UMPIRE Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 SEASON 2, ROUND 10The HulkSlot: The Team Anchor Season Wins: 2 Season Losses: 0 Fantasy Team PageRead more about The Hulk at WikipediaOfficial Site: Marvel Comics Mumm-Ra the Ever-LivingSlot: The Team Anchor Season Wins: 3 Season Losses: 0 Fantasy Team PageRead more about Mumm-Ra the Ever-Living at WikipediaOfficial Site: Rankin/Bass Battle TerrainCombat Terrain: Pandora Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sithisson Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 The Hulk still needs to breathe right? Might be able to withstand some of it I suppose with his healing factor going. This looks to be an interesting fight but I think magic might triumph where sheer strength does not. Sure he broke Strange's hands but take a look there that one the man was trying reason and two gave him an outlet to follow the magic back to. Mumm-ra's not going to be doing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 He broke Strange's hand as World War Hulk. Being that the person who picked Hulk has him in this slot we are dealing with one of the classic Hulks or live action versions who are less powerful by quite a margin. In other words yea Mumm-Ra can definitely win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Movie-Brat Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well, if it's the Hulk from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, I have this funny mental image of replacing Loki with Mumm-Ra in terms of getting the tar thrown out of him. At least when he's transforming into the Ever-Living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 That Loki didn't show much magic abilities. Mumm-Ra in the jungle can attack from a distance without being seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leroypowell3 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 This is a good one. Mumm-Ra's going to need the Sword of Plundar and all the power he can beg out of the spirits of evil. But I see him beating The Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sithisson Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 The Sword would be overkill I think in this case. The jungle plays well in this case and he would not try going in for a direct attack with something that looks to be a massive beast. So magical bolts, among other spells he can use from afar, not to mention if he starts screwing with time and space. Not that Mumm-ra will have to get to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dinsdale Piranha Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I never saw Mumm-Ra do anything that makes me think he's a match for any version of the Hulk other than Ferrigno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sithisson Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I'd never seen a Hulk that would not need some sort of breathing involved? Mumm-ra's not some foolish fighter after all. Unless it was for the Sword of Omens or the Eye within that Sword I'd not consider him the sort to rush right into some sort of monster like the Hulk. He's used time manipulation before and has both imprison and freed one from being stranded in a time-warp.He can stay in the air for far longer then the leaping power of the Hulk and fire bolts from there. If the Hulk grab him it's not like he's some weakling either as he does have some strength about him. He's even enslaved his exact opposite who served the forces of good into serving him and evil in general.Placing him in falling only to the slight bodybuilding version of the Hulk is limiting he who is the Ever-Living. I can't see him against the World War Hulk but then again this isn't him.Even if he can sustain the gases here, yes the Hulk has withstand space and underwater after all, he's going to have to adapt to this sort of environment once the apparatus is off whereas Mumm-Ra might as well not be wearing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badpierce Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Did hulk where a suit in world war hulk at the beginning? When they tricked him into space to fight that robot?Edit: in Age of Ultron Sue Storm puts him down by cutting off his air so I guess he does need air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I never saw Mumm-Ra do anything that makes me think he's a match for any version of the Hulk other than Ferrigno.Mumm-Ra with his magic can definitely beat other Hulks besides Ferrigno and the forest is a perfect place for him to do it from a distance without being seen. Hulk does need air to breathe in a lot of locations. Johnny Storm beat him too by cutting off the oxygen around him with his fire and trapping him. Their are other example that show this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 So what Hulk is this? Savage Hulk? Grey Hulk? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigballerju Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 That's up to the person who has Hulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dinsdale Piranha Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Classic Hulk can hold his breath for over an hour, however he knows how to use breathing equipment. Way back when Hulk-Buster Base was first established, Ross' troops had their best successes against the Hulk using anesthetic gas. The holding cells had 10' thick concrete and steel walls, which were useless, but there was a space between the inner and outer walls for gas and that worked. This went on for about 8 or 10 issues until Hulk picked up a fallen soldier's gas-mask and used it. After that, gas was pretty much useless as Hulk would hold his breath or use some other strategy. So, even with his child-like intellect, Hulk knows about gas, breathing equipment and the need to hold his breath it he needs to. The first issue i know of where he showed this awareness was Incredible Hulk #150. The scans in the link show him using a gas mask. It also shows him lifting a huge slab of rock. i can't find the scan but have the issue and estimated the weight of the rock at 10,000 tons. This was after a short fight with Havok. Hulk was pissed off but not It's odd to me to see people referring to Classic Hulk as weak. He wasn't doing planet-wrecking stunts back then (not all the time, anyway) but he was still one of the (possible the) strongest mortal around. He fought Juggernaut to a standstill (Incredible Hulk #172) and was so durable that not even Valkyrie's enchanted sword Dragonfang (Incredible Hulk #207) or Wolverine's claws (Incredible Hulk #181) could pierce his skin. If you're gonna count him as weaker than more recent versions, you should also give him the superior invulnerability he had back then. At any rate, Hulk is smart enough not to rip off the breathing equipment and, if Mumm-Ra destroys it, he's smart enough to hold his breath. An hour should be long enough to end the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnamax Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 ^ Pretty good points here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thanosisawesome Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Couldn't Mumm Ra just destroy his breathing equipment then hide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Red_Dragon Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well yeah, but that's not a very cinematic way to view the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sithisson Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well yeah, but that's not a very cinematic way to view the fight.True but he could destroy the breathing apparatus, slink into the woods and continue to attack him from a distance from up high. Sure the Hulk can leap, can toss stuff up at his foe, and so on but he can't levitate or fly. As to thinking Classic Hulk weak. Well I was equally amazed to see it suggested Mumm-ra could only handle Lou's version of the character being how versatile the ThunderCat villain's been shown to be. Sure The Hulk is smart but it's not like he's facing one of the Mutates who'd screw up this battle. If Mumm-Ra's getting involved then it could be taken that all other options have been wasted, Mutates and the like if this was an crossover episode, and the leader had to come in to deal with the problematic creature itself. He's not going to go head on if he thinks it'll be to his disadvantage. Unless he's holding the Eye in one of his purple shorts there is no real reason Mumma-Ra's flying right at the Hulk in a fit of rage. He's still got to deal with someone who can bring a slew of magical attacks to bear.Shrugging off magical swords is different then mystical bolts.He'd lift the Hulk with telekinetic magic and toss him away from the battleground if he had to get a chance to work out a different tactic. Cinematic wise Mumm-Ra's a user of deception. It's perfect IC for him to attack from hiding and stay in constant motion in the air, blasting the ground out from underneath the Hulk, trying to use the other creatures and even the tribes of Pandora as a means to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dinsdale Piranha Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I may be underestimating Mumm-Ra. it's been many, many years since I've watched Thundercats. I had the impression at the time that he was a Skeletor type villain, but not as powerful as Skeletor. I could easily be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sithisson Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I may be underestimating Mumm-Ra. it's been many, many years since I've watched Thundercats. I had the impression at the time that he was a Skeletor type villain, but not as powerful as Skeletor. I could easily be wrong.In terms of those two Mumm-Ra IMO would win. Skeletor is pretty uber in magic himself but anything he's done usually has some sort of crystal or staff directly involved. Add in Evil-lyn, who while not as powerful but stays strictly in working with magic all the time, and that sort of lessens his rep as well. Don't get me wrong if they matched up the magic would be flying all over the place. However while Skeletor's magic comes from a lot of study, innate ability and his Staff, Mumm-Ra's in direct conduit with the Ancient Spirits of Evil.Now I don't know if he could take the Sorceress herself as she'd have some help from the Spirit of Greyskull within the Castle. Seeing as we know what sort of power that entails thanks to He-man and She-Ra it's possible the Ancient Spirits might not have enough juice to aid any attempt by Mumm-Ra in Eternia. He'd probably, well more then likely would, use Skeletor and his minions to do the dirty work/lead any of the Masters on a chase away so he could concentrate all of his thoughts on the Castle itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMPIRE Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 Match Final ResultsThe Hulk: 12Mumm-Ra the Ever-Living: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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