Rumble 13692 T-850 (Terminator) vs. T-1000 (Terminator) vs. T-X (The Terminatrix)

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bergy_Berg]

Yeah, that's all very helpful.

[DSkillz]

This is a warning. If posts don't get more civil, this topic gets closed. 

 

Also, we don't really allow images with profanity here. 

[C.T.]

Really? Goddamnit all to hell. I totally had some pics lined up.

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

This is a warning. If posts don't get more civil, this topic gets closed. 

 

Also, we don't really allow images with profanity here. 

 

Ok, images with profanity aren't allowed here. I respect that, but he was also wrong for posting a scan saying " Not sure if trolling or stupid " because I consider that flaming and name calling. I just thought if he wants to name call, I can be a lot worse at it.

[Bergy_Berg]

Ok, images with profanity aren't allowed here. I respect that, but he was also wrong for posting a scan saying " Not sure if trolling or stupid " because I consider that flaming and name calling. I just thought if he wants to name call, I can be a lot worse at it.

Yeah, that'll show him. Wish I was as quick on my feet as you are.

Next time, try not to keep elevating the name calling.

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

Yeah, that'll show him. Wish I was as quick on my feet as you are.

Next time, try not to keep elevating the name calling.

Well 9/10 when you name call someone they're gonna do it back in a more offensive manner.

[DSkillz]

Ok, images with profanity aren't allowed here. I respect that, but he was also wrong for posting a scan saying " Not sure if trolling or stupid " because I consider that flaming and name calling. I just thought if he wants to name call, I can be a lot worse at it.

 

Yeah, I called both sides on the potential flame war, but escalating things is a sure-fire way to keep the flame war going. 

 

Also, I've seen you state a number of times in this topic that you're "not going to read through all that". If you're really trying to get your point across in a debate, the other side is quickly going to lose respect for you is you're not fully hearing their side. 

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

Yeah, I called both sides on the potential flame war, but escalating things is a sure-fire way to keep the flame war going. 

 

Also, I've seen you state a number of times in this topic that you're "not going to read through all that". If you're really trying to get your point across in a debate, the other side is quickly going to lose respect for you is you're not fully hearing their side. 

Ok, I will refrain from posting scans of profanity in the future.

 

Anyways, the reason I didn't wanna read through that wall full of post is because it's nothing, but a God given headache and if he's still going on about the same crap over and over again, then spending 10 or so minutes reading and responding to it is more than likely a waste of time. If I haven't been able to convince some of these people that they're wrong about the T-X beat the T-1000, Chances are, it will never click into their heads However, we're all allowed to have different opinions. I have only went with the 1000 based on his better durability and speed he has over the T-X, Sure the T-X has better weaponary, but I do believe the T-1000 will recover from any of it within time.

[Skirmisher]

You do realize that the T-X has a Plasma Cannon

 

A Plasma Cannon that fires Super Heated Plasma at temperatures higher then required to smelt Steel

 

IIRC, the temperature required to melt steel, is the same temperature needed to destroy (and I mean No coming back from) a T-1000.

 

Now, I understand that a single shot from this Plasma Cannon wouldn't nessisarily destroy a T-1000... but that's why she can shoot it Multiple times.

 

Tell me this, How would a T-1000 survive that?

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

You do realize that the T-X has a Plasma Cannon

 

A Plasma Cannon that fires Super Heated Plasma at temperatures higher then required to smelt Steel

 

IIRC, the temperature required to melt steel, is the same temperature needed to destroy (and I mean No coming back from) a T-1000.

 

Now, I understand that a single shot from this Plasma Cannon wouldn't nessisarily destroy a T-1000... but that's why she can shoot it Multiple times.

 

Tell me this, How would a T-1000 survive that?

Yes, I know the T-X has a Plasma Canon, but their was never anything impressive about it other than the fact she blew up a fire truck with it, but couldn't burn the T-800's flesh and his shirt when she hit him with it which proves the force of the blast is powerful, but not the heat.... So the Plasma Canon being as hot as you're making it out to be, is very hard to believe, otherwise, Arnold would of vaped like he did in T2 in the lake of hot steel....

 

Now you're saying shoot multiple times? NO.... Sorry, but that is false. Once you make a shot with a Plasma Canon, it has to recharge within an amount of time before it can be used again. The scene where Arnold gets into the fire truck Is proof as well the plasma canon had to recharge. Why didn't she hit him with it the whole time he was on his motorcycle and have to use a crain instead.

 

When the T-X doesn't lose her legs from being run over by a helicopter, please let me know because Yes the T-1000 would of leaked out and put himself back together like nothing ever happened. The T-X was nothing more than a rip off of the T-1000. I am going with the T-1000 9/10

[Skirmisher]

Yes, I know the T-X has a Plasma Canon, but their was never anything impressive about it other than the fact she blew up a fire truck with it, but couldn't burn the T-800's flesh and his shirt when she hit him with it which proves the force of the blast is powerful, but not the heat.... So the Plasma Canon being as hot as you're making it out to be, is very hard to believe, otherwise, Arnold would of vaped like he did in T2 in the lake of hot steel....

The Scene in question

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu1ke8bHclA#t=3m25s

 

1) She utterly Demolished the trucks cab. With a Massive explosion. Plasma doesn't tend to detonate in a burst like that unless it's Extremly EXTREMLY hot. Not to mention, that a truck can't Explode like that on it's own, not even with pure Kinetic energy input.

 

2) And the T-850 series was hardened against Plasma Weaponry as a direct counter to the fact that the resistance was aquiring more and more plasma weapons from captured Skynet assets.

 

3) A T-1000 would still go Splat from the Kenetic energy of the attack. Loosing mass from the Heat of the Plasma (which by it's very nature is Super Heated), where she could just do it again and again and again...

 

 

Now you're saying shoot multiple times? NO.... Sorry, but that is false. Once you make a shot with a Plasma Canon, it has to recharge within an amount of time before it can be used again. The scene where Arnold gets into the fire truck Is proof as well the plasma canon had to recharge. Why didn't she hit him with it the whole time he was on his motorcycle and have to use a crain instead.

Incorrect

 

Yes there is a charge time, however you forget the fact that she has to aim and line up a shot from a moving vehicle being attacked, against a moving vehicle that is activly dodging incoming fire, with Other vehicles buffeting said vehicle.

 

not only that, but one shot would scatter a T-1000 apart like a firecracker in a jello cake... The time it would take him to reform, she would have easily been able to charge up another shot.

 

 

When the T-X doesn't lose her legs from being run over by a helicopter, please let me know because Yes the T-1000 would of leaked out and put himself back together like nothing ever happened. The T-X was nothing more than a rip off of the T-1000. I am going with the T-1000 9/10

 

Except that a T-1000 has no onboard weaponry, aside from Melee weapons like the Spike. It has to rely mostly on Current Era weaponry, which as was stated in the First terminator, just not up to the task of taking out a Terminator, no matter the Number.

 

Terminator 1: Death by Factory Hydrolic Mold closing on it...

Terminator 2: Death by Molten Steel Bath

Terminator 3: Death by Nuclear Weapon

 

You can see why you need Plasma Weaponry to take out Terminators. Which is why the Resistance in the Future swaps out to them whenever they're avaliable. Plasma Weapons like the one the T-X has.

 

 

 

 

Oh, don't forget the OTHER Onboard Weapon Systems

 

• IAD ChemTech Flamethrower
• .223 Automatic Stopper
• .45 Cascader
• M41 pulse rifle
• 783 CHAIN Repeater
• ADMOR BioBlaster
• BioRail 32SR-9
• CG45 Needler
• CONSIGLIO EBlaster
• Crescent Corridor Blaster
• EMP Generator
• Finite Rapid Cluster Gun
• HDE Predator (333b)
• HK-54334 (modified)
• KLD-Magnum Repeater
• Laser X-ray Burst Gun
• Rumsfeld P31 Caustic
• Subauro Neutralizer (.444)
• Tracking EBlaster
• TWIN Barrier Gun
• XFLRG 44mm
• M41A pulse rifle
• Nano-Disrupter (.222)
• P31 Caustic Shells x231

 

Not to mention her Nanobots which would easily infect and corrupt a T-1000's systems like it did to the T-850. It took a full reboot to clear it's systems, which is something that a T-1000 wouldn't be able to do without a bucket.

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

Yes, I know the T-X has a Plasma Canon, but their was never anything impressive about it other than the fact she blew up a fire truck with it, but couldn't burn the T-800's flesh and his shirt when she hit him with it which proves the force of the blast is powerful, but not the heat.... So the Plasma Canon being as hot as you're making it out to be, is very hard to believe, otherwise, Arnold would of vaped like he did in T2 in the lake of hot steel....

1. Wrong. Reese threw a Pipe Bomb in the tail pipe of a tanker truck in T1 and it exploded worse than the Fire truck did in T3, So you saying it has to be extremely hot is irrelevant, but it's because of the fire inside the explosion that causes the entire truck to blow up. It's not the heat by itself, but the fire. Just like that gas truck explosion the T-1000 went through in T2, It looked just as bad as the T-X's plasma hit to the fire truck which is also proof the T-1000 would come out fine. Now of course that is different than getting hit from the plasma weapon itself directly.

 

2.  If Arnold was more advanced in the 3rd film as he was in 1 and 2, he wasn't that much durable, in fact, I do not think he was any stronger or weaker as he was in the first 2. He showed more strength feats yes such as lifting blast doors and kicking an ambulance over, but because he never got in any situations like that in 1 and 2, it's an irrelevant comment.

 

3. Would the Plasma Blast splatter the T-1000 and affect it? Sure. I am not saying it won't, but what I am saying is the T-1000 would reform in time. The scene where he got his entire body blown to pieces proves it. The scene too where The T-800 blasted him with the Grenade Blast did badley deform him, but he reformed perfectly fine once he hit that hot pool of steel. As far as the T-X  Doing it again and again goes, you have to remember, she has to waite until her Plasma Canon is charged within time to do so and theirs a possibility that the T-1000 would recover before it does get fully recharged. And since the T-800 broke her arm by just squeezing it, I am sure the T-1000 could do the same. Now of course the T-1000 would have to get into a situation to get to her arm like Arnold did. Would it be easy to get to her arm? No, but could it happen? Yes, if the T-1000 was in the right situation to do so.

 

 

Incorrect

 

Yes there is a charge time, however you forget the fact that she has to aim and line up a shot from a moving vehicle being attacked, against a moving vehicle that is activly dodging incoming fire, with Other vehicles buffeting said vehicle.

 

not only that, but one shot would scatter a T-1000 apart like a firecracker in a jello cake... The time it would take him to reform, she would have easily been able to charge up another shot.

Once again, you saying by the time the T-1000 reforms her plasma canon would already be recharged is also irrelevant because you have no proof it will. Now I did just say above I believe the T-1000 would reform before her plasma canon recharges, but I myself know this for a fact because the T-1000's regenerating abilities is very fast, he heals almost instantly unless frozen... The T-X Obviously doesn't have any Subzero freeze abilities either in her weaponary to keep the T-1000 down for that long. Also her flame thrower is chargeable too.

 

 

Except that a T-1000 has no onboard weaponry, aside from Melee weapons like the Spike. It has to rely mostly on Current Era weaponry, which as was stated in the First terminator, just not up to the task of taking out a Terminator, no matter the Number.

 

Terminator 1: Death by Factory Hydrolic Mold closing on it...

Terminator 2: Death by Molten Steel Bath

Terminator 3: Death by Nuclear Weapon

 

You can see why you need Plasma Weaponry to take out Terminators. Which is why the Resistance in the Future swaps out to them whenever they're avaliable. Plasma Weapons like the one the T-X has.

The T-1000 has no onboard weaponary? I am sure the T-X has a powersource like the T-800 does that he could shapeshift into one of his knives and stab it. Or as I said, he could make a metal weapon and break her arm probably.

 

1. Death by a hydrolic press is irrelevant because the T-1000 would also leak out of that and come back.

 

2. Bath of Moltein Steel is what showed to kill it.

 

3. Death by a nuclear weapon is all it took to destroy the T-X, In my opinion it would KO the T-1000, but the T-1000 did show to recover from explosions twice in T2, So chances are, he would probably recover from the explosion that killed the T-X. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

 

Plasma Canon took out TERMINATOR's of like what Models? It never showed any future wars in the films of Plasma Weapons taking out Any TERMINATOR.... A T-800 got KO'd by it, but that was it.

 

 

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Oh, don't forget the OTHER Onboard Weapon Systems

 

• IAD ChemTech Flamethrower
• .223 Automatic Stopper
• .45 Cascader
• M41 pulse rifle
• 783 CHAIN Repeater
• ADMOR BioBlaster
• BioRail 32SR-9
• CG45 Needler
• CONSIGLIO EBlaster
• Crescent Corridor Blaster
• EMP Generator
• Finite Rapid Cluster Gun
• HDE Predator (333b)
• HK-54334 (modified)
• KLD-Magnum Repeater
• Laser X-ray Burst Gun
• Rumsfeld P31 Caustic
• Subauro Neutralizer (.444)
• Tracking EBlaster
• TWIN Barrier Gun
• XFLRG 44mm
• M41A pulse rifle
• Nano-Disrupter (.222)
• P31 Caustic Shells x231

 

Not to mention her Nanobots which would easily infect and corrupt a T-1000's systems like it did to the T-850. It took a full reboot to clear it's systems, which is something that a T-1000 wouldn't be able to do without a bucket.

 

Nothing at all suggest that she had half of that weaponary that you listed. I mean yeah she could of had God only knows how much more weaponary that we didn't get to see her use in the movie, but unless she used it, theirs nothing either that suggest she would use it on the T-1000 since she didn't use most of it on Arnold.

 

Are you talking about her nanobots affecting the T-1000? Well that makes no sense cause I could say the T-1000's nanotech could affect her. Now as far as her reprogramming the T-800 goes, that was because they fell off of a balcony, the T-800 nailed her with  a wire which electrocuted them both and the T-800 KO'd himself which is why she was able to stomp his head half way off and reprogram him. If Arnold didn't grab those wire, he wouldn't of KO'd himself for her to reprogram him. Also reprogramming all the nano tech in the T-1000 would be pretty hard. I am not saying she can't do it, but it wouldn't be easy.

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

1. Wrong. Reese threw a Pipe Bomb in the tail pipe of a tanker truck in T1 and it exploded worse than the Fire truck did in T3, So you saying it has to be extremely hot is irrelevant, but it's because of the fire inside the explosion that causes the entire truck to blow up. It's not the heat by itself, but the fire. Just like that gas truck explosion the T-1000 went through in T2, It looked just as bad as the T-X's plasma hit to the fire truck which is also proof the T-1000 would come out fine. Now of course that is different than getting hit from the plasma weapon itself directly.

 

2.  If Arnold was more advanced in the 3rd film as he was in 1 and 2, he wasn't that much durable, in fact, I do not think he was any stronger or weaker as he was in the first 2. He showed more strength feats yes such as lifting blast doors and kicking an ambulance over, but because he never got in any situations like that in 1 and 2, it's an irrelevant comment.

 

3. Would the Plasma Blast splatter the T-1000 and affect it? Sure. I am not saying it won't, but what I am saying is the T-1000 would reform in time. The scene where he got his entire body blown to pieces proves it. The scene too where The T-800 blasted him with the Grenade Blast did badley deform him, but he reformed perfectly fine once he hit that hot pool of steel. As far as the T-X  Doing it again and again goes, you have to remember, she has to waite until her Plasma Canon is charged within time to do so and theirs a possibility that the T-1000 would recover before it does get fully recharged. And since the T-800 broke her arm by just squeezing it, I am sure the T-1000 could do the same. Now of course the T-1000 would have to get into a situation to get to her arm like Arnold did. Would it be easy to get to her arm? No, but could it happen? Yes, if the T-1000 was in the right situation to do so.

 

 

Once again, you saying by the time the T-1000 reforms her plasma canon would already be recharged is also irrelevant because you have no proof it will. Now I did just say above I believe the T-1000 would reform before her plasma canon recharges, but I myself know this for a fact because the T-1000's regenerating abilities is very fast, he heals almost instantly unless frozen... The T-X Obviously doesn't have any Subzero freeze abilities either in her weaponary to keep the T-1000 down for that long. Also her flame thrower is chargeable too.

 

 

The T-1000 has no onboard weaponary? I am sure the T-X has a powersource like the T-800 does that he could shapeshift into one of his knives and stab it. Or as I said, he could make a metal weapon and break her arm probably.

 

1. Death by a hydrolic press is irrelevant because the T-1000 would also leak out of that and come back.

 

2. Bath of Moltein Steel is what showed to kill it.

 

3. Death by a nuclear weapon is all it took to destroy the T-X, In my opinion it would KO the T-1000, but the T-1000 did show to recover from explosions twice in T2, So chances are, he would probably recover from the explosion that killed the T-X. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

 

Plasma Canon took out TERMINATOR's of like what Models? It never showed any future wars in the films of Plasma Weapons taking out Any TERMINATOR.... A T-800 got KO'd by it, but that was it.

 

 

 

Nothing at all suggest that she had half of that weaponary that you listed. I mean yeah she could of had God only knows how much more weaponary that we didn't get to see her use in the movie, but unless she used it, theirs nothing either that suggest she would use it on the T-1000 since she didn't use most of it on Arnold.

 

Are you talking about her nanobots affecting the T-1000? Well that makes no sense cause I could say the T-1000's nanotech could affect her. Now as far as her reprogramming the T-800 goes, that was because they fell off of a balcony, the T-800 nailed her with  a wire which electrocuted them both and the T-800 KO'd himself which is why she was able to stomp his head half way off and reprogram him. If Arnold didn't grab those wire, he wouldn't of KO'd himself for her to reprogram him. Also reprogramming all the nano tech in the T-1000 would be pretty hard. I am not saying she can't do it, but it wouldn't be easy.

[C.T.]

I refuse to read that gigantic wall of BS courtesy of TERMINATOR-FAN, because it's nothing but a goddamn headache and if he's still going on about the same bullshit over and over again, then spending any damn time reading and responding to it is a complete waste of time.

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

I refuse to read that gigantic wall of BS courtesy of TERMINATOR-FAN, because it's nothing but a goddamn headache and if he's still going on about the same bullshit over and over again, then spending any damn time reading and responding to it is a complete waste of time.

 

Good way to get comebacks from a good debater.

 

[Indolent]

Good way to get comebacks from a good debater.

 

Fail link image.

 

Besides you keep making the assumption that I don't know what I'm talking about without actually reading most my posts that refutes your points... that's not how you debate. I.e. what DSKILLZ said.

[Skirmisher]

1. Wrong. Reese threw a Pipe Bomb in the tail pipe of a tanker truck in T1 and it exploded worse than the Fire truck did in T3, So you saying it has to be extremely hot is irrelevant, but it's because of the fire inside the explosion that causes the entire truck to blow up. It's not the heat by itself, but the fire. Just like that gas truck explosion the T-1000 went through in T2, It looked just as bad as the T-X's plasma hit to the fire truck which is also proof the T-1000 would come out fine. Now of course that is different than getting hit from the plasma weapon itself directly.

Quite wrong, fire is one thing, and usually reaches temperatures of 1000 give or take several hundred degrees.

 

Plasma Weaponry usually opperates in the Several Thousand if not into the Tens of Thousands of degrees.

 

The melting point of iron and steel is 1538 degrees.

 

A direct shot would instantly vaporize large chunks of metal, as seen in the Firetruck Explosion, as the suddenly Superheated metal of the cab Explosivly Vaporized.

 

 

2.  If Arnold was more advanced in the 3rd film as he was in 1 and 2, he wasn't that much durable, in fact, I do not think he was any stronger or weaker as he was in the first 2. He showed more strength feats yes such as lifting blast doors and kicking an ambulance over, but because he never got in any situations like that in 1 and 2, it's an irrelevant comment.

Actually, you could tell he was more advanced in the later film due to the fact that he Could get into situations that the earlier models couldn't.

 

You could also tell there was a substantial weight increase between models to account for the additional armour and differing alloys used in their construction.

 

Recall during the chase, while the T-850 was hanging from the crain. He was knocked into a vehicle and instead of being knocked off or being knocked about, he litterally knocked the Vehicle over with his sheer mass and force of impact.

 

IIRC there were feats from the T-800 where he was hit by vehicles and did not show the Same weight or ability to not be knocked down, over or away.

 

 

3. Would the Plasma Blast splatter the T-1000 and affect it? Sure. I am not saying it won't, but what I am saying is the T-1000 would reform in time. The scene where he got his entire body blown to pieces proves it. The scene too where The T-800 blasted him with the Grenade Blast did badley deform him, but he reformed perfectly fine once he hit that hot pool of steel. As far as the T-X  Doing it again and again goes, you have to remember, she has to waite until her Plasma Canon is charged within time to do so and theirs a possibility that the T-1000 would recover before it does get fully recharged. And since the T-800 broke her arm by just squeezing it, I am sure the T-1000 could do the same. Now of course the T-1000 would have to get into a situation to get to her arm like Arnold did. Would it be easy to get to her arm? No, but could it happen? Yes, if the T-1000 was in the right situation to do so.

You are saying that the 40mm grenades were somehow as powerful or More powerful then a Plasma Cannon.

 

This is false, as clearly seen from the chase sceen in T3, where the T-X was litterally blowing vehicles apart with it. A 40mm Grenade would only be able to Wreck or Disable the same vehicles.

 

Thus, the Plasma Cannon would probably have a Much Greater effect of scattering the T-1000 then a 40mm Grenade. Not to mention the Superheating effect from the previous points.

 

 

 

Once again, you saying by the time the T-1000 reforms her plasma canon would already be recharged is also irrelevant because you have no proof it will. Now I did just say above I believe the T-1000 would reform before her plasma canon recharges, but I myself know this for a fact because the T-1000's regenerating abilities is very fast, he heals almost instantly unless frozen... The T-X Obviously doesn't have any Subzero freeze abilities either in her weaponary to keep the T-1000 down for that long. Also her flame thrower is chargeable too.

Actually, the Charge time between shots looks to be only a few seconds, maybe several (3-5 seconds)... The reformation time from a 40mm grenade, was somewhat similar, perhaps slightly faster... However that was against an inferior weapon. The Splater effect of the Plasma Cannon would be substantially greater.

 

 

 

 

The T-1000 has no onboard weaponary? I am sure the T-X has a powersource like the T-800 does that he could shapeshift into one of his knives and stab it. Or as I said, he could make a metal weapon and break her arm probably.

You're forgetting her Armour and Durability

 

 

 

 

 

 

Death by a nuclear weapon is all it took to destroy the T-X, In my opinion it would KO the T-1000, but the T-1000 did show to recover from explosions twice in T2, So chances are, he would probably recover from the explosion that killed the T-X. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

Except that a Nuclear explosion reaches temperatures of Millions of Degrees, as well as having an Ionizing effect, as well as having an Electro Magnetic effect...

 

If it didn't vaporize a T-1000, then it would render it into Metalic Soup as it wipes it's OS.

 

 

 

 

 

Plasma Canon took out TERMINATOR's of like what Models? It never showed any future wars in the films of Plasma Weapons taking out Any TERMINATOR.... A T-800 got KO'd by it, but that was it.

 

All the Future War scenes, iirc the one from T1, the resistance and Skynet were shown with guns that shot bolts of energy or light, like blasters in Star Wars. Those were Plasma Weapons. And they wouldn't be using them Over conventional weaponry if they weren't Better.

 

 

 

 

Nothing at all suggest that she had half of that weaponary that you listed. I mean yeah she could of had God only knows how much more weaponary that we didn't get to see her use in the movie, but unless she used it, theirs nothing either that suggest she would use it on the T-1000 since she didn't use most of it on Arnold.

 

Actually all of those were gathered from an in movie Screen Shot of her selecting weaponry from her internal HUD. As well, presumably a fair number of those weapons were also housed in her modular arm, which was damaged, not by being crushed, but by being hit with an RPG While Charging a Plasma Blast...

[Guest TERMINATOR-FAN]

Quite wrong, fire is one thing, and usually reaches temperatures of 1000 give or take several hundred degrees.

 

Plasma Weaponry usually opperates in the Several Thousand if not into the Tens of Thousands of degrees.

 

The melting point of iron and steel is 1538 degrees.

 

A direct shot would instantly vaporize large chunks of metal, as seen in the Firetruck Explosion, as the suddenly Superheated metal of the cab Explosivly Vaporized.

Keep bringing up heat temperatures when no heat temperature was given. shhhhhhhhhhh heat wouldn't do a thing, but make him laugh more than anything.

 

When the Plasma weaponary can burn the T-800's shirt, please let me know and stop sparing these lies.

 

Again wrong. If it was 1,538 degrees than the T-800 would of been vaped, but instead it barely burns his shirt.

 

A Direct shot only has powerful force, but that's it, it never proved to be hot enough to melt anything, only blow it apart with force and when the T-1000 gets blown apart, he just regenerates.

 

 

Actually, you could tell he was more advanced in the later film due to the fact that he Could get into situations that the earlier models couldn't.

 

You could also tell there was a substantial weight increase between models to account for the additional armour and differing alloys used in their construction.

 

Recall during the chase, while the T-850 was hanging from the crain. He was knocked into a vehicle and instead of being knocked off or being knocked about, he litterally knocked the Vehicle over with his sheer mass and force of impact.

 

IIRC there were feats from the T-800 where he was hit by vehicles and did not show the Same weight or ability to not be knocked down, over or away.

 

 

He could get into situations that's the earlier Models couldn't like what?

 

 

 

Nope that is very wrong. I have looked at both endoskeletons and I posted a pic of it a page or so and their endoskeletons look exactly the same.

 

No, the T-800 Knocked a vehicle over with a soft kick, all it took was his legs that give you far less muscle power than your arms do.

 

The T-800 in Salvation punched an elevator door off like it was a pillow and ate up grenade blast like candy.... something that is also far more powerful than the T-X's piece of junk weaponary..

 

 

You are saying that the 40mm grenades were somehow as powerful or More powerful then a Plasma Cannon.

 

This is false, as clearly seen from the chase sceen in T3, where the T-X was litterally blowing vehicles apart with it. A 40mm Grenade would only be able to Wreck or Disable the same vehicles.

 

Thus, the Plasma Cannon would probably have a Much Greater effect of scattering the T-1000 then a 40mm Grenade. Not to mention the Superheating effect from the previous points.

 

Yes, because the Grenade Launcher Blast in TERMINATOR SALVATION for example that hit the T-800 burned off all of CGI Arnold's flesh, but the Plasma Canon could barely burn his shirt, so you arguing that the Plasma Canons hotter than this and that is only making me laugh and shake my head.

 

The T-X blew vehicles apart, but that was all, its nothing that we haven't seen in another TERMINATOR film before. we saw trucks blow up just as badley in 1 and 2.

 

Even if the Plasma Canon scattered the T-1000, He will just reform. Grenade Launchers have taken off the T-800's flesh, but the Plasma Canon could not, therefore the M203 is far hotter and far more explosive than the Plasma Canons ever gonna be...

 

 

Actually, the Charge time between shots looks to be only a few seconds, maybe several (3-5 seconds)... The reformation time from a 40mm grenade, was somewhat similar, perhaps slightly faster... However that was against an inferior weapon. The Splater effect of the Plasma Cannon would be substantially greater.

A Few seconds? I think you need to rewatch T3 because it looked to be a few minutes rather than seconds. Either way, theirs nothing impressive about a Plasma Canon that can't even burn flesh and the shirt off a T-800. We've seen the T-1000 get splattered and he just regenerates...... The T-X lost her legs and didn't regenerate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except that a Nuclear explosion reaches temperatures of Millions of Degrees, as well as having an Ionizing effect, as well as having an Electro Magnetic effect...

 

If it didn't vaporize a T-1000, then it would render it into Metalic Soup as it wipes it's OS.

 

 

 

All the Future War scenes, iirc the one from T1, the resistance and Skynet were shown with guns that shot bolts of energy or light, like blasters in Star Wars. Those were Plasma Weapons. And they wouldn't be using them Over conventional weaponry if they weren't Better.

Actually all of those were gathered from an in movie Screen Shot of her selecting weaponry from her internal HUD. As well, presumably a fair number of those weapons were also housed in her modular arm, which was damaged, not by being crushed, but by being hit with an RPG While Charging a Plasma Blast...

Do you not realize that Nuclear Explosions have the same affect as what we've been talking about? If Nuclear explosions ranged from millions of degrees, than the Earth would melt and Nuclear Explosions only occur with wind and fire. Fire cannot kill the T-1000 as seen in the movie.

 

Because wind and fire can't kill the T-1000, Not even the end of the world would destroy him, the force of the end of the world would just blow him apart and as usual he just renegerates. You keep arguing for the T-X's durability when it's not that impressive because she lost her legs from being run over by a helicopter and she got her right arm damaged from a T-800 crushing it and a RPG Blast. I have fired off RPG's before, I could break her arm.

 

 

Those are future scenes. Plasma Guns and Plasma Weapons are two different weapons and the T-X didn't show to have those weapons either, even then, it wouldn't kill the T-1000, Just like Supermans heat vision wouldn't... It would just burned holes or trim him apart and the T-1000 would just regenerate and be as good as new again.... Nothing impressive.

 

 

Again where's your proof she selected that weaponary? The writers and the movie Itself never said such..... Not that it matters because none of the T-X's weaponary is very hot.... Johns M203 Grenade Launcher actually burned the T-800's flesh completely off and the Plasma Canon did not....

 

Her right arm got damaged by an RPG hit true, but while the T-800 Is lifting the huge blast door with one hand, the T-X grabs Johns leg and the T-800 uses his other hand to crush her arm and stop him from killing John.

 

 

In that video the T-X gets her arms crushed if you go to 2:12 you can see all the T-800 does is squeeze her arm. and she couldn't put her arm back together and remain her abilities.

 

The T-X was nothing, but a downgrade version of the T-1000 A Horrible downgrade, the T-1000 had his entire body blown into one and regenerated.

 

T-1000 Stomps.

[corvette1710]

Dude, you're so dense, you might as well be tungsten.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

U so funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Indolent]

 

 

Corvette, I refer you to ^

[corvette1710]

I was making reference to that... and chemistry. Heheh.

[DSkillz]

Also, we don't really allow images with profanity here. 

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