UMPIRE Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 SEASON 4, ROUND 1 Scarlet Witch Slot: Bring In the Team's Big Gun Season Wins: 0 Season Losses: 0 Fantasy Team Page Read more about Scarlet Witch at Wikipedia Official Site: Marvel Entertainment Martian Manhunter Slot: Bring In the Team's Big Gun Season Wins: 0 Season Losses: 0 Fantasy Team Page Read more about Martian Manhunter at Wikipedia Official Site: DC Comics Battle Terrain Combat Terrain: Murderworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJRuss Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Martian Manhunter is cool but... Scarlet has been to Murderworld, so she has an idea of what to expect. Plus, her powers are strong enough that she could just tear open a portal and leave. I don't think Martian Manhunter measures up in the power department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergy_Berg Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Does Murderworld have any fire traps? Because if so MM is screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peypeypeypey Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Hard disagree on both counts. Manhunter's intangibility would make him invincible here to Murderworld. As for the fire, depending on when are where in the canon we are it's not an issue. Unless it's a massive amount of fire, he's going to get out just fine. And by "massive amount" I mean like a chemical is inside him that keeps him on fire for more than eight hours. Here Martian Manhunter is telepathically manipulating or defeating reality warpers. J'onn is definitely a much stronger telepath than, say, Professor X. Unless Wanda has some really strong telepathic defenses, I don't see how she can escape that. Even if she can, MM is massively stronger and probably faster, and he can phase through most anything she can throw at him. I don't see any way J'onn loses this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 This is difficult. Scarlet Witch in the comics is a real wild card. She makes things happen that just should not happen... sometimes at a global scale. I will wait and see if others bring an opinion to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergy_Berg Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 How resistant is Scarlet Witch to telepathy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJRuss Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bergy_Berg said: How resistant is Scarlet Witch to telepathy? I can't find much on her actual resistance to telepathy, but I would assume she has magic barriers or something. That said, nothing Martian Manhunter can't overcome. But that will only work against Manhunter. If he enters her mind, he will see how messed up she is. She has mental instability and he isn't going to be able to stay in her head long. If he does, he risks Scarlet Witch going off the deep end and removing Murderworld from existence or something. In a way, he's playing with fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peypeypeypey Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 minute ago, SSJRuss said: In a way, he's playing with fire. I get it. But I'm not convinced that he can't just shut her down before that point. Again, in my previous post, his telepathy is strong enough to subdue high-class reality warpers, and even the Spectre can't resist him entering his mind. I know it's not a perfect comparison, but MM can enter Raven's mind without setting her off, or her seemingly even noticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJRuss Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Peypeypeypey said: I get it. But I'm not convinced that he can't just shut her down before that point. Again, in my previous post, his telepathy is strong enough to subdue high-class reality warpers, and even the Spectre can't resist him entering his mind. I know it's not a perfect comparison, but MM can enter Raven's mind without setting her off, or her seemingly even noticing. That... is a crazy ass panel. Lol Seems to be circumstantial with MM doing that to reality warpers, though. We can't say for sure it will work on Scarlet Witch but I'm at least convinced he could. I don't think MM has what it takes to win, but it's closer than I initially thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peypeypeypey Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He could also just punch her real hard I think. He's competitively strong with Superman (although decidedly weaker, he can get into slugfests with him) and fast enough to keep up with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peypeypeypey Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, SSJRuss said: That... is a crazy ass panel. Lol Very disarming and eye-opening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macklemore Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Unless this is HOM Wanda (which it isn't), this isn't anything Martian Manhunter can't overcome. I'd go as far as to say this is an easy win for him, cause subjugating people through telepathy is kind of his deal and he'll probably end it at that, before the fight even gets juicy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJRuss Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Macklemore said: Unless this is HOM Wanda (which it isn't), this isn't anything Martian Manhunter can't overcome. I'd go as far as to say this is an easy win for him, cause subjugating people through telepathy is kind of his deal and he'll probably end it at that, before the fight even gets juicy. Why do you think this isn't HOM Wanda? Nothing stated otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macklemore Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, SSJRuss said: Why do you think this isn't HOM Wanda? Nothing stated otherwise. TOO. STRONG. Especially for this slot. At which point I'd vote for Martian Manhunter just cause some guy thought throwing HOM Wanda out here was a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSJRuss Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Macklemore said: TOO. STRONG. Especially for this slot. At which point I'd vote for Martian Manhunter just cause some guy thought throwing HOM Wanda out here was a good idea. That said, Wanda created that universe. And she's a Nexus Being much like Uatu is. She may not be HOM Wanda, but that doesn't mean she is incapable of using those powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macklemore Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, SSJRuss said: That said, Wanda created that universe. And she's a Nexus Being much like Uatu is. She may not be HOM Wanda, but that doesn't mean she is incapable of using those powers. Even then, she's susceptible to telekinesis like the one time that Red Skull possessed Charles Xavier's powers. And just like Peypey said, 2 hours ago, Peypeypeypey said: J'onn is definitely a much stronger telepath than, say, Professor X. He definitely at the very least has the stronger MORE CONSISTENT telepathic ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyChany Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I must admit what was considered too strong for this slot versus okay for this slot is a little confusing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macklemore Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, JohnnyChany said: I must admit what was considered too strong for this slot versus okay for this slot is a little confusing to me. I'm 100% with you on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 20 hours ago, JohnnyChany said: I must admit what was considered too strong for this slot versus okay for this slot is a little confusing to me. 20 hours ago, Macklemore said: I'm 100% with you on that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versam Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, Fox said: ^ Live footage from MurderWorld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMPIRE Posted September 29, 2020 Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 Match Final Results Scarlet Witch: 12Martian Manhunter: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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