1:5 - Scar Predator vs. Voldemort

[Guest bigballerju]

Good debate and fair voting. That's always great.

[Indolent]

I'm suspicious about the voting but k lol

[Guest Darxeth]

Yeah. Thing is, in Harry Potter, spells don't do too well against creatures with thick skin. (Like Dragons, Trolls, Giants, etc)

But I still see Voldemort winning by a good margin via Fiendfyre. That's right, not crucio, not Avada Kadavra, but fiendfyre.

 

 

And as for the votes, I'm surprised to see how close it was.

[Indolent]

Predators have toughened skin, not thick?

[Skirmisher]

Predators have toughened skin, not thick?

I think it was both actually... Or something like a Hardened skin with a thick under layer of a denser rubbery like fatty tissue to absorb impacts and electricity or something...

[Indolent]

Predators are far more denser than humans overall, through and through, so they don't necessarily need to have thick skin because of that.

[Guest Darxeth]

In the context above, the thick skin/tough skin are synonymous. In Goblet of fire, it was stated due to their tough hide, spells didn't effect dragons anywhere near as much as wizards. However, later it stated because of their thick hide.

 

Either way, Predators aren't going to be affected as easily. That's okay though, because Fiendfyre is hot enough to kill them fairly quickly

[Indolent]

Dragons can evidently be affected by spells if hit in the right spot and I'm seriously willing to bet while Dragons certainly have thicker skin/denser bodies than the likes of Yautja, Yautja are still capable of being affected by spells.

 

Besides I'm more under the impression the reason dragons aren't affected by spells aside their "skin" is because of their magical nature. -.-

[Guest Darxeth]

Well, yes, they can still be affected by spells it just takes more to do so. For instance, in GoF, A bunch of wizards were able to stupefy a dragon by blasting it over and over at he same time.

 

And creatures magical in nature aren't immune to magic in HP, Dragons are no different. Their eyes are very vulnerable to magic. Their skin is what protects them from such things. . It is repeatedly stated in HP that tougher skinned beasts are less affected by spells.

[Indolent]

Okay so the argument is moot for someone like a Yautja then?

 

Especially given the sheer firepower behind Voldemort's spells.

[Guest Darxeth]

Honestly, Voldemort could probably down a Yautja with Avada Kadavra on the first try, depending on how angry he is.

[Guest Incredible Hulk]

Concerning the tough/thick skin debate, I might have remembered wrong but wasn't Hagrid unaffected by some spells deatheaters were casting at one point in the books?

[Guest Darxeth]

Concerning the tough/thick skin debate, I might have remembered wrong but wasn't Hagrid unaffected by some spells deatheaters were casting at one point in the books?

Right you are. This is because he's half-giant. Though he was still affected by the spells, it was to a lesser degree.

[Fox]

Right you are. This is because he's half-giant. Though he was still affected by the spells, it was to a lesser degree.

That would seem to suggest some spells are designed / intended for the human physiology.  Predators are pretty far from human.

[Guest Darxeth]

It ust goes back to the thicker/tougher skin thing. The tougher/thicker the skin, the less affected by certain spells it is. (Spells like reducio or expulsio would still probably effect them like they normally would a human)

[Guest SmileyPredator]

I wanna say Scar but Voldemort's magic might prove to be too versatile. I think a veteran predator, one who's a master of stealth, would have a good chance of winning. Scar...I dunno

[Guest Darxeth]

I'm not too aware of Scar's capabilities, but if he's fairly stealthy, he'd have a decent chance at winning.