Guest sirmethos Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I promise you I keep forgetting Captain America is mentally enhanced. Marvel doesn't show it a lot.A good example is out maneuvering Spider-Man, by throwing his shield so that it activates the Spider-Sense, distracting Peter so that Cap can get a solid punch in on him(he hits spider-man full in the face). He came up with the plan, and did the 'calculations' for the throw, on the spot. Another good example is the fact that he can "see bullets moving" which makes him able to dodge them. That is only capable because his mind processes information at a much higher level than normal humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 A good example is out maneuvering Spider-Man, by throwing his shield so that it activates the Spider-Sense, distracting Peter so that Cap can get a solid punch in on him(he hits spider-man full in the face). He came up with the plan, and did the 'calculations' for the throw, on the spot. Another good example is the fact that he can "see bullets moving" which makes him able to dodge them. That is only capable because his mind processes information at a much higher level than normal humans.In all fairness Daredevil did the same thing to Spider-man so that feat itself doesn't require enhanced mental capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 My list would be this.1/2. Batman or Captain America takes the number one slot. They can both be very lethal with the majority of weapons provided, are tactical genius's, and outclass most of the other fighters skill wise and physically. 2. I would say Punisher. As with above, he will be deadly with any of the firearms he gets his hands on. But what puts him high in the list is his survivalist training and ingenuity. 3. Snake-Eyes. He has extensive knowledge of the weaponry here, and has the skill and physicals to put down tributes in combat. 4. Wolverine. Enhanced physicals, extensive training, and adamantium coated bones. Bucky, Ollie and Hawkeye in no particular order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Right, because Batman knows how to, and actively uses firearms nowadays. Cap's mental feats are more impressive in the Avengers than solo. He's able to tactically out think the likes of Ultron, Kang, and Korvac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Right, because Batman knows how to, and actively uses firearms nowadays. Cap's mental feats are more impressive in the Avengers than solo. He's able to tactically out think the likes of Ultron, Kang, and Korvac. You should try reading more comics. detective576-batshot2.jpg Note that in this scan Bruce hasn't been keeping up with his marksmanship. They have training before this event. detective576-batshot2.jpg Slade had earlier noted that the target had drifted out of effective range. Batman shot the guns out of someones hands when they weren't in effective range. He's no Punisher, but he's an extremely deadly threat with guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 You should try reading more comics. detective576-batshot2.jpg Note that in this scan Bruce hasn't been keeping up with his marksmanship. They have training before this event. detective576-batshot2.jpg Slade had earlier noted that the target had drifted out of effective range. Batman shot the guns out of someones hands when they weren't in effective range. He's no Punisher, but he's an extremely deadly threat with guns.First off, that's the same scan twice. Second, shooting at targets and shooting to kill people who are shooting back (something Batman won't do, you should try reading more comics) are two completely far off things. Olympian rifle shooters wouldn't make good snipers. Also, Batman won't go for the guns, or at least, he'll be hesitant, losing his opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 First off, that's the same scan twice. Second, shooting at targets and shooting to kill people who are shooting back (something Batman won't do, you should try reading more comics) are two completely far off things. Olympian rifle shooters wouldn't make good snipers. Also, Batman won't go for the guns, or at least, he'll be hesitant, losing his opportunity.Sorry about that, missed the other scan. detective710-batstrokeshot4.jpg You should also read the OP. Batman will kill here. Anyways, he will play it smart, get what he can, and disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Sorry about that, missed the other scan. detective710-batstrokeshot4.jpg You should also read the OP. Batman will kill here. Anyways, he will play it smart, get what he can, and disappear.The OP directly says that all characters are in character, which means that Batman won't shoot anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergy_Berg Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Honestly, I only see Cap and Wolverine really being able to make it in and out of the cornucopia alive. They're the two with the highest physical abilities, and will be beating everyone else to the middle. If no one else heads to the middle, I think Captain America takes out Wolverine there. If some of the others head for the goodies, they'll be taken out by those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Batman has never used a gun regularly nor does he have any skill anywhere near the rest of them like Bucky or Castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The OP directly says that all characters are in character, which means that Batman won't shoot anyone. I said read the OP, not skim it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 If you read the OP Batman won't kill at first. It states if all options are exhausted he will kill. Batman hates guns and doesn't need them to kill. Batman if he wants to kill has plenty of other ways. Plus he does not have much skill or experience with guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I said read the OP, not skim it.Yeah, I did. I read it as the author's interpretation is that Batman will kill if all other options are exhausted, but that's not who Batman is. Besides, even if, he's severely handicapped. "All other options exhausted" definitely does not mean he'll be going for guns straight off, and he'll be at a disadvantage. Wolverine doesn't care about killing him. Neither does Snake Eyes. Neither does Punisher, hell, even Cap will be a shitton more ruthless.% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Yeah, I did. I read it as the author's interpretation is that Batman will kill if all other options are exhausted, but that's not who Batman is. Besides, even if, he's severely handicapped. "All other options exhausted" definitely does not mean he'll be going for guns straight off, and he'll be at a disadvantage. Wolverine doesn't care about killing him. Neither does Snake Eyes. Neither does Punisher, hell, even Cap will be a shitton more ruthless.%Fair point. But Batman will have noted everyones abilities in training, and will not put himself in a compromised situation. He'll grab some food, rope, a knife, and get out of there. Again, I also think that Captain America has an equally good chance of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badpierce Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I guess I would change my vote to hawkeye after hearing your logic. As far as a favorite. I Think punisher could kill some with traps alone. Batman would have a hard time killing, even if he has too. Also Bruce probably is the worst with a gun. I could see it coming down to cap, Logan and frank, with frank winning. Edit: really both oliver and hawkeye are going for the bow, might be a fist fight for it. Who wins that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Ah you make a good point thanos. They did go through training so a lot of them would make notes on the others. That's something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badpierce Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Are team ups aloud? Wouldn't Bucky and cap team up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Team ups are fine as long as its something the character would logically do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest force_echo Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Good point. I see the teams going down like this: Bruce and OliverWolverine and CastleSteve, Hawkeye, and BuckySnake Eyes is solo By this scenario, Snake probably goes down first, then Bruce and Oliver, then Wolverine and Castle. Out of the three left, Hawkeye's down first, then Bucky, making Cap the winner. The problem with this whole matchup is that there's no way these guys would actually bite and kill each other. Bruce and Cap would make some kind of plan. Maybe they would fake deaths, to trick whoever the overseers are, but the only dead people in this scenario are the people "controlling" them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The midday sun beat down oppressively on eight motionless bodies. Eight blank faces, unblinking in the sweltering heat. Eight bodies coiled like compressed springs, ready to leap into action. Aggression, intensity, strength of will, barely contained by tense muscles and unwavering stares, ready to be released.It seemed like an eternity, standing there, minds reeling to take in every inch of terrain, every tiny detail that could be the difference between life…and death. And then all of the sudden there it was. The loud, bellowing thrust of the horn. So thick and heavy you could feel it in your chest and on your sweat stained face. It was disorienting in it’s severity, like the shockwave of an explosion ripping through the air. No one stood still, all eight figures leaping to life. The cornucopia sat there in front of them like an oasis. The weapons were all concentrated in the center of the area, with small backpacks full of clothing, and a hunting knife strewn across the outer edges.Crates and sacks of food lay in between. A couple of the figures snatched a backpack and bolted for cover. However, a few though made a dash for the weapons. They ran as if their bodies were on fire, hurdling bags of clothing and baskets of fruit. The weapons were strew wildly across the cornucopia, the ammo as far away from the gun that it belonged to as possible. Two bare-chested men scrambled for one item in particular, as light from the burning sun glinted brightly off it’s polished curves. One of the men was just a step ahead of the other and he grasped the bow with his outstretched hand. No sooner had his fingers wrapped around the handle than the other man hit with bone crushing force. He wrapped his arms around the first man and tackled him to the ground, sending boxes of supplies tumbling. The man with the bow swung it swiftly wracking the second man across the side of his head. He reversed positions pinning his opponent down with the bow to his neck. The trapped man gasped for breath the cold metal of the bow crushing his trachea. He grabbed at the bow trying to pull it from his throat, but his opponent was strong, and had the advantage of leverage. He created just enough slack to pull a deep breath into his aching lungs. He dug deep, beyond the pain, beyond the agony and forced himself to focus. Out of the corner of his eye something caught the light of the sun. He reached out to it, grasping it with a lightning fast motion, and plunging the crossbow bolt into his opponent’s neck.Clint Barton lay in a pool of scarlet liquid, his bloodstained assailant sprinting off into the rugged terrain with a bow and quiver slung over his broad shoulders.RIP Clint Barton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Good point. I see the teams going down like this: Bruce and OliverWolverine and CastleSteve, Hawkeye, and BuckySnake Eyes is solo By this scenario, Snake probably goes down first, then Bruce and Oliver, then Wolverine and Castle. Out of the three left, Hawkeye's down first, then Bucky, making Cap the winner. The problem with this whole matchup is that there's no way these guys would actually bite and kill each other. Bruce and Cap would make some kind of plan. Maybe they would fake deaths, to trick whoever the overseers are, but the only dead people in this scenario are the people "controlling" them.If he realized everyone else was planning on teaming up Snake-Eyes wouldn't be stupid enough to charge in blindly. He'd disappear and survive until he could turn the tables. He'll either let them thin each other out, or play a stealth game until he finds a weakness. The only person here capable of tracking him is Wolverine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Wolverine's ability to track the others is a good advantage he has over the rest. He also is a excellent soldier, hunter, and warrior wrapped in one. He has the highest chances of winning. Cap and Batman are gone have to kill. If we are going by Hunter Game rules they can't fake their deaths since the cameras will be watching.t Those cameras are everywhere and keep in mind they probably have the areas set up with all sorts of traps to control the location. They could probably say they would never kill and the people behind the games would find a way to punish them for their actions. However they may be forced to kill because some of the others wouldn't have a problem doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Lets assume the collars they are wearing have vital signs monitoring in them to make faking death even more difficult as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hayesmeister5651 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Long time no see Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lunacyde Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 It has been a while...comment on my thread good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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