Choose wisely

[AVP vs The Terminator]

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Okay people. Read this clearly again: All there is to it for them is that their mere sole job is to protect your pathetic sorry ass. From the others bearing down on you to snuff you out.

 

Personality aside, they will do the damn job, and killing their ward goes against such.

 

While both would protect me to their dying breath... I'd wager Batman would be a whole lot more, shall we say, accommodating than lord Vader. No chance of me getting reached/killed either way, but Vader is a dick. Personalities would come into it to a certain extent in my opinion - naturally it wouldn't interfere with their primary goal of protecting me, but their methods of doing so, sure.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

Guys if you want to argue that someone won't protect you, you have to argue that some of these won't kill you.

 

Terminator won't(depending on version) because I'm not a target.

Predator won't, not armed.

Batman won't, one rule.

Wolverine won't, staying out of his way.

Hellboy won't, not a monster.

 

Now see, just disregard that and post according to the damn picture. Or at least if you insist on this line of thought, be consistent dammit.

 

You're in a bad mood.

 

The stips say one will protect you, the other eight will try to kill you. Since eight of them (any eight) will try to kill you it follows that they have some pressing reason that overrides their natural reluctance.

 

What this does not say is that their normal personalities are switched off. They might be, but we don't know. We can make an assumption one way or the other.

 

I choose to assume that their personalities are in force, so I have to postulate some 

 

Terminator, apparently, has been programmed to kill me. He's working at full efficiency.

Predator, apparently, is willing to forego his usual hunter's code. This may cause him to hesitate, slightly impairing his efficiency.

Batman, Hellboy, Robocop and Wolverine have some reason that overrides their moral reservations (maybe killing me is the only way to save someone they love) but they will frantically be trying to think of some other way to beat the game. Their efficiency will be significantly impaired.

Dredd probably believes I'm guilty of some capital offense. No impairment.

Marv will kill me without hesitation but may feel a otuch of regret later.

Vader will have no compunction about killing me.

 

The protector will try to protect me, but his personality has a bearing on how well he can do that.

The killers will try to kill me but their personalities will have a bearing on how effective they are.

 

If SirMethos chooses to clarify that normal morals/personalities are not in effect, I'll revise my thinking. Until then fie on your assumptions.

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

^ He summed it right the heck up. A simple question - STOP ANALYZING IT.

 

You want us to vote without thinking about it?

 

Fie I say!

[Guest thanosisawesome]

Also Nova, hasn't Wolverine fought something like 52,000 ninjas at the same time? Sure, they didn't have blaster rifles, but c'mon, these are stormtroopers. He would provide a good distraction, not to say that he can't sneak around extremely well.

 

Edit: I found the scans.

 

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[C.T.]

And in the time it would take Wolverine to slaughter all 327,144 potential obstacles in his way, little old me could be heading off the ship in a shuttle.

[C.T.]

I wasn't in a bad mood. Fie on your assumptions.

[Guest force_echo]

Ok. Batman and or Wolverine are on the Executor.

 

Their obstacles include:

11 plus miles of Destroyer to search to find their target.

38,000 ground troops.

Thousands of vehicles.

279,144 crew members.

10,000 droids.

Darth Vader.

 

Boy oh boy, they're gonna need their leet ninja skills. Not even Batman has enough batarangs for this if he gets caught. Which, given Vader's powerset...yeah.

Oh yeah, I forgot the part where Obi-Wan/Luke had to go through all of those defenses on the Death Star. Oh wait... They didn't. The Empire is notoriously incompetent, and Stormtroopers could only shoot me if I wasn't standing in front of their guns. Also, this whole "Darth Vader can bring in the Empire" stuff is moot. I would rather be protected by the Avengers (Wolverine) or even better, the Justice League (Batman). I think it should just be the person, by himself. Similarly, I think personalities matter, even if by the stips, whichever protector you choose is obligated to protect you.

 

The simple fact is that none of these combatants are capable of fighting off all of the others in a straight fight. That means that the person who's guarding you has to be competent enough to not let such a scenario happen.

 

Batman.

[C.T.]

Yeah that's true. They got through via the Force, which none of the others have and disguises... for Obi and Luke respectively. And the disguises only worked to a certain point(aren't you a little short for a storm trooper?), which is odd. How is she more familiar with the specs of the group than the group themselves but nevertheless...even as little more than cannon fodder, they will be buying time.

 

If such a scenario happens mind you.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

And in the time it would take Wolverine to slaughter all 327,144 potential obstacles in his way, little old me could be heading off the ship in a shuttle.

That was for the .1 percent chance they get caught.

[Guest force_echo]

Yeah that's true. They got through via the Force, which none of the others have and disguises... for Obi and Luke respectively. And the disguises only worked to a certain point(aren't you a little short for a storm trooper?), which is odd. How is she more familiar with the specs of the group than the group themselves but nevertheless...even as little more than cannon fodder, they will be buying time.

 

If such a scenario happens mind you.

Not likely. Luke put on a stormtrooper getup (that as you mentioned wasn't even that well done) and with no training or tactics was able to steal the Empire's most valuable prisoner. Like I said, unless you're a complete shit-for-brains, you're not going to be facing down anywhere near 38,000 ground troops and all of the other people you mentioned. Someone like Batman, who is a master of stealth and disguise and crap, would probably be able to make it to Vader fairly easily. Or at least incapacitate enough people that Vader will be curious and send him up to see for himself. Or he could blow up an engine and distract a large amount of troops or something.

[C.T.]

True enough. Even being bogged down by a tenth of that would probably buy enough time...assuming they get caught...and assuming they didn't bring in the League or Avengers...eh.

 

Yeah, maybe we should just stick to the people themselves instead of the vast allies they can bring to bear. Otherwise Batman/Wolverine would just roll over most of the others.

[Indolent]

I dunno, I thought we were going by the EU, not the actual movies - they're far more competent there.

 

And yes, I know AvP but while Vader would be a cockmongler - it's not like he's going to throw you into a holding cell with bare minimum essentials - you're clearly important and he'll accommodate adequately - just the interaction with him might be ball busting to the extreme heh. But I do think since Vader naturally has far more resources and means than Batman, kinda why I went with him.

 

Unless of course you're pulling in the JLA and the other superheroes, which honestly, is a step up above Vader's Resources - not to mention Batman's already got his own considerable amount of resources >.>

 

And not entirely Dinsdale - I should've said overanalyzing because from what the image says, the others have to kill you. That already goes against some of their personalities (i.e. Batman, unless someone wants to make the argument that this Batman reverts to the older personality where he actually killed for the sake o the greater good as well as the Predator, unless this is a Bad Blood.)

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

Fie fiddle dee dee!

[Indolent]

...

 

Dinsdale Piranha broked

[Guest force_echo]

 But I do think since Vader naturally has far more resources and means than Batman, kinda why I went with him.

He's also overconfident, and lets emotional thinking override tactical thinking.

[Indolent]

He's overconfident because he's got more advantages than friggin' Batman.

 

Not only that but he has no reason to get emotional here?

[Guest thanosisawesome]

He's overconfident because he's got more advantages than friggin' Batman.

 

Not only that but he has no reason to get emotional here?

 

In this situation, he does not. Batman would do a much better of formulating an overall defense strategy, and when prepped, could probably hide you from the entire team, and take them out if they found you.

[Indolent]

...Vader can easily do the same thing just as well _-_

 

I'm not saying he's better than Batman. I'm saying he has a higher likelihood of success in that respect.

[AVP vs The Terminator]

Not only that but he has no reason to get emotional here?

 

I'd be his bro within the hour.

[Indolent]

We all know he watches My Little Pony in that little meditation zone of his.

[C.T.]

[Guest thanosisawesome]

...Vader can easily do the same thing just as well _-_

 

I'm not saying he's better than Batman. I'm saying he has a higher likelihood of success in that respect.

 

What strategic feats does Vader have? Just wondering. And no, if Batman prepped and coordinated the people out to kill you, Vader would die, I might even say badly.

[Indolent]

...I thought you were aware of his capabilities. I guess I shouldn't assume based off the Avatar. >.>

 

Anyways he's consistently portrayed as making tactical and strategical judgement and calls throughout many mediums of Star War's fiction, as Anakin Skywalker and as Darth Vader - there's plenty of this shown in the Star Wars Clone Wars CGI series and certainly more so in the other mediums - I know this but I can't namely point out specifics - though I do know he planned the ambush at the Cloud City in one of the films.. The wookiepedia states he's a brilliant strategist as well (though it doesn't go into detail beyond this). Etc, etc.

 

And Batman has no reason to work with the others - If any would it'd be few, not all - so a moot point i would think.

[Guest thanosisawesome]

...I thought you were aware of his capabilities. I guess I shouldn't assume based off the Avatar. >.>

 

Anyways he's consistently portrayed as making tactical and strategical judgement and calls throughout many mediums of Star War's fiction, as Anakin Skywalker and as Darth Vader - there's plenty of this shown in the Star Wars Clone Wars CGI series and certainly more so in the other mediums - I know this but I can't namely point out specifics - though I do know he planned the ambush at the Cloud City in one of the films.. The wookiepedia states he's a brilliant strategist as well (though it doesn't go into detail beyond this). Etc, etc.

 

And Batman has no reason to work with the others - If any would it'd be few, not all - so a moot point i would think.

 

I actually do know a lot about Vader. Let's observe his brilliant tactical mind in Jedi: Purge. He storms into a conclave of 8 jedi. Just literally breaks the door down. He then threatens his opponents. What follows is a protracted fight scene in which Vader is about to be killed near the end, but is saved by stormtroopers. Instead of planning an assault, he stormed the conclave and nearly paid the price with his life. I don;t buy that strategic genius. The wiki may say he is, but until I see feats I call bullshit. EU Vader is a badass, no doubt. But he would suck at an escort mission. He would be over aggressive, leaving you open to attack. He wouldn't be able to  formulate as effective a plan as Batman. And a prepped Batman could take him out.  

[Guest Dinsdale Piranha]

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