Rumble 13378 Namor the submariner vs. Deathstroke

[Guest bigballerju]

Well Deathstroke has the energy lance he could kill Namor with. Problem is if he tries to face Namor in a battle H2H will he survive long enough to deliver a killing blow? Either Slade does that or sets a trap for Namor. Problem is what type of trap do you set for a man who can knock out Hulk?

[Guest Darxeth]

Well Deathstroke has the energy lance he could kill Namor with. Problem is if he tries to face Namor in a battle H2H will he survive long enough to deliver a killing blow? Either Slade does that or sets a trap for Namor. Problem is what type of trap do you set for a man who can knock out Hulk?

 

 

I listed how DS could defeat him in the first page. :]

[The Void]

Those are impressive feats.

And yes, I do agree the Thing putting him in the position I showed earlier is silly, but it also more current than any of the feats you listed, to my knowledge. (correct me if I'm wrong)

Which is closer to the Namor used in this set-up.

 

It doesn't matter anyway because it's doubtable that this fight will take place underwater at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, just no.

 

Slade's sword won't have much of a problem hurting Namor.

 

Oh...So you think Namor is just going just stand there??? Again how is DS going to tag him?

[The Void]

Also Namor can just speed blitz him and one shot him.

[Guest Darxeth]

Smh.

 

DS is more skilled, cunning, and faster (on land) than Namor.

He won't have to try too hard to 'tag' him.

 

Hell, he even tagged the Flash. (Two different ones, actually)

[The Void]

Smh.

 

DS is more skilled, cunning, and faster (on land) than Namor.

He won't have to try too hard to 'tag' him.

 

Hell, he even tagged the Flash. (Two different Flashes, actually)

 

1. Namor as flight

2. DS had prep when he tagged Flash and Flash wasn't even aware of him.

3. Namor has proven to be skilled in h2h and he is also a smart.

4. How will DS react to hos speed blitz?

[Guest bigballerju]

I listed how DS could defeat him in the first page. :]

 

How exactly would Slade lure Namor into a large dehydration machine? Namor isn't a idiot he won't be lured so easily when he knows someone is trying to kill him. Also would a week be enough for Slade to build one? By the way Namor is arrogant but smart enough to not leave the water and let the person who wants to kill him try to do so underwater where he is the most powerful. Namor may see it as well if someone wants to kill me let that fool try to do so underwater.

 

Also Deathstroke new 52 may actually try to kill Namor underwater too. If he tried to fight Lobo in a physical battle (Which he lost) then I can see him trying to take Namor out underwater if Namor doesn't leave the water after a while. Then again Slade could somehow start causing damage to things Namor cares about if he can get information on that to lure Namor out on land.

 

To Deathstroke's credit he showed he is capable of fighting Hawkman, surviving a fight with Lobo, and more. Deathstroke definitely has a high chance of winning. It's just that Namor's is higher.

[comic_book_fan]

deathstroke runs at 30 miles per hour namor moves faster than sound.

deathstroke can lift at most 10 to 20 thousand pounds namor lifts at his weakest 90 tons.

namor wins.

[Guest Darxeth]

1. Namor as flight

2. DS had prep when he tagged Flash and Flash wasn't even aware of him.

3. Namor has proven to be skilled in h2h and he is also a smart.

4. How will DS react to hos speed blitz?

 

1. Alright.

2. DS has prep now and Namor isn't aware that DS is after him, he just knows someone is. So he doesn't know who/what to expect.

3. But he isn't even remotely on Slade's level in either of those cases.

4. He won't get caught in a speed blitz because he isn't stupid enough to take him on directly.

[Guest Darxeth]

How exactly would Slade lure Namor into a large dehydration machine disguised as a warehouse?

 

By holding hostage someone he cares about. :]

 

EDIT: Also, I think he'd be able to trick someone into building it for him in less than a week. Stranger things have happened.

 

But that set-up was a half-hearted way of explaining how DS could win.

 

I'm sure there are other ways DS could win fairly easily.

[xLEGACYx]

I would like to point out that this new deathstroke has fought toe to toe with Lobo. It took everything he had to lead him into a trap but he won. His armor can take punishment by Lobo so that isn't the issue. Slade is also smart enough and skilled enough to have an elaborate trap with the time he has to plan. For current deathstroke this would be a very tough but plausible mission.

[Guest Darxeth]

deathstroke runs at 30 miles per hour namor moves faster than sound.

deathstroke can lift at most 10 to 20 thousand pounds namor lifts at his weakest 90 tons.

namor wins.

 

If DS can tag Flash and Flash, he can tag Namor.

[comic_book_fan]

By holding hostage someone he cares about. :]

who is he going after sue or emma either of those 2 will kill slade just as well.

the thing beating namor don't mean slade can beat him.

hell thing would kill deathstroke as well in a chance encounter the man trades blows with thor and hulk he can lift well over a 100 tons

and is a master of judo wrestling and boxing not to mention his military training.

[The Void]

1. Alright.

2. DS has prep now and Namor isn't aware that DS is after him, he just knows someone is. So he doesn't know who/what to expect.

3. But he isn't even remotely on Slade's level in either of those cases.

4. He won't get caught in a speed blitz because he isn't stupid enough to take him on directly.

 

1. Also meaning that DS defintely won't be able to get him and Namor can throw large objects at him.

2. Namor has already been in positions like these. The only thing DS has for him is that sword really.

3. Namor has to be cunning and wise, he's a king. As for h2h, Namor was going toe to toe with Wolverine, Black Panther and I think Captain America. I think Namor earned his scripts in h2h and I think he can still KO DS.

4. I wasn't really saying that, I was really saying that DS would be to slow to dodge Namor. As Comic Book Fan mentioned Namor is faster than sound.

[comic_book_fan]

If DS can tag Flash and Flash, he can tag Namor.

we can't use that logic it was just to further plot like ff beating galactus.

going by powers and skill slade is far more skilled but is way over matched here.

[The Void]

If DS can tag Flash and Flash, he can tag Namor.

 

Again Flash wasn't aware of him and DS had prep time. And I'm talking about combat speed really.

[Indolent]

Uh.

 

Deathstroke has prep time of a week, and this is 52 Deathstroke - i.e. vastly superior to prior Deathstroke. He has the means of actually injuring Namor a la energy lance and prometheum sword. He has the means of maneuvering Namor into a setting best fit for the assassination. He'll learn Namor's capabilities and easily adjust accordingly.

 

I don't really have to elaborate on Deathstroke's capabilities and feats do I? If anything, Namor is more likely to underestimate Deathstroke and this in conjunction with all that's going for Slade... yeah, it's the latter's victory. The arguments made for Namor are pretty much worthless considering what Deathstroke can do and manipulate.

[Guest Darxeth]

1. Also meaning that DS defintely won't be able to get him and Namor can throw large objects at him.

2. Namor has already been in positions like these. The only thing DS has for him is that sword really.

3. Namor has to be cunning and wise, he's a king. As for h2h, Namor was going toe to toe with Wolverine, Black Panther and I think Captain America. I think Namor earned his scripts in h2h and I think he can still KO DS.

4. I wasn't really saying that, I was really saying that DS would be to slow to dodge Namor. As Comic Book Fan mentioned Namor is faster than sound.

 

 

I think you are under the impression that Slade would fight him directly, which simply isn't the case. At all.

 

Also, a few of you seem to still be thinking of Slade in pre-flashpoint.

As it has been stated several times by several different people, New 52 Slade is far superior than Pre-reboot.

And if you aren't very savvy of New 52 DS, you cannot argue against him, due to not knowing much about him.

 

DS has more than just his sword to hurt Namor.

He went toe to toe with them because of his abilities and not entirely on his h2h.

And so what if he is a king? Slade is far more intelligent, far wiser and far more cunning.

 

Namor isn't aware of what to expect at all and Slade has prep, so really, it'd probably end in Slade's favor.

[The Void]

I think you are under the impression that Slade would fight him directly, which simply isn't the case. At all.

 

Also, a few of you seem to still be thinking of Slade in pre-flashpoint.

As it has been stated several times by several different people, New 52 Slade is far superior than Pre-reboot.

And if you aren't very savvy of New 52 DS, you cannot argue against him, due to not knowing much about him.

 

DS has more than just his sword to hurt Namor.

He went toe to toe with them because of his abilities and not entirely on his h2h.

And so what if he is a king? Slade is far more intelligent, far wiser and far more cunning.

 

Namor isn't aware of what to expect at all and Slade has prep, so really, it'd probably end in Slade's favor.

 

1. I think I am fully aware of that this is 52 DS...

2. Namor fighting skills in the Marvel handbook is a 6! 7 being the highest.

3. Namor's intelligence in the Marvel handbook is a 4, which means he is a around genius/gifted. Because a 2 is average in the handbooks.

4. Nobody as of yet has not explained how DS would react to Namor's speed blitz and one shotting DS.

5. I already told you Namor has beaten people with prep time.

6. I hope you have not forgotten that Namor can sense people, Black Panther tried to sneak up on him and it didn't even work. So if DS tries a sneak attack its out of the question.

 

Show me 52 DS reacting to a speed blitz by someone as fast like Namor.

[C.T.]

Slade can take this but as for the plan to lure Namor into a dehydration warehouse by holding someone he cares about hostage...Namor killed his ex wife to send a message...yeah.

[Guest Darxeth]

Slade can take this but as for the plan to lure Namor into a dehydration warehouse by holding someone he cares about hostage...Namor killed his ex wife to send a message...yeah.

 

I know, I just wanted to think of a silly explanation.

[Guest Darxeth]

1. I think I am fully aware of that this is 52 DS...

2. Namor fighting skills in the Marvel handbook is a 6! 7 being the highest.

3. Namor's intelligence in the Marvel handbook is a 4, which means he is a around genius/gifted. Because a 2 is average in the handbooks.

4. Nobody as of yet has not explained how DS would react to Namor's speed blitz and one shotting DS.

5. I already told you Namor has beaten people with prep time.

6. I hope you have not forgotten that Namor can sense people, Black Panther tried to sneak up on him and it didn't even work. So if DS tries a sneak attack its out of the question.

 

Show me 52 DS reacting to a speed blitz by someone as fast like Namor.

 

1. If you really understood the power of New 52 DS you wouldn't be arguing that he can't beat Namor in this rumble.

2. Marvel's handbook stats aren't good things to go off of.

3. Refer to 2.

4. I did, he wouldn't allow Namor to speed blitz him because Namor doesn't know Slade is the man who's going to kill him 'till it's too late.

5. Namor doesn't have prep time against Slade in this fight. He doesn't even know Slade is the man who is after him. Prep time against an unknown enemy is almost useless.

 

I don't have to, since he won't put himself in that position.

[comic_book_fan]

i give up slade is batman from 10 years ago on these forums.

[The Void]

1. If you really understood the power of New 52 DS you wouldn't be arguing that he can't beat Namor in this rumble.

2. Marvel's handbook stats aren't good things to go off of.

3. Refer to 2.

4. I did, he wouldn't allow Namor to speed blitz him because Namor doesn't know Slade is the man who's going to kill him 'till it's too late.

5. Namor doesn't have prep time against Slade in this fight. He doesn't even know Slade is the man who is after him. Prep time against an unknown enemy is almost useless.

 

I don't have to, since he won't put himself in that position.

 

1. You haven't shown me anything that says he can beat Namor. You still have not shown me 52 DS reacting to a speed blitz from someone as fast as Namor.

2. It's what Marvel puts out for their characters.

3. I already told you it means average Thor is a two, but we know he is not dumb he just isn't super intelligent like someone like Superman. He's just average.

4. Again he has senses.

5. Okay you have a point... But just look at this.

 

Namor wasn't even aware that Black Panther was coming for him yet he sensed Black Panther. What I've been saying is that sneak attacks will not work. DS best chances are traps.

[Guest Darxeth]

1. You haven't shown me anything that says he can beat Namor. You still have not shown me 52 DS reacting to a speed blitz from someone as fast as Namor.

2. It's what Marvel puts out for their characters.

3. I already told you it means average Thor is a two, but we know he is not dumb he just isn't super intelligent like someone like Superman. He's just average.

4. Again he has senses.

5. Okay you have a point... But just look at this.

 

Namor wasn't even aware that Black Panther was coming for him yet he sensed Black Panther. What I've been saying is that sneak attacks will not work. DS best chances are traps.

 

 

 

1.

 

He defeated Starfire while dodging her while she was blitzing and tanked her starbolts and her fists. (Starfire is very strong also, so it's not like DS can't hang with Namor's power)

And that's pre-52 DS. He is wayyyy superior now.

 

2. Marvel has stated that the statistics they show aren't entirely accurate nor up-to-date.

 

3. He can easily be outsmarted by DS.

 

4. He has senses that apply to the Ocean. Slade isn't going to be near the Ocean so.. yeah.

 

5. In that scan he states the limitations of his senses.