4 way 4 man team battle

[Guest Darxeth]

I don't think that's canon, since it's showing Deadpool as well.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

I don't think that's canon, since it's showing Deadpool as well.

It is, it happens in Superman Batman Annual 1.

[Guest Darxeth]

Crossovers aren't usually considered canon unless specified otherwise though, no matter which issue they are in.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

Crossovers aren't usually considered canon unless specified otherwise though, no matter which issue they are in.

It isn't a crossover. The story is canon, and was done without Marvel's consent, so it technically isn't Deadpool, and the name is never used.

[Guest Darxeth]

Ahh. I see.

Then the feat stands.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

Ahh. I see.

Then the feat stands.

If Batman can drop DS that quickly, he has the strength to drop Cap.

[Guest Darxeth]

Perhaps, if he could cheap shot him, but Batman has never dropped DS that quickly in a straight up fight.

[Guest force_echo]

How? Captain America is stronger, but I haven't seen evidence to show a massive advantage here, since Batman has the larger bench and his own share of good strength feats. Speed wise, the Captain America feat of moving across the room and blocking bullets is more impressive than any speed feat Batman has, but again, Batman has plenty of speed feats putting him not that far below Cap's speed. But then you look at Batman's advantages. He is more skilled than Captain America for all the reasons previously stated, and people seem to agree on that. Then, look at his equipment advantage. Firstly, both wear armor, but all the evidence points to Batman's being superior. What happens if Captain America grabs Batman and gets 200,000 volts run through him? Any weapon like explosive or sonic batarangs could wear down/distract Cap, setting him up for the knockout. What if Batman hits him with cryo pellets, freezing him to the ground? All these gadgets will tip the battle in Batman's favor.

All of those gadgets can be blocked by the shield. The electricity won't even work at all, because Cap's armor is insulated (as shown when he beat Electro). Also, Batman does not have superior armor, they're both made of the same materials (Kevlar/Titanium/Nomex) except that Cap's armor is scaled, making it more capable to take hits (see Dragonskin armor in real life). It took an entire clip of 9mm rounds in the same spot to get through. Also, Cap's armor has been complemented on its resiliency by Iron Man himself.

 

Your reasons for Batman having greater skill have already been refuted. It's actually canon (JLA/Avengers) that they have equal H2H capability, and they do.

 

Batman doesn't have anywhere NEAR the strength feats Cap has. Cap's busted through a reactor door that took particle beams without buckling, he threw his shield and cleaved a SUPERSONIC missile in half after the missile's already been fired (as in, he can throw his shield faster than a bullet), he cleaved a truck, engine and all, in half like goddamn hot knife through butter, etc.

[Guest force_echo]

Batman has ones-shotted Deathstroke, an enhanced soldier with a healing factor and nth metal armor. It was a cheap shot, but that shows that he can put down Cap.

Except he's shown that he CAN'T put down Deathstroke in a straight fight, even with the entire Bat family helping. Also, he didn't have Nth Metal armor when that happened.

[Guest Darxeth]

Just because Batman supposedly benches more (That's debatable) doesn't mean he hits harder than Cap, which is more important than how much you bench in terms of combat.