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Rumble 13692 T-850 (Terminator) vs. T-1000 (Terminator) vs. T-X (The Terminatrix)


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Dude, you're so dense, you might as well be tungsten.

Fail at Flamebaiting Is fail.

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Keep bringing up heat temperatures when no heat temperature was given.

Weaponized Plasma has temperatures in the base range of  5700 °C

 

This is a Bottom Estimate for Viable Military Grade Directed Energy Plasma Applications.

 

Projected estimates for temperatures range quite a bit higher though. Going even as high as 100,000,000 °C

 

Iron Melts at 1538 Â°C  (THIS IS NOT AN OPINION, THIS IS SCIENTIFIC FACT)

 

 

 

Few seconds? I think you need to rewatch T3 because it looked to be a few minutes rather than seconds.

In the several scenes shown where she takes it out, it takes approximatly only several seconds to charge it from no charge at all.

 

I believe you are counting the time between shots, which is rather stupid, considering there are a vast number of outside fources that are interupting her.

 

 

 

Do you not realize that Nuclear Explosions have the same affect as what we've been talking about? If Nuclear explosions ranged from millions of degrees, than the Earth would melt and Nuclear Explosions only occur with wind and fire. 

 

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/SimonFung.shtml

 

Please, know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.

 

1,000,000 to 10,000,000 °C is the average estimate by Nuclear Scientists who know alot more about Nuclear Physics then you or I.

 

 

 

Again where's your proof she selected that weaponary?

A Scene Directly from the Movie...

 

It shows Her Termiantor Vision, with all her specs showing...

 

It shows her selecting from that List of Weapons, the Plasma Cannon...

 

It's in the Movie.

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Weaponized Plasma has temperatures in the base range of  5700 °C

 

This is a Bottom Estimate for Viable Military Grade Directed Energy Plasma Applications.

 

Projected estimates for temperatures range quite a bit higher though. Going even as high as 100,000,000 °C

 

Iron Melts at 1538 Â°C  (THIS IS NOT AN OPINION, THIS IS SCIENTIFIC FACT)

If the Plasma Canon was really that hot, then it would of taken the T-800's flesh off and he wouldn't of needed Johns knife to cut his flesh off to get his damaged battery out. You arguing this and making up crap is stupid.

 

 

In the several scenes shown where she takes it out, it takes approximatly only several seconds to charge it from no charge at all.

 

I believe you are counting the time between shots, which is rather stupid, considering there are a vast number of outside fources that are interupting her.

Really? The scene where she used it to blow out traffic and the T-800 was on a motorcycle shows differently. When she used it again it was later when the T-800 was in the fire truck which was after the T-800 was hanging from the crain she used and after the T-800 got into the fire truck which was when she used it which was several minutes later. As I just stated a lot more was done before her Plasma Canon was charged which again was several minutes, if it was just seconds like you say, then she would of used it on the T-800 instead of that crain when she tried to get him out of the way.

 

I don't see how my argument is stupid considering what I just stated is true, the T-X never used her Plasma Canon less than 1 minute prior to when she previously used it..... You're only saying it took her several seconds just to make up crap to suit your needs to win this argument which I think is dumb.

 

 

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http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/SimonFung.shtml

 

Please, know what you're talking about before you open your mouth.

 

1,000,000 to 10,000,000 °C is the average estimate by Nuclear Scientists who know alot more about Nuclear Physics then you or I.

I know exactly what I am talking about. You just believe what you chose.

 

Oh yes you believe everything you read and blah blah blah, Just like Scientist say the world was gonna end in 2012 and yet we're still here, you're probably one of those people that believed the world was gonna end too because you seem that deluded. =/ 1,000,000,000 Is hotter than the sun, if any nuclear explosion was that hot, then this Earth would vanish as if it never existed and again Nuclear explosions cause fire. Fire is not that hot and the T-1000 survived that and so did the T-800...... Did the T-X ever show she can withstand fire? Nope, she never got in a truck explosion accident to show so, therefore she can't.

 

 

A Scene Directly from the Movie...

 

It shows Her Termiantor Vision, with all her specs showing...

 

It shows her selecting from that List of Weapons, the Plasma Cannon...

 

It's in the Movie.

The movie only showed what weapon she selected to replace her flame thrower after the T-800 hit her with a Rocket Launcher and damaged her arm, it didn't show a damn list of this and that crap. So again make up more lies.

 

Also their is a alternate scene at the end of T2 where the T-1000 rose of the lake of hot steel and killed John just after the T-800 got lowered and then the T-1000 teleported himself back into the future.... John was dead, but God told John that John needed to live so he sent John back to Earth and that's when John woke up in a Hospital bed with tubes sticking out of his nose, mouth...etc... So therefore, the T-1000 is not really dead so your heat argument is retarded.

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Actually he's stating the obvious, not flaming.

 

He said I was Dense. Dense means thick. Whats so thick about me? LOL 

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Also their is a alternate scene at the end of T2 where the T-1000 rose of the lake of hot steel and killed John just after the T-800 got lowered and then the T-1000 teleported himself back into the future.... John was dead, but God told John that John needed to live so he sent John back to Earth and that's when John woke up in a Hospital bed with tubes sticking out of his nose, mouth...etc... So therefore, the T-1000 is not really dead so your heat argument is retarded.

An alternate scene. As in a scene that was unused. As in an ending that did not happen. Dear lord, I believe I just got a headache.

 

He said I was Dense. Dense means thick. Whats so thick about me? LOL 

So, just trolling at this point?

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An alternate scene. As in a scene that was unused. As in an ending that did not happen. Dear lord, I believe I just got a headache.

Well it was unused because it was cut from the theatrical version of T2. Now you have a headache? Then stop reading my posts.

 

 

So, just trolling at this point?

How am I trolling? Is  Skirmisher one of your butt buddys and you're sticking up for him? If that's so that would make me a troll? Whatever...........

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How am I trolling? Is  Skirmisher one of your butt buddys and you're sticking up for him? If that's so that would make me a troll? Whatever...........

Yes. I like to get together with everyone who disagrees with you and have a butt party.

I assumed any person who didn't know that dense=dumb in the context it was used is trolling. I just refuse to believe anyone is so dumb as not to get that.

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Yes. I like to get together with everyone who disagrees with you and have a butt party.

I assumed any person who didn't know that dense=dumb in the context it was used is trolling. I just refuse to believe anyone is so dumb as not to get that.

Yes you wanna join the go T-X, Go power squad because you evidently cant argue on your own ok.............. If Dense = Dumb, then you should of used that term. Dumb is just one definition of the word Dense...... If I'm dumb, then you're a retard who can't wipe his bottom that lives in a wheelchair.

 

I can come up with far better insults than you ever will.

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Yes you wanna join the go T-X, Go power squad because you evidently cant argue on your own ok.............. If Dense = Dumb, then you should of used that term. Dumb is just one definition of the word Dense...... If I'm dumb, then you're a retard who can't wipe his bottom that lives in a wheelchair.

 

I can come up with far better insults than you ever will.

Not the one who called you dense. Just explaining what any 12 year old who can speak English already knows.

Yes, those insults are incredible. I'll just have to curl up in my wheelchair and cry. Hope I don't have to poop.

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Not the one who called you dense. Just explaining what any 12 year old who can speak English already knows.

Yes, those insults are incredible. I'll just have to curl up in my wheelchair and cry. Hope I don't have to poop.

I never said you were the guy that said I was dense, but since you aren't the guy and you claim he meant I was stupid, that shows you're just starting......ya know.............. trouble.

 

anywho T-1000 Stomps the T-X's face into the ground.

 

The T-800 already owns both of them.

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I never said you were the guy that said I was dense, but since you aren't the guy and you claim he meant I was stupid, that shows you're just starting......ya know.............. trouble.

 

anywho T-1000 Stomps the T-X's face into the ground.

 

The T-800 already owns both of them.

I really just want to address that last point. You're joking, right? With only each other to fight, no human they're supposed to terminate to distract them, the T-1000 and the T-X destroy the T-800/T-850. Did you actually watch the movies?

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I really just want to address that last point. You're joking, right? With only each other to fight, no human they're supposed to terminate to distract them, the T-1000 and the T-X destroy the T-800/T-850. Did you actually watch the movies?

Yes, In fact I own all of the movies. So if you think I aint seen em, then lol at you...... Have you seen the movies? Obviously not. I'll spoil it for ya anyways.

 

The T-800 defeated both of them.

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The T-800 in T2 got mangled by the T-1000. It was with the assistance of Sarah Connor that the T-1000 was defeated - definitive proof that the T-800 couldn't take on the T-1000 by itself.

 

The T-850 could go toe to toe physically with the TX... but initially she ruptured its fuel cell with a plasma shot prior in the beginning, and proceeds to prove its dominance over the T-850 in the bathroom brawl, eventually decapitating it and taking control of it after it was rendered offline. It required the use of a massive helicopter transport to severely damage it followed by a miniature nuclear detonation, which demonstrates that the T-850 had to reach beyond its capabilities in order to "defeat" the TX.

 

What this demonstrates is: The T-800/850 are not superior and wouldn't "own" them per say in a direct confrontation to destruction... rather the opposite.

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The T-800 in T2 got mangled by the T-1000. It was with the assistance of Sarah Connor that the T-1000 was defeated - definitive proof that the T-800 couldn't take on the T-1000 by itself.

 

The T-850 could go toe to toe physically with the TX... but initially she ruptured its fuel cell with a plasma shot prior in the beginning, and proceeds to prove its dominance over the T-850 in the bathroom brawl, eventually decapitating it and taking control of it after it was rendered offline. It required the use of a massive helicopter transport to severely damage it followed by a miniature nuclear detonation, which demonstrates that the T-850 had to reach beyond its capabilities in order to "defeat" the TX.

 

What this demonstrates is: The T-800/850 are not superior and wouldn't "own" them per say in a direct confrontation to destruction... rather the opposite.

The T-1000 didn't even mangle the T-800 at all until they wound up in the Steel Meel, the T-1000 only mangled the T-800 by using surrounding objects because he obviously couldn't do it with his shapeshifting, sharp metal knife abilities.... Which is definite proof the T-1000 can't do anything to the T-800 either if it's H2H. Help or not, the T-800 still won. It wasn't the fact he had help from Sarah, it was the fact he happened to be there at the right place at the right time. Like I Said anyways, help or not he still won.

 

 

Did the T-800 have any help defeating the T-X? Not really, the Connors did nothing for him, John only fired a gun at her a couple times which was non impressive, It was a whoopty doo moment. All the T-800 had to do was run her over with a helicopter, when he stopped her from killing John, he crushed her arm with his left hand while lifting a blast door up with the other and then shoved his fuel cell in her mouth which destroyed them both, but the T-800 still won because it was his nuclear battery.

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The T-1000 actually defeated the T-800 in the fight at the Mall and proceeded to search for John Connor. Then it proceeded to prove its superiority once more in the steel mill - because the T-800 could not do harm to it without outside assistance, i.e. liquid nitrogen/smelted steel.

 

I never said he did but the point was, on a basis just on their abilities, the TX is clearly superior and as I said in a direct physical confrontation to demonstration their capability, the TX would thrash the T-850. Was the point. Same goes for the T-1000.

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The T-1000 actually defeated the T-800 in the fight at the Mall and proceeded to search for John Connor. Then it proceeded to prove its superiority once more in the steel mill - because the T-800 could not do harm to it without outside assistance, i.e. liquid nitrogen/smelted steel.

 

I never said he did but the point was, on a basis just on their abilities, the TX is clearly superior and as I said in a direct physical confrontation to demonstration their capability, the TX would thrash the T-850. Was the point. Same goes for the T-1000.

No he did not, how did the T-1000 win? They were slamming each other against brick walls and the T-1000 knocked the T-800 down and threw him out the window and then walked away because he was to focused on John. The T-800 wasn't dead or even KO'd.....  I could say the T-800 defeated the T-800 by shooting him off the cop car.... Again the T-1000 didn't show any superiority other than his shapeshifting abilities and his healing factor, but because in the steel meel he had to use surrounding objects to damage the T-800, that shows his advantage over the T-800 is not all that impressive.  The T-1000 had to use a metal rod separate from his own weaponary to shut the T-800 down however, the T-1000 still failed at killing him.... Also the T-800 won when he blew the T-1000 into pieces..... That was a KO right there. same with the grenade shot.

 

The T-X would trash the T-800 and yet she failed horribly... Ok... that makes sense. Nope, the T-1000 failed horribly at killing him too... sorry, but it's the truth.

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