Godzilla vs Godzilla

[RakaiThwei]

Showa Godzilla

 

 

Abilities

 

- Super Strength

- Hand to Hand Combat

- Atomic Beam

- Charged Atomic Beam

- Electro Magnetic Field Manipulation

- Extreme Durability

- Accelerated Healing Factor

 

Film Appearances

 

Gojira (1954)

Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

King Kong vs Godzilla (1962)

Mothra vs Godzilla (1964)

Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster (1964)

Invasion of Astro-Monster (1965)

Godzilla vs The Sea Monster (1966)

Son of Godzilla (1967)

Destroy All Monsters (1968)

All Monsters Attack (1969)

Godzilla vs Hedorah (1971)

Godzilla vs Gigan (1972)

Godzilla vs Megalon (1973)

Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla (1974)

The Terror of MechaGodzilla (1975)

 

Heisei Godzilla

 

 

Abilities

 

- Super Strength

- Hand to Hand Combat

- Atomic Beam

- Charged Atomic Beam

- Spiral Atomic Beam

- Red Spiral Atomic Beam

- Extreme Durability

- Organizer G1 Accelerated Healing

 

Film Appearances

 

Gojira (1954)

The Return of Godzilla (1984)

Godzilla vs Biollante (1989)

Godzilla vs King Ghidora (1991)

Godzilla vs Mothra (1992)

Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla II (1993)

Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla (1994)

Godzilla vs Destroyah (1995)

 

Battle Environement

 

Tokyo, Japan

 

[Indolent]

Heisei with relative ease.

[RakaiThwei]

Heisei with relative ease.

 

I mean if we do take into account the size differences between the two incarnations of Godzilla... Then yeah, especially considering the fact that Showa Godzilla is up to maybe chest level compared to Heisei Godzilla, until Godzilla was made even more bigger by the events of Godzilla vs King Ghidora when his origin story was changed.

 

 

 

 

But when I had written this rumbles, I had it in mind that the two incarnations of Godzilla should be the same size for the sake of keeping the match even. So let's assume that they are roughly the same size.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Indolent]

Nothing to do with the size. Heisei is canonically more powerful for reasons aside size.

 

Edit: God dammit Smartphone

[RakaiThwei]

Nothing to do with the size. Heisei is canonically more powerful for reasons aside speed.

 

Well from what I have seen of both the Showa and the Heisei films-- they are still essentially the same character as far as mannerisms go, what the differences are is the fact that the Showa era Godzilla was for all intense and purposes-- a hero. Where as the Heisei era Godzilla is more of a villain turned Anti-hero.

 

That said, for the most part-- their tactics are mostly the same from what I can remember. Both Godzillas every now and then like to get in upclose and personal to lay into their opponent and deliver some serious blows, though the Heisei Godzilla tends to be more of a ranged fighter as he uses his atomic beam more. However he does like to get in upclose and personal. However the Showa era Godzilla has displayed some martial arts (to a comical and campy degree) where the Heisei era is more about ferocity and brute strength. So the Showa era probably has an edge over Heisei as far as hand to hand skills go.

 

The chances of the two Godzillas getting it into close quarters combat is very high.

 

It's no question without a doubt that the Heisei era Godzilla is more powerful than the Showa counterpart. Throw in the power which he was given by Fire Rodan in the events of Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla II, then we've got Burning Godzilla-- who is vastly more powerful but his body was unable to contain that added power and he was going through a nuclear meltdown. I didn't account for the Burning Godzilla because I felt that form would've been a bit overkill against Showa era Godzilla.

 

I can agree that the Heisei era would likely win, but not necessarily easily. Probably with fair difficulty, but nothing overwhelming. This fight wouldn't turn out like Godzilla vs Zilla in Final Wars.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Indolent]

I'm well aware of the similarities and differences yet I've already cast my opinion on the rumbles itself, i.e. Heisei wins with relative ease.

 

Edit: They're not essentially the same character because you basically contradict yourself in the following paragraphs, i.e. mannerisms consists of what the characters do, i.e. Heisei preferring Ranged to Showa preferring Melee, Heroic to Anti-Hero, etc, etc.

 

Heisei is pretty much far more sadistic and ruthless compared to Showa, where he plays the hero's role and indirectly limits collateral damage... whereas Heisei simply doesn't give a *vulgarity* and will go for the kill.

 

That aside, Heisei's powers were significantly more powerful. Though I presume boosting Showa's size also indirectly bolsters his durability and strength, Heisei is still more powerful.

 

There's a reason I said with relative ease.

[C.T.]

Zilla wins.

[Indolent]

Oh you.

[C.T.]

He ish better than these 2.

[Indolent]

Prove it cuz I've got proof that he pales in comparison

[C.T.]

Cause he's a *vulgarity*ing iguana, alright?

[Indolent]

THEY'RE *vulgarity*ING DINOSAURS ALRIGHT?!

[C.T.]

Iguana are cooler.

[RakaiThwei]

Prove it cuz I've got proof that he pales in comparison

 

Not to mention Final Wars already did Godzilla vs Zilla... Though it was Final Godzilla (whom is a fusion between Showa, Heisei and Millenium) against Zilla. Still... Zilla would get slaughtered by Godzilla, though... it should be noted that Ryuhei Kitamura made the fight so short as a pot-shot against GINO.

 

Either way...

 

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Indolent]

That was the proof I spoke off.

 

AND YOU'RE WRONG, DINOSAURS ARE COOLER.

 

OUR CHICKENS USED TO BE T-REXES.

[RakaiThwei]

That was the proof I spoke off.

 

Well IDW's Godzilla: Rulers of the Earth comic series is supposed to do a re-match with Godzilla and Zilla.

 

And it was confirmed by IDW Artist Matt Frank that the re-match will be a REAL fight, not a pot-shot like Final Wars' fight was.

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Indolent]

Eh, we know he'll lose anyways.

[RakaiThwei]

Eh, we know he'll lose anyways.

 

Actually, we don't...

 

Especially if IDW combines movie Zilla with the animated Zilla Jr's abilities... Who also had the ability to produce atomic beams. I haven't read any of IDW's Godzilla series though..

 

-Rakai'Thwei

[Indolent]

We know Zilla is vastly inferior physically wise and from what I saw in the show, it's an atomic flame breath, pretty much the same as the one the Zilla in the LA Film portrayed that destroyed and exploded military vehicles.

 

Hence my proclamation of "We know he'll lose"

[C.T.]

No.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

Loved that scene, though I'd really enjoy an extended fight between the two.

 

Showa vs. Heisei is tough. Heisei is more realistic (if you can call anything in the Godzilla-verse realistic) and I kind of  lean that way, but Showa has all kinds of funky-cool impossible powers, like using his breath like a rocket thruster (Godzilla vs Hedorah) or generating impossibly powerful magnetic fields from nowhere (Godzilla vs Mecha-Godzilla) plus he's got a real professional wrestler mojo going in some of his films.

[RakaiThwei]

Loved that scene, though I'd really enjoy an extended fight between the two.

 

Showa vs. Heisei is tough. Heisei is more realistic (if you can call anything in the Godzilla-verse realistic) and I kind of  lean that way, but Showa has all kinds of funky-cool impossible powers, like using his breath like a rocket thruster (Godzilla vs Hedorah) or generating impossibly powerful magnetic fields from nowhere (Godzilla vs Mecha-Godzilla) plus he's got a real professional wrestler mojo going in some of his films.

 

Finally, someone who gives Showa Godzilla some more credit here!

 

Those were some abilities which I have forgotten-- such as Godzilla being able to somehow levitate and fly by using his Atomic Breath to do just that very feat-- and then there was the fact that Showa Godzilla had managed to somehow break physics by doing that tail slide kick in Godzilla vs Megalon. The tail slide, my lord that was some pretty campy but awesome ability there.

 

Yeah, Showa Godzilla did display some martial arts here and there in the Showa era films because a couple of his actors, or one of them actually was a black belt in Karate. I can't remember which actor but some of the directors actually decided that Godzilla had some knowledge of martial arts and it was worked into some of the Showa films.

 

But I can understand why some people would say that Heisei era Godzilla would win.

 

-Rakai'Thwei