any hand held weapon from there universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callisto Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Learn More AboutMaster ChiefRead more about Master Chief at WikipediaOfficial Site: Bungie Links: Wikipedia Entry Halo Story Page Halo Library The Rookie (Halo)Read more about The Rookie (Halo) at WikipediaOfficial Site: Bungie Links: Wikipedia Halopedia Halo Official website Darth VaderRead more about Darth Vader at WikipediaOfficial Site: Lucasfilm, LTD Links: Wikipedia: Darth Vader The Star Wars Wiki: Darth Vader Starwars.com: Darth Vader The 501'stRead more about The 501'st at WikipediaOfficial Site: LucasFilm Links: Wikipedia StarWars.com Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Yeah...the Didact owned Chief with his telekinesis, it'll be the same way when he tries to fight Vader. Chief's best bet is to stay back, and Spartan Laser Vader's head off. Good luck hitting Vader though. People don't seem to know Chief's power level. In Marvel or DC he is a Batman/Spider-Man level character, and should take foes accordingly. Anyone with telepathy or telekinesis would flat out make Chief their bitch. He has no defense against it. Chief vs The Lizard would be interesting. Lizard is faster and stronger, but Chief's armor would allow him to take blows from the Lizard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 501st vs. ODSTs is a fairly interesting match though. How many of each, aka, how big is the scale of this battle? Also, this is a full on battle, Chief isn't stupid. He's going to see Vader TKing people, or get reports from ODSTs. He's not going to go up to Vader with his crappy Assault Rifle, he's probably going to use the forest to trap or snipe him from like a mile away. Of course, Vader's precog makes sniping from that far away kind of a problem... But the point is that Chief is going to find some way to beat Vader tactically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 The fight is 20 ODST and 20 Troopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hmm. I'm going with the ODSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm going with Vader and the 501st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Lord Dragon Reborn Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 501 runs over ODST and even if Master Chief studied Vader for half his life I don't think that he would be able to get a good enough tactical advantage over the Dark Lord. Darth Vader is going to see it coming from a mile away. Master Chief gets the life force choked out of him and Vader leaves the 501 to finsh off the Halo guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 ODSTs kill the 501st simply because they're far more elite, with more experience. And while the ODSTs have good experience with plasma based weaponry, the 501st isn't going to be prepared for anything about the ODSTs. The 501st, despite being a prestigous legion, are still normal troops, i.e, essentially cannon fodder, albeit a little more experienced. It's not like ARC troopers or Republic Commandos are fighting. Also, Vader gets sprayed from 30 yards away. MC and a squad of troopers will take him out relatively easily as a matter of fact, provided they play it smart. Which they will, considering that MC is far smarter than Vader when it comes to battlefield tactics and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Spider-man Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Vader has knowledge of battlefield experience that I think can come in handy. I mean, he was a Jedi leading troops allover the place before he became Vader. Master Chief and the ODST's can blast Vader from yards away the 501st can do the same to them. I am leaning toward Vader and the 501st because Chief and the ODST's don't know about The Force. Vader and the 501st can shield themselves until Chief and his squad get close then Vader from there will just rip them apart. And if Vader and 501st advance to Chief and the ODSTs they can even put their shileds up and shoot Vader and his team down. But, again the Force if Vader gets close enough he can demental Chief and his squad. So I think it's more of whoever advances on to who first looses. But if I had to choose, Vader and 501st. Mind you I'm just wondering about possiblities so don't chew me a** out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 "Leading" as in going in first with a lot of fancy sword play and force powers. I don't think Skywalker has ever shown any real tactical or strategical prowess What he has shows is that he's willing to let overconfidence influence him. Except clone troopers stand in the open and just open fire, as seen in every instance of clone trooper fighting ever. Again, they're not skilled, they're not smart, they lose. Also, the ODSTs and Chief have better armor suited towards plasma fire than the clones have towards projectiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Don't forget vaders experience in the clone wars and the 501st years of combat before episode 4 The clones were literally made to fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 The clones were literally made to fightMore so made to die. They are like ants. They are expected to die, but their numbers overwhelm their foes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 More so made to die. They are like ants. They are expected to die, but their numbers overwhelm their foes.actually in the clone was series it shows they are all forced into elite training before leaving the "academy" they are in. Also the 501st were the best of all troopers besides the mandalorians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm not saying they are untrained, but rather they are bred to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Vader solos. MC and his troops get pwned by Telekinesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 And Vader gets drowned by bullets. In fact, Vader probably couldn't take the output of a single assault rifle. The Chief sees him picking up a couple troopers, uses a snipers positioned 500 yds away to put rounds in Vader as a distraction, and either sets off preset charges or hits Vader with a spew of assault rifle bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I could see that working. Like I said in my initial post, long range is Chief's best bet. Which case, HK would agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 And Vader gets drowned by bullets. In fact, Vader probably couldn't take the output of a single assault rifle. The Chief sees him picking up a couple troopers, uses a snipers positioned 500 yds away to put rounds in Vader as a distraction, and either sets off preset charges or hits Vader with a spew of assault rifle bullets. Yeah, because Vader's precog won't help him. Vader's clone Troopers keep the ODST guys at bay as he focuses on MC.MC tries to shoot, but to his dismay Vader has used his telekinesis to bend all of the barrels of his weapons, rendering them useless. Then crushes his windpipe. The makes quick work out of the ODST dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason Redfield Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Precog isn't an instant "I win" button. Otherwise none of the crap HK-47 mentions would ever work nor would they ever get shot and/or overwhelmed. They do. I'm not convinced MC and the ODST will win, but it's not going to be a complete stomp in either direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Never said Pre-cog was an instant win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jason Redfield Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Never said Pre-cog was an instant win. I know, but it's often treated as such in debates. I was pointing out that Vader's not gonna be able to completely no-sell bullets "because Pre-cog". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darxeth Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I know, but it's often treated as such in debates. I was pointing out that Vader's not gonna be able to completely no-sell bullets "because Pre-cog". Ah, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yeah, because Vader's precog won't help him. Vader's clone Troopers keep the ODST guys at bay as he focuses on MC.MC tries to shoot, but to his dismay Vader has used his telekinesis to bend all of the barrels of his weapons, rendering them useless. Then crushes his windpipe. The makes quick work out of the ODST dudes.Except MC stays hidden or behind cover, not giving Vader an opportunity to Force Choke anything. Seriously, MC is a strategical genius compared to Vader. He set's a charge on a tree, the tree falls on Vader, distracting him along with an ODST assault on the right. Then Vader gets sniped through his helmet from 300 yds away. He can't turn without exposing himself, and even without his precog, I doubt he can dodge. As for your scenario, Vader can't telekinetically bend the barrels of the guns before he gets shot. Telekinetically bending steel takes longer than flinching your finger. Also, that wouldn't work on the snipers. Plus, MC would just switch to a pistol or shotgun or something and kill Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLEGACYx Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Well in the final scenes of episode 3 it says otherwise. He crushes the droids and machines in the room in an instant. Also your scenario seems to be disregarding the troopers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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