Rumble 13378 Namor the submariner vs. Deathstroke

[Indolent]

Hence why the need for the likes.

[C.T.]

Heh.

[Guest sirmethos]

"Slade has encountered Batman in Batman: The Dark Knight vol 2 #4

 

Slade leaped onto the BatPlane, grabbed Batman through the windshield. and threw him towards the ground.

(Note: Slade was doped up on a substance that diminishes a fear of death)

 

I saw in another topic that you preferred if people corrected you on things that you were unsure about, soo yeah, there you have it."

 

Indeed I do. I stand corrected. And thanks @Darxeth

 

"deathstroke runs at 30 miles per hour namor moves faster than sound.

deathstroke can lift at most 10 to 20 thousand pounds namor lifts at his weakest 90 tons.

namor wins."

 

1. You seem to be assuming that this will be a straight up fight. Which it won't be. It doesn't matter how much faster or stronger, etc. that Namor is. because...:

2. Deathstroke has 5 days to prepare for taking Namor down(he doesn't have to fight him, he just has to kill him). And while Namor knows that someone is out to kill him, he doesn't know that it's Deathstroke. (I chose your post, rather than Stranglehold's, which makes the same useless 'point', purely because I saw your post first @comic_book_fan).

 

The rest of the posts I'll be addressing come from Stranglehold:

 

 

"Oh...So you think Namor is just going just stand there??? Again how is DS going to tag him?"

 

"Also Namor can just speed blitz him and one shot him."

 

Again, you are assuming that this is going to be a straight up fight. Have you considered something as exotic as, you know, reading the setup? So you actually know what kind of match you're commenting on? I know it may seem like an odd idea, but you may want to give it a try. You know, to avoid looking like a complete idiot when you post your comments.

 

 

 

"1. Namor as flight

2. DS had prep when he tagged Flash and Flash wasn't even aware of him.

3. Namor has proven to be skilled in h2h and he is also a smart.

4. How will DS react to hos speed blitz?"

 

1. Deathstroke has his energy lance.

2. One of the times he tagged Flash, yes. Another time, he still had prep(which he also does in this match, something you would know if you had read the setup), but Flash was fully aware of Deathstroke's presence, and actually attacked him.

3. What does that have to do with anything? Again, not a straight up fight. Deathstroke could, one way or another, lure Namor above water, and take him out with an Adamantium sniper round, from 2 miles away. And it would still count as a victory for Deathstroke. In that scenario, Namor's strength, speed, skills, intelligence, etc. etc. etc. would be completely irrelevant.

4. Again, not a straight up fight. Read the setup.

 

 

 

"1. Also meaning that DS defintely won't be able to get him and Namor can throw large objects at him.

2. Namor has already been in positions like these. The only thing DS has for him is that sword really.

3. Namor has to be cunning and wise, he's a king. As for h2h, Namor was going toe to toe with Wolverine, Black Panther and I think Captain America. I think Namor earned his scripts in h2h and I think he can still KO DS.

4. I wasn't really saying that, I was really saying that DS would be to slow to dodge Namor. As Comic Book Fan mentioned Namor is faster than sound."

 

1. Not true. Again, energy lance. Sniper rounds without Namor ever knowing what hit him. Etc. etc. etc.

2. Well, his sword, his energy lance, the 5 million dollars that he got paid in advance, and the considerable amount of money he already has, + 5 days to buy whatever equipment he feels is necessary.

3. Completely irrelevant. Again, not a straight up fight.

4. Deathstroke won't have to dodge him, if he doesn't know that Deathstroke is there.

 

 

"Again Flash wasn't aware of him and DS had prep time. And I'm talking about combat speed really."

 

Again, Slade has tagged Flash, while Flash was both aware of his presence, and actively attacking him. He had prep, yes, but he has prep in this match as well(again, you would know this if you read the setup)

 

 

 

"1. I think I am fully aware of that this is 52 DS...

2. Namor fighting skills in the Marvel handbook is a 6! 7 being the highest.

3. Namor's intelligence in the Marvel handbook is a 4, which means he is a around genius/gifted. Because a 2 is average in the handbooks.

4. Nobody as of yet has not explained how DS would react to Namor's speed blitz and one shotting DS.

5. I already told you Namor has beaten people with prep time.

6. I hope you have not forgotten that Namor can sense people, Black Panther tried to sneak up on him and it didn't even work. So if DS tries a sneak attack its out of the question."

 

1. That's nice. Are you also aware of his capabilities then? The differences between the capabilities of the pre-flashpoint and the new 52 DS? Just to mention a few things. You aren't aware of the setup, so these are relevant questions.

2. Irrelevant.

3. Irrelevant

4. Because there is no need to explain it. It is irrelevant for th purpose of this match, at least for those with any kind of knowledge about Deathstroke and his M.O.

5. That's nice. Here's a few quick questions then. A. Where the people with prep, that namor defeated, trying to kill him? B. were any of those people(the ones that tried to kill him) as 'good with prep' as Deathstroke(or even close)? When you have answered "yes" to both questions, and given examples to prove it, at least for the second one, then that might even be impressive.

6. Yea, not so much. "X cannot do A, therefore, Y cannot do A" is just as bad as abc logic.

 

 

"Show me 52 DS reacting to a speed blitz by someone as fast like Namor."

 

Why? It is completely irrelevant for the purpose of this match.

 

 

 

Now, as a final note: If you want to argue that Namor's superior physical capabilities, have any kind of influence on the result of the match. Then you first have to prove, that there is no way for Deathstroke to eliminate Namor, without a direct confrontation.

 

 

Let me give you a quick example: Punisher vs. Blade. Punisher has decided that Blade is a homocidal maniac that needs to be killed. Blade has no idea that Punisher has made that decision. Now, we all know that Blade is faster, stronger, more durable, better reflexes, better stamina, more experience. and is pretty much superior to Punisher in every physical 'stat'. But all of Blade's powers and superior capabilities, are completely useless, when Punisher takes him out with a high-powered Sniper rifle, from 3 blocks away.

 

The same is the case in this match.

[Guest Darxeth]

Indeed I do. I stand corrected. And thanks @Darxeth

 

No problem. I expect you would do the same. :]

[Guest Hayesmeister5651]

Show me people fighting 52 Slade and not holding back. And I mean people like Superman.

Lobo > Namor. And Deathstroke held his own against Lobo. Plus Lobo has a very fast healing factor.

In one panel half his face is gone, and the next he is healed.

[comic_book_fan]

Lobo > Namor. And Deathstroke held his own against Lobo. Plus Lobo has a very fast healing factor.

In one panel half his face is gone, and the next he is healed.

i don't think lobo is more powerful than namor and i heard new 52 lobo was weaker.

[xLEGACYx]

i don't think lobo is more powerful than namor and i heard new 52 lobo was weaker.

Slades Nth metal armor took hits from Lobo, that broke pieces off. Hawkmans Nth metal armor can withstand hits from Black Adam

[C.T.]

Namor has a healing factor too...albeit only in water.

[xLEGACYx]

Namor has a healing factor too...albeit only in water.

Is his as strong as Lobo's? Not sure of its intensity.

[C.T.]

I'm not sure. Wolverine stabs Namor in the chest with all six of his claws, Namor punches Wolverine into a wall, jumps into a pool, Wolverine tries to trap him in a energy shield, Namor escapes and attacks Wolverine again, no sign of the stab wounds.

[xLEGACYx]

I'm not sure. Wolverine stabs Namor in the chest with all six of his claws, Namor punches Wolverine into a wall, jumps into a pool, Wolverine tries to trap him in a energy shield, Namor escapes and attacks Wolverine again, no sign of the stab wounds.

So Im guessing unless its MAJOR trauma, the water makes it an instant heal from the sound of it.

[Callisto]

Match Final Results

Namor the submariner: 5

Deathstroke: 7